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Giants Fix for 2024

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-nukkye (great player dgmw but there are issues surrounding his role in the team so it is better to just get rid of him imo. Such a shame that this is necessary to clear up role issues tho cuz hed be a valuable pickup for almost every other team imo)
+Tag (Highly underrated up-and-coming sentinel player. Was the best sentinel in EMEA Ascension by a mile in terms of ACS and fell just short of logaN and MAGNUM in terms of rating all while playing 1v5 on most games. An absolute monster of a player who will impress if given the opportunity)

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ROLES:

Tag: Killjoy/Cypher (Sentinel)
Cloud: Sova/Fade/Viper (Scan Initiator)
Fit1nho: Jett/Raze (Duelist)
hoody: Skye/KAYO/Breach/Viper (Flash Initiator)
rhyme: Omen/Astra/Brimstone (Controller + IGL)

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COMPS:

Lotus:
Killjoy (Tag)
Fade (Cloud)
Raze (Fit1nho)
Viper (hoody)
Astra (rhyme)

Pearl:
Killjoy (Tag)
Sova (Cloud)
Jett (Fit1nho)
KAY/O (hoody)
Astra (rhyme)

Fracture:
Killjoy (Tag)
Sova (Cloud)
Raze (Fit1nho)
Breach (hoody)
Brimstone (rhyme)

Ascent:
Killjoy (Tag)
Sova (Cloud)
Jett (Fit1nho)
KAY/O (hoody)
Omen (rhyme)

Haven:
Killjoy (Tag)
Sova (Cloud)
Jett (Fit1nho)
Breach (hoody)
Omen (rhyme)

Split:
Cypher (Tag)
Skye (Cloud)
Raze (Fit1nho)
Breach (hoody)
Astra (rhyme)

Bind:
Cypher (Tag)
Viper (Cloud)
Raze (Fit1nho)
Skye (hoody)
Brimstone (rhyme)

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Fixes for all other grouped teams coming soon!

#2
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I would rather Monster come back tbh if we're gonna bench nukkye

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Mortadelo [#2]

I would rather Monster come back tbh if we're gonna bench nukkye

thing is that MONSTEERR had a suuuper underwhelming ascension performance that put me off from adding him

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WinterZ20 [#3]

thing is that MONSTEERR had a suuuper underwhelming ascension performance that put me off from adding him

Fair but his regular season was pretty decent. Anyway you might think I'm drunk but what do you think of a Wolfen?

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Mortadelo [#4]

Fair but his regular season was pretty decent. Anyway you might think I'm drunk but what do you think of a Wolfen?

Anyway you might think I'm drunk but what do you think of a Wolfen?

I have been a fan of Wolfen since his CASE days so Im probs biased in my opinion of him lmao. I think he is an excellent player who had a shaky regular season but picked it up in LCQ. Excited to see him play in 2024

but his regular season was pretty decent.

True but u hv to consider that he was playing in a farmers league during that time. Ntm he was like 4th on his team statistically even during that time

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DSYRE TAG MY GOAT :3 🇮🇹

Hard vouch, damn I wish this would come true

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WinterZ20 [#5]

Anyway you might think I'm drunk but what do you think of a Wolfen?

I have been a fan of Wolfen since his CASE days so Im probs biased in my opinion of him lmao. I think he is an excellent player who had a shaky regular season but picked it up in LCQ. Excited to see him play in 2024

but his regular season was pretty decent.

True but u hv to consider that he was playing in a farmers league during that time. Ntm he was like 4th on his team statistically even during that time

Yes but I think he has been off role all season. That's why I ask here, would he be an option for this roster? To what point Tag, Monster and the other upcoming tier 2 sentinels are better than Wolfen on Killjoy Cypher?

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Mortadelo [#7]

Yes but I think he has been off role all season. That's why I ask here, would he be an option for this roster? To what point Tag, Monster and the other upcoming tier 2 sentinels are better than Wolfen on Killjoy Cypher?

would he be an option for this roster?

He'd be a decent option but I highly doubt KOI is letting him go after that LCQ performance he dropped so I didnt take him into much consideration

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DSYRE TAG MY GOAT :3 🇮🇹

Hard vouch, damn I wish this would come true

mans is so talented iswr

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WinterZ20 [#9]

mans is so talented iswr

That ascend game had me so hyped man

Hoping him and wackie get a chance they are Amazing players

https://clips.twitch.tv/SmilingCoweringPterodactylKappaRoss-orFtaI_Kbgl8E030

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WinterZ20 [#8]

would he be an option for this roster?

He'd be a decent option but I highly doubt KOI is letting him go after that LCQ performance he dropped so I didnt take him into much consideration

Oh 95% they are not keeping him. Quote from KOI owner is "heavy changes". I think that means 3 changes or more, but minimum of 2

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Ailed [#10]

That ascend game had me so hyped man

Hoping him and wackie get a chance they are Amazing players

https://clips.twitch.tv/SmilingCoweringPterodactylKappaRoss-orFtaI_Kbgl8E030

agreed

both are absolutely fucking incredible

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Mortadelo [#11]

Oh 95% they are not keeping him. Quote from KOI owner is "heavy changes". I think that means 3 changes or more, but minimum of 2

oh shiiiii i didnt know that

still I'm not convinced theyd kick him

they will probably lose sheydos, starxo, coaching staff, and maybe koldamenta if I had to predict what they will do

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WinterZ20 [#13]

oh shiiiii i didnt know that

still I'm not convinced theyd kick him

they will probably lose sheydos, starxo, coaching staff, and maybe koldamenta if I had to predict what they will do

Tbh I think Kolda is staying, just cause to what extent is it worth for KOI to get rid of Kolda and put someone else? Who? Does KOI win anything having Bonecold instead? Yes maybe Enzo but 1, he is gonna be hard to get, 2 I'm not completely sure KOI would sign a French. Ik it sounds weird but the rivalry is so big they would get a shit tone of hate if they replace Kolda with Enzo.

As of the others I would say starxo is probably out, and I wanna cope and think they keep both trexx and sheydos, (that's what I would do), so that does leave Wolfen out

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Mortadelo [#14]

Tbh I think Kolda is staying, just cause to what extent is it worth for KOI to get rid of Kolda and put someone else? Who? Does KOI win anything having Bonecold instead? Yes maybe Enzo but 1, he is gonna be hard to get, 2 I'm not completely sure KOI would sign a French. Ik it sounds weird but the rivalry is so big they would get a shit tone of hate if they replace Kolda with Enzo.

As of the others I would say starxo is probably out, and I wanna cope and think they keep both trexx and sheydos, (that's what I would do), so that does leave Wolfen out

for kolda I would say to remove him and take lowel if they want spanish representation

-starxo doesnt need an explanation we both agree on this

as for sheydos it makes more sense to remove him cuz he clashes roles with trexx whereas Wolfen has no such issue, leaving sheydos out and Wolfen in

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i think giants need another star, even if tag would be solid af this move doesn't move the needle imo

TAG to heretics is a move tho ngl

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WinterZ20 [#15]

for kolda I would say to remove him and take lowel if they want spanish representation

-starxo doesnt need an explanation we both agree on this

as for sheydos it makes more sense to remove him cuz he clashes roles with trexx whereas Wolfen has no such issue, leaving sheydos out and Wolfen in

Yes but lowel does not IGL, Unfake is TQ IGL, we need an IGL.

As for Sheydos, I think without starxo sheydos wouldn't clash with Trexx so much. I think both work perfectly fine

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cboomer [#16]

i think giants need another star, even if tag would be solid af this move doesn't move the needle imo

TAG to heretics is a move tho ngl

Benjy is staying tho

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cboomer [#16]

i think giants need another star, even if tag would be solid af this move doesn't move the needle imo

TAG to heretics is a move tho ngl

nah I disagree

Giants main issue imo is the fact that theyve got a roster composed almost entirely of flex players, creating a shit ton of role issues, which Tag fixes by being a sentinel main.

Ntm I also believe that Tag has potential to become a star sentinel in the future. He was playing absolutely breathtaking valorant during Ascension

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WinterZ20 [#19]

nah I disagree

Giants main issue imo is the fact that theyve got a roster composed almost entirely of flex players, creating a shit ton of role issues, which Tag fixes by being a sentinel main.

Ntm I also believe that Tag has potential to become a star sentinel in the future. He was playing absolutely breathtaking valorant during Ascension

I mean he might pan out into a star, but unless he does it doesnt make giants a contender, if he turns into alfa then sure ill eat my words

I do agree tag is better at sentinel than nukkye tho but it could just be the same story next year

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Mortadelo [#18]

Benjy is staying tho

benjy just started if he's serious about heretics he can learn a new role, i would just build the team and have mold benjyfishy into whatever heretics coaching needs him to be

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Mortadelo [#17]

Yes but lowel does not IGL, Unfake is TQ IGL, we need an IGL.

As for Sheydos, I think without starxo sheydos wouldn't clash with Trexx so much. I think both work perfectly fine

Nah im p sure he was IGLing for TH at one point back in the day. Even if he cant anymore for some reason they could always take UNFAKE along with him as an IGL. Come to think of it this would actually be perfect for TH as it brings more role stability and fragging power.

As for sheydos both him and trexx main flash initiator for the most part so there'd still be role issues if they kept both. Not saying that there isnt a world where keeping both works, just that it would be less awkward if they dropped one of the two which, to me, makes more sense than kicking Wolfen

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WinterZ20 [#22]

Nah im p sure he was IGLing for TH at one point back in the day. Even if he cant anymore for some reason they could always take UNFAKE along with him as an IGL. Come to think of it this would actually be perfect for TH as it brings more role stability and fragging power.

As for sheydos both him and trexx main flash initiator for the most part so there'd still be role issues if they kept both. Not saying that there isnt a world where keeping both works, just that it would be less awkward if they dropped one of the two which, to me, makes more sense than kicking Wolfen

Yes, Unfake is one of the options I really like for upcoming IGL, that mf is cracked af. And yeah probably Lowel has good experience and is a solid option not to make it 5 rookies. It’s a big bet tho

You keeping Wolfen as a sentinel tho right? He can’t be the Jett, he is decent don’t get me wrong, but it is limiting yourself, his ceiling is not high enough to win it all

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cboomer [#21]

benjy just started if he's serious about heretics he can learn a new role, i would just build the team and have mold benjyfishy into whatever heretics coaching needs him to be

Nah but then there are better options than Tag if we are adding all other roles. Plus again, there is a maximum of rookies you should take

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WinterZ20 [#22]

Nah im p sure he was IGLing for TH at one point back in the day. Even if he cant anymore for some reason they could always take UNFAKE along with him as an IGL. Come to think of it this would actually be perfect for TH as it brings more role stability and fragging power.

As for sheydos both him and trexx main flash initiator for the most part so there'd still be role issues if they kept both. Not saying that there isnt a world where keeping both works, just that it would be less awkward if they dropped one of the two which, to me, makes more sense than kicking Wolfen

Also let’s wait because if I’m NAVI or TL I’m making changes and not precisely just 1. And if that happens, they either swap players which would be kinda weird or Giants/ KOI/ VIT/ TH have to pick up the pieces and idk about you but I feel like KOI and VIT would be the first options right? Giants maybe, TH I doubt

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Mortadelo [#23]

Yes, Unfake is one of the options I really like for upcoming IGL, that mf is cracked af. And yeah probably Lowel has good experience and is a solid option not to make it 5 rookies. It’s a big bet tho

You keeping Wolfen as a sentinel tho right? He can’t be the Jett, he is decent don’t get me wrong, but it is limiting yourself, his ceiling is not high enough to win it all

You keeping Wolfen as a sentinel tho right?

I'd keep his roles as is if I were KOI mgmt. Sentinel-Jett hybrid and trexx picks up the raze

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WinterZ20 [#26]

You keeping Wolfen as a sentinel tho right?

I'd keep his roles as is if I were KOI mgmt. Sentinel-Jett hybrid and trexx picks up the raze

I don't buy him as Jett, he is fine of sentinel

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Expected from a liquid flair.. nukkye??? lost it???

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Valuenjoyer [#28]

Expected from a liquid flair.. nukkye??? lost it???

read further into my reasoning

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