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PawanSapkota

is it rarer to get all correct or all wrong?

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PawanSapkota
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Like i was looking at the eu pickems and only one person has all wrong rn

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JustEnjoying
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yea kind of.

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drabr420
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all wrong even if u pick the worse team for every pick em 1 upset is bound to happen

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PawanSapkota [#2]

Like i was looking at the eu pickems and only one person has all wrong rn

wait what LOL

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drabr420 [#4]

all wrong even if u pick the worse team for every pick em 1 upset is bound to happen

i will test this for next big event in any region

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JustEnjoying
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drabr420 [#6]

i will test this for next big event in any region

which region?

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PawanSapkota
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JustEnjoying [#7]

which region?

he said any region like what????

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HaSanity
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i think same probability. someone can maybe prove it

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JustEnjoying
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PawanSapkota [#8]

he said any region like what????

nah nah I was asking which region is he from I don't know my flags sorry

Edit: Nvrmind user profile tells it mb

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JustEnjoying [#10]

nah nah I was asking which region is he from I don't know my flags sorry

Edit: Nvrmind user profile tells it mb

mexico so NA

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HaSanity [#11]

mexico so NA

yes, thanks!

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drabr420
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HaSanity [#11]

mexico so NA

yes! I was born in mexico but currently live in cali

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ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8
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I think it's mathematically equivalent to get all wrong as all right(correct me if I'm wrong). So assuming you were going to get them all perfectly, you could just swap the teams, that you were going to select and you've got your perfectly wrong pick'em. There seems no conditional reason for as to why that would not be the case.

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drabr420 [#13]

yes! I was born in mexico but currently live in cali

Nice!

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PawanSapkota
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ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8 [#14]

I think it's mathematically equivalent to get all wrong as all right(correct me if I'm wrong). So assuming you were going to get them all perfectly, you could just swap the teams, that you were going to select and you've got your perfectly wrong pick'em. There seems no conditional reason for as to why that would not be the case.

i think your right, to figure out the probability i think it would be the same as a coin flip(because there are only 2 outcomes per match, team A wins or team B wins)

in total there are 14 matches that happen if you get all right predictions that's is the same as getting 14 straight heads, and if you get all wrong its like getting 14 straight tails when flipping a coin. So the probability should the same

Let me know if I'm wrong

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PawanSapkota [#16]

i think your right, to figure out the probability i think it would be the same as a coin flip(because there are only 2 outcomes per match, team A wins or team B wins)

in total there are 14 matches that happen if you get all right predictions that's is the same as getting 14 straight heads, and if you get all wrong its like getting 14 straight tails when flipping a coin. So the probability should the same

Let me know if I'm wrong

That's theoretical, there's thinking, rough team assessment, stuff like that too. Practical kinda proves that all right is more common, ever so slightly

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ilikerubikscubes [#17]

That's theoretical, there's thinking, rough team assessment, stuff like that too. Practical kinda proves that all right is more common, ever so slightly

yea makes sense, the probability becomes a bit easier to guess as we have past knowledge to make assumptions about

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ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8
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ilikerubikscubes [#17]

That's theoretical, there's thinking, rough team assessment, stuff like that too. Practical kinda proves that all right is more common, ever so slightly

Yeah, people will in general tend to pick for the teams, that are based on history and other factors more likely to be at the top of the placement. So when we observe the result distribution of the bracket, it's going to be skewed to the top, more than if you were picking by random chance.

I don't know if that's the case with these VLR pickems though, because they use a point scoring system where there's a varying amount of points given for different matches. I wish they gave just the wins so we could compare the distribution to a random one.

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ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8 [#19]

Yeah, people will in general tend to pick for the teams, that are based on history and other factors more likely to be at the top of the placement. So when we observe the result distribution of the bracket, it's going to be skewed to the top, more than if you were picking by random chance.

I don't know if that's the case with these VLR pickems though, because they use a point scoring system where there's a varying amount of points given for different matches. I wish they gave just the wins so we could compare the distribution to a random one.

I think thespike does equal points for all matches. Can't remember, site sucks

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ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8
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ilikerubikscubes [#20]

I think thespike does equal points for all matches. Can't remember, site sucks

Nope, it doesn't seem to have equal point distribution. It's fairly ambiguous as to how it all works. I could adjust for them, but I can't really be arsed to do so.

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