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jawn [#2]why are we acting like TenZ doesn't have multiple records under his belt and a trophy
I hope he keeps competing next year
jawn [#2]why are we acting like TenZ doesn't have multiple records under his belt and a trophy
I mean, he dominated during an era where valorant was simpler and teams were not really developed yet. Like, it was only starting from last year and the end of 2021 where we began seeing a more developed scene and household teams.
iriXium19 [#5]the hype Tenz has always had to be the best aimer is what something is
he hasn't lost that notoriety, mechanically he's still elite (not on op tho)
Zaynio [#6]I mean, he dominated during an era where valorant was simpler and teams were not really developed yet. Like, it was only starting from last year and the end of 2021 where we began seeing a more developed scene and household teams.
this narrative is kinda tiresome, prime sova/astra/viper/jett/skye/breach, pre-econ patch, the game had it's own difficulties back then
jawn [#8]this narrative is kinda tiresome, prime sova/astra/viper/jett/skye/breach, pre-econ patch, the game had it's own difficulties back then
It had its own difficulties back then for sure, but it was still much simpler. Its like, Wardell became obsolete, not only because the operator got nerfed, but comps were starting to become adjusted to have a chance against operator plays. The scene now has household teams and cores because its more developed. Also, its been known that sentinels didn't practice very often and were winning because Sick and TenZ had insane mechanics.
Also, this was an era where you could still run Reyna and it wouldn't be that troll?
Zaynio [#10]It had its own difficulties back then for sure, but it was still much simpler. Its like, Wardell became obsolete, not only because the operator got nerfed, but comps were starting to become adjusted to have a chance against operator plays. The scene now has household teams and cores because its more developed. Also, its been known that sentinels didn't practice very often and were winning because Sick and TenZ had insane mechanics.
Also, this was an era where you could still run Reyna and it wouldn't be that troll?
holy regurgitated /rvalorantcompetitive narratives, straight waffling
jawn [#11]holy regurgitated /rvalorantcompetitive narratives, straight waffling
No, this is just my observations from watching Ignition series and onwards. It just isn't the same. TenZ has insane mechanics but absolutely wouldn't thrive the same way prominent duelists are now. He even admitted himself right now that he is more of an initiator player.
Zaynio [#13]No, this is just my observations from watching Ignition series and onwards. It just isn't the same. TenZ has insane mechanics but absolutely wouldn't thrive the same way prominent duelists are now. He even admitted himself right now that he is more of an initiator player.
he could, the circumstances are just not in his favor like in reykjavik, the game didn't change at all from the time he won to the time he got eliminated in champs 2021, SEN's honeymoon just ended and others figured out how to win against them, the players didn't become magically better
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jawn [#16]he could, the circumstances are just not in his favor like in reykjavik, the game didn't change at all from the time he won to the time he got eliminated in champs 2021, SEN's honeymoon just ended and others figured out how to win against them, the players didn't become magically better
I mean, players are much better now, no? And from Reykjavik to champs, a lot had changed. Reykjavik was a post-plant meta and that disappeared right after masters 2 (The reason why v1 dominated during qualifiers). Afterwards, Gambit started to lead the meta.
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Zaynio [#21]I mean, players are much better now, no? And from Reykjavik to champs, a lot had changed. Reykjavik was a post-plant meta and that disappeared right after masters 2 (The reason why v1 dominated during qualifiers). Afterwards, Gambit started to lead the meta.
ur a moron I fear, in 2 years the game will look much harder than it is now again, are you going to disqualify fnatics trophies?
Zaynio [#21]I mean, players are much better now, no? And from Reykjavik to champs, a lot had changed. Reykjavik was a post-plant meta and that disappeared right after masters 2 (The reason why v1 dominated during qualifiers). Afterwards, Gambit started to lead the meta.
if the game was so much easier back then how come derke,scream sacy,saadhak doesn't have the same stats as tenz?
cboomer [#23]ur a moron I fear, in 2 years the game will look much harder than it is now again, are you going to disqualify fnatics trophies?
I didnt discount 2022 at all, why would I suddenly discount 2023 in two years? There have been double the amount of agents since the game's release. It doesnt take much math to understand that a game becomes more complicated with more agents involved, but diminishing returns will eventually kick in.
And, why would I discount FNC's run? They have looked so dominant the entire year and ahead of everyone else.
RGS_OnToP [#24]if the game was so much easier back then how come derke,scream sacy,saadhak doesn't have the same stats as tenz?
Sacy and saddhak don't even play the same roles as TenZ. Derke had more mvps that tournament and their team was just outclassed in firepower against sentinels. And scream? He still doesn't really look that great despite his mechanics.
Zaynio [#26]Sacy and saddhak don't even play the same roles as TenZ. Derke had more mvps that tournament and their team was just outclassed in firepower against sentinels. And scream? He still doesn't really look that great despite his mechanics.
right more MVP lol derke wasnt even top 10 you fool
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/353/valorant-champions-tour-stage-2-masters-reykjav-k
Tenz has the tournament MVP
RGS_OnToP [#27]right more MVP lol derke wasnt even top 10 you fool
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/353/valorant-champions-tour-stage-2-masters-reykjav-k
Tenz has the tournament MVP
tf does stats have anything to do with the mvp's awarded? He had like 3 mvps or something
Zaynio [#25]I didnt discount 2022 at all, why would I suddenly discount 2023 in two years? There have been double the amount of agents since the game's release. It doesnt take much math to understand that a game becomes more complicated with more agents involved, but diminishing returns will eventually kick in.
And, why would I discount FNC's run? They have looked so dominant the entire year and ahead of everyone else.
nah, its a 3 year old esport scene, the exponential growth is gonna be there for a while, champs 2023 teams would melt champs 22 teams
same thing next year and so on
everyone plays in the current moment, thats all you can measure trying to say it was an easier game back then when tenz played the same game as everyone else is just disingenuous, because in however many years I wouldnt look back on 2022 or 2023 players and say they had it easy no matter how hard the game gets
this argument works in football and basketball because the dinosaur age guys had way worse medicine, training and there was no actual footage just stats that could be easily doctored, in valorant theres no skewing of what tenz did its all recorded
Zaynio [#28]tf does stats have anything to do with the mvp's awarded? He had like 3 mvps or something
listen dude if you have bad stats you are not an MVP
there's a reason why riot got rid of this day 1-day poor man mvp system
Tenz has the best stats of the whole tournament which means he played well every day
So how did derke get 3x the poor man MVP? over Him ?
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