Why do you think Fnatic lost?

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EntryKJ

I am looking for specific mistakes in their gameplay, and what Loud did well.

I felt the following:

Ascent:

did not break sova recons fast enough in B main (cauaunzin was getting so much value because of this)
played 3 consecutive attack rounds extremely slow and lost them (even saved a 3v3 or something to let Loud get 12), those rounds looked super weird too

Lotus:

Loud was well prepared, while Fnatic's ideas looked stale (same as usual).
Fnatic also seemed to lose their confidence after the first few rounds.
Alfajer's OP was not making any impact.

Edit:
The starts of both maps were heavily in Loud's favor (4-0, 6-0). Loud must have been really well-prepped to do that. Fnatic losing bonuses is a concern.

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Amazing anti-strats and calling from Saadhak

Less and aspas show

FNATIC looking pretty uncoordinated and off in some rounds

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EntryKJ

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Can you list some rounds where Saadhak called well?
The Judge buy on Ascent was pretty good from him.
Yeah, Fnatic looked pretty bad in some rounds.

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Fnatic did their best Zeta impression

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the orb to hide everyone A long from fnatic util is one example i remember

gotta look back at the game tho

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EntryKJ

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Yeah that was good.

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Loud better

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EntryKJ

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Yeah, I figured that. Anything specific?

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PandaZ

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Fnatic's Lotus comp has been used for a while so there's a lot of vod on their strats

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EntryKJ

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Yeah, I actually feel they should have banned Ascent first and picked Bind first. Loud would have banned Lotus for them. We might have seen

Haven/Pearl, Bind, Split/Pearl

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Pondy

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Pearl is Fnatic's permaban.

I don't actually know why. They lost on it twice against 100T and decided it wasn't for them? Maybe Fnatic doesn't like Harbour Viper.

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PandaZ

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I remember boaster saying that they ban pearl because they dont like to play it cuz the map is bad

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EntryKJ

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yeah he did say that

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Pondy

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I'm waiting for grand finals when Fnatic pulls out their patented Pearl tech that they're reserving for a lower bracket run.

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EntryKJ

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but at least there's less vods of it

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Pondy

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Bro the 'they can't know what we're doing if we don't what we're doing' only work for Paper Rex

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Pondy

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They got antistratted into next week and Boaster absolutely was not ready for this kind of resistance.

Also Egg curse

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Emea bad kkkkkkkk

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In all seriousness, im not smart enough for this

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Breloof

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None of us are. We're all just wafflers. That being said:

FNC OVERRATED 😂 EMEA WASHED 😂 ZERO TEAM REGION 😂 BOTSTER ONLY GETTING KILLS WITH ODIN 😂

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LyCan52

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https://www.vlr.gg/259031/betting-all-in

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LimiNaL

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LMAO ITS THE SAME GUY

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semicute_eboy

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all 5 fnc players washed up , they should go into content creation and fnc should import furia csgo roster

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EntryKJ

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sad

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The Lotus pick was obvious

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deadpark

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champions pressure hits different

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Fnatic isnt all that good with strats.. Boaster is the weaklink - he likes to act as if he has insane strats but its just Alfa Leo Derke winning duels and Chronicle helping them with util. Saadhak and LOUD have exposed us by playing with the players minds, not peeking them and then peeking when not expected. Its just masterclass from Brazil. Once this match;s VOD is studied by all the teams, its wraps for Fnatic (atleast Boaster)

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Chaadhak is a better igl, boaster was always with scared face and chaadhak smiling

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they lost 26 rounds

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Holistical_Nil

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you needa learn more valorant if these are the reasons you come up with

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EntryKJ

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I am asking you for more mistakes. Please let me know. Nobody really gave any specific mistakes in the comments, except for obvious general ones like 'Loud better' and 'Saadhak better IGL and calls'.

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havent vod reviewed but from the first time watch
it has to do a lot with LOUD hard vod reviewing fnatic
a lot of Loud's setplays were plays that fnatic used to do, but loud made em better
and because LOUD took a lot from fnatic they already had a good idea of what strengths and weakness fnatic have
i dont wanna keep typign so il just say

loud studied fnatic more than fnatic studied loud
loud won the map veto, pretty sure any other map fnatic wouldve won
fnatic complacent? idk we didnt really see anything new from them (similar to point 1 but moreso fnatic didnt have anything new cooked up)
this is a copout but like whenn im looking at leo/Chronicle they dont look like themselves
leo is often in positions where you wouldnt normally see him be, maybe this has to do with ascent and ascent being a weaker map for fnatic but it just wasnt like leo to be dying first or being ccaught out (what makes fnatic so unbeatable are these 2 players, i hate when people say alfa cuz they dont see the impact the rest of the team has)
chronicle mental was awful second map, hes doing better so hes tryna go for a kill or an impactful play but he messes up when he should just play time or back off
boaster played the best tbh i think his igling was fine the rest of the team was just disappointing.

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EntryKJ

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Yes, I agree with all your points.

Loud was clearly more well-prepared and deserved to win. The map veto was looking bad for Fnatic once Ascent was map 1. Bind might have been better than Lotus for Fnatic as well, but that's hindsight.
I do find Leo and Chronicle in weird spots more often recently (Alfa too). It's hard to describe, but it was showing up against other teams too, but it was much more today, and Loud was able to take advantage of it too. Against other teams, they win those fights, but Loud was not like the other teams.

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yaiima0

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cuz Saadhaak doesnt rely on his teammates to carry him like boaster.

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rhixcal

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very simple. fnatic lost because loud was pretending to suck at tokyo so they could get the jump on them. loud are dishonorable opponents

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Astar

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fnatic didnt get a real test in the group so they lost their momentum

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b0tster

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SamBR

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pistols

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EntryKJ

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True, Loud really diffed Fnatic hard in the pistols. Loud also had really good starts on both maps (4-0, 6-0). Winning pistol, round 2, and bonus.

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Shoot their heads. Don't respect them. treat them like silvers.