Thats why he's the goat duelist (basically shooting guard position of valorant) and bald. LeBronze3 could never
thenutoriousPRO [#4]hes also a messi fan
(messi ronaldo theory)
mj vs lebron debate has wiggle room, but messi obliterates and nuts all over ronaldo
reycac [#8]mj never won a playoff series without scottie pippen but ok
his teams were rlly rlly bad before pippen, pippen is also overrated, he's no better than paul george, and also gets worse in the playoffs.
calabasa [#6]mj vs lebron debate has wiggle room, but messi obliterates and nuts all over ronaldo
bro lebron mj isnt even a debate, ive never met anyone who thinks lebron is better lmao
thenutoriousPRO [#11]bro lebron mj isnt even a debate, ive never met anyone who thinks lebron is better lmao
thats cuz ur from canada. i think mjs the goat, but lebron is a way better passer, not a much worse scorer, better defender at his peak (can guard 1-5), better 3pt shooter, and is better at carrying shitty teams. he is also much stronger than Jordan
reycac [#8]mj never won a playoff series without scottie pippen but ok
he also didn't get carried by pippen once he joined
calabasa [#10]his teams were rlly rlly bad before pippen, pippen is also overrated, he's no better than paul george, and also gets worse in the playoffs.
lebron had worse teams and still made finals,if mj was actually the goat he could carry
calabasa [#12]thats cuz ur from canada. i think mjs the goat, but lebron is a way better passer, not a much worse scorer, better defender at his peak (can guard 1-5), better 3pt shooter, and is better at carrying shitty teams. he is also much stronger than Jordan
People consider MJ the goat because of his mental
reycac [#14]lebron had worse teams and still made finals,if mj was actually the goat he could carry
lebron is better at carrying bad teams yeah cuz the offense runs through him and hes a top 10 passer oat. but that doesn't really matter as much for winning championships cuz u need a good team anyway.
the teams which lebron won championships were really really good (dwade + bosh, kevin love + kyrie, AD). AD and Dwade are better teammates than MJ ever had.
MJ also had a really good supporting cast (Pippen, Rodman, Derek Fisher) but they were mainly very good defensively while MJ carried like 40% of the offense
yawnster [#16]People consider MJ the goat because of his mental
hes the GOAT bc he's the best scorer of all time, top 10 playmaker oat, very good defender, and won 6/6 finals and finals mvps. Lebron may be a better player, but MJ has a perfect resume. He's also psychotic and super charismatic and his shoes are dope af
calabasa [#10]his teams were rlly rlly bad before pippen, pippen is also overrated, he's no better than paul george, and also gets worse in the playoffs.
Jordan fans love talking down on pippen
Bulls without mj won 55 games. Name any superstar who's team has won that much without him.
Not to mention the competition he faced in the finals
calabasa [#10]his teams were rlly rlly bad before pippen, pippen is also overrated, he's no better than paul george, and also gets worse in the playoffs.
pippen is the best wing defender of all time and was still able to lead the bulls to over 50 wins when mj was out
tls127 [#19]Jordan fans love talking down on pippen
Bulls without mj won 55 games. Name any superstar who's team has won that much without him.
Not to mention the competition he faced in the finals
Pippen IS really good. I think he's equal to Paul George and I think Paul George solo could lead a team to 55 wins. W few exceptions, every team needs at least another all-star or two to win the championship. Major exceptions are Hakeem and Dirk.
In Lebron's championship runs, he had Dwade + Chris Bosh, Kyrie and Kevin Love, and AD. I would consider that equal or better than having Pippen plus Jordan's other supporting cast.