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Wronghand

Basically title. Do of it what you wish.

Lock//in

Records:

AM: 13-10
NA: 6-4

EMEA: 12-9
Fnatic: 5-0

Pacific: 6-10

China: 0-2

Average Placement

AM: 17
EMEA: 19.7
Pacifc: 25.2
China: 32

Masters

Records:

AM: 9-8
NA: 9-6

EMEA: 6-6
Fnatic: 4-0

Pacific: 6-7

China: 4-4

Average Placement

AM: 4.7
EMEA: 7.25
Pacifc: 7
China: 9

It is up to your discretion of whether or not to count Navi in the average placement. Without Navi, it's a 5.3 for EMEA. But, if you get 2 free teams in top 8 AND the winning team, I'd argue that the 4th squad you sent for "being the best region" should be counted.

Total 2023:

AM: 22-18
EMEA: 18-15
Pacific: 12-17
China: 4-6
NA: 15-10

EMEA vs AM: 9-10
EMEA vs NA: 5-8

NA is (all time) 18-16 against EMEA teams.

Fun Fact: Fnatic have faced NA 5/9 (100T, NRG, Sen, EGx2) games, and AM 7/9 games (Furia, Loud). Other two was Navi and PRX.
There have been 19 AM vs EMEA games.

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Art1st

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allat just to lose all 3 events this year 🤣

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Wronghand

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Why are we fighting when Fnatic owns both of our regions.

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Fraudvi going home early again 🗿

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yaiima0

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I read allat

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jawn

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give fnatic their own region at this point

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sentinelmain377

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FNC 4-0 in TOKYO

dum

also you cant be talking about average placement when AM had fewer teams in tokyo and EMEA had 4 (obv the emea teams will be spread out in placements and some will place lower)

fnc: 1st
eg: 2nd
prx: 3rd
nrg: 4th
tl: 5th
edg: 6th (lost to TL in h2h)
drx: 7th
loud: 8th
t1: 9th
fut: 10th
navi: 11th
ase: 12th

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Wronghand

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I realized it at the same time as you, it's a lot of numbers. They blend into each other.

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sentinelmain377

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i edited my message

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Wronghand

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About the second question, it illustrates the idea that just because a region has the best team doesn't mean they have the best teams. I don't think that, because you house the champion, you deserve to send more representation that lowers the bar of competition. They have the lowest average placement of all regions despite having a free top 8 position and the 1st place team. If they are the "better region" they should show it as a region not as a region with Fnatic.

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sentinelmain377

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but it ruins the average placement
u should prolly do 3 teams each region

cuz we are not counting the 4th team from americas or pac(could be = to 4th placed emea team, but are not counted in average placement).

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Wronghand

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They have a 5.3 without Navi. Still worse than AM. And again, despite the free top 8 and the winning team.

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sentinelmain377

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5.3 > 7.25

1 + 5 + 10 = FNC + TL + FUT = 16/3 = 5.333333333333333...

there is no way we be saying that PAC has better placement in tokyo than EMEA

FNC 1st | PRX 3rd
TL 5th-6th | DRX 7th-8th
FUT 9th-10th | T1 9th-10th

gotta count the top 3 teams from each region
or else count Cloud9 from americas and GENG from pac

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I don't think that, because you house the champion, you deserve to send more representation that lowers the bar of competition.

This! Not sure who came up with the idea to do this, but it's quite a dumb and lazy approach to filling an extra slot needed for the tournaments. Regions should have coefficients, based on which the slots amount for tournaments should be decided on.

International record stat dump 2023

FNC 4-0 in TOKYO

also you cant be talking about average placement when AM had fewer teams in tokyo and EMEA had 4 (obv the emea teams will be spread out in placements and some will place lower)

there is no way we be saying that PAC has better placement in tokyo than EMEA