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Fl1pz situation clarification ?

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#1
Ullyr

So did fl1pz instigate everything and gas light ppl to take his side or what ? I saw someone said he's been in like a couple racist controversy lately too.

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Art1st
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who cares neither are good

#3
INDIAN_DETECTOR
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Nah he didn't gaslight, it just turned to racism, Tenten just mispoke

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Ullyr
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So both were pretty much wrong and racist but tenten did more ?

#5
INDIAN_DETECTOR
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only tenten is racist this time?

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Ullyr
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Okay I was confused cause a post earlier.

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omoshiroioshirin
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bro if indian/indonesian player said "f**n japan" "you wash ur @ss with bidet, hiroshima, nagasaki", to a JP player, the next day, it would be disastrous. But then people will not justify that rasism.

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JiangLi
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imo if a player is making stereotypical comments he deserves to be mocked and gaslighted so flipz did the right thing

Also the controversy was like 2 yrs ago tho. He nd SkRossi had some exchanges
I dont know how he is like now so a punishment for smth he did long ago wouldn't be fair

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bobkiller
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no he didn’t do the right thing

the right thing is to mute and move on and not escalate the situation

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JiangLi
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how so? if he muted then prolly the comments he typed in all chat would hv js fly by like another day. He made fun of him nd the situation got bigger and bcuz of that he got an appropriate punishment

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bobkiller
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no he got the content he needed

no need to fight back because it’s just gonna make both people look bad

just mute

you even admit that he escalated the situation and then tenten said racist shit

no need to get someone fired

if fl1pz muted, tenten wouldn’t have gotten fired

#20
JiangLi
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what content he needs lmao. Every1 alr know him in SEA
nd a racist got an appropriate punishment, why u seem unhappy. Some things shouldnt js be ignored

#22
bobkiller
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listen as much as I hate racist people

i still feel bad for tenten

his career is probably ruined, he got fired and no org is gonna pick him up after this

if fl1pz didn’t escalate the situation, fl1pz could have made tenten look like a clown because tenten was already saying random shit before the racist comment, without getting anyone’s career ruined

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JiangLi
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idk if his career is ruined or not (probably isnt) but i dont feel bad for those type of people at all. The heated exchange alr started a few rounds ago bw them
Also fl1p actually went quite for a few rounds but TenTen still type in all chat to him

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that’s what I meant, tenten was already looking like a clown, typing to himself in chat

but after that there’s no need to interact with him anymore. Fl1pz was staying quiet and he could have chosen to just continue staying quiet or muted him with the Mute Button in game

I mean if you don’t feel bad for people losing their jobs you clearly haven’t seen what real society is like

I agree that tenten’s comments were wrong, but fl1pz handled the situation horribly and now tenten’s career is probably ruined - the drama is way too big to ignore for future orgs (no thanks to m1mosa the piece of shit)

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pandoradox
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so he shouldve turned a blind eye to a racist so that we dont feel bad for a racist getting fired? If he cared so much for his career, maybe he should have basic human decency and not be racist.

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  1. tenten only got “racist” after fl1pz talked shit back
    so fl1pz could have not escalated the situation

  2. it’s not “turning a blind eye” if you prevent it from happening in the first place

  3. tenten also was retaliating to what fl1pz told him - 1)he was the one who started being toxic if you watch the clip 2) he told tenten to “go talk to your anime”

  4. honestly I don’t get why tenten is being called a racist - the comment “go wipe your poop with your hands” is offensive, but doesn’t call out any races

  5. and yes I feel bad for a “racist” who lost his job because a toxic streamer with an ego could not bring himself to shut up and mute another toxic teammate.

on a side note, tenten was understandably tilted, he’s literally carrying the team on his back and his botfrag Reyna is trying to put the blame on him

not saying that what tenten said was right, but fl1pz definitely has some fault here

#43
JiangLi
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I mean thats how fl1p is. Not just fl1p but obviously many ranked players will choose to talk shit back if they are said anything bad. Surely you dont expect every1 to stay quiet/mute?
Also idc bout mimosa too but is he the only Indian whos angry? If yes then yea your points are valid but he made comments to a group of people.
This is still nothing, imagine what couldve happened if it was a famous Chinese pro for example bcuz they dont stay quiet either
nd yes thx for pointing out bcuz I am a 40yr living off my parents money

#46
bobkiller
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yes it’s what a lot of players WOULD do, but it’s not what people SHOULD do

also your point is valid for tenten too, I know for sure that alot of people would also say bad stuff in his position too

that’s why both sides are at fault here

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DrudaL
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if u watch the stream he alr tried to be silent, but after some round tenten start the shit talk

#23
bobkiller
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MUTE THE GUY IN GAME

THE FUNCTION EXISTS FOR A REASON

#45
Ronintai
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say that to tenten, fl1pz is silent and does nothing then out of nowhere tenten says "what do u want?"

#48
bobkiller
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and that’s where tenten is at fault

but fl1pz should mute him after that

tenten already looks like a clown

#7
sleeek
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fl1pz was just being toxic as usual, and he lives rent free in tenten's head

#8
DrudaL
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he's not gas light anything tho, he just common SEA ranked toxic player, but this time tenten being racist and mimosa tweet blow up
he still can see his tweet when arguing with tenten

tldr: flip toxic, tenten racist

#10
ItsMeDio
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Fl1p is toxic but not racist I think

#11
hanafuuji
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they already beef for a couple of times since the incident, so Fl1pz is definitely aware of tenten
fl1pz was indeed the one who insult him first, saying shit like "go talk to ur anime" and "u should talk to gojo satoru", but he attack him because he's a "weeb" from his twitter profile picture, so it's not racial whatsoever
tenten just took it too far, even if you look at the clip you can see that tenten is tilting

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Ullyr
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OK I see

#13
jarxhavc
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okay now i'm mad that he's against a weeb like me

#14
PokerFace
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The one who gaslight and instigate is mimosa, and you know what he always does that, if you see another drama related to indian mimosa will instigate it to another level

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Pogtestic
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Bro creaming everytime anything related to indian drama in international scene gets mentioned

#50
Closer
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who even is this mimosa guy

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simurgh
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Recently he has not been caught in any controversies and now seems like a chill dude. So I don't think you should judge him solely on his past behavior. But one thing is for sure he is toxic. However this is def not fl1pz's fault, this is just his regular day in ranked, TenTen just gets too emotional and take it too far.

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Coldzera
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Fl1pz was just toxic in this situation but not denying that he's racist too and ain't no Indian is getting offended by seeing that wiping poop shit like come on its true most of the Indians wipe their poop w their hands what's so racist about it. Same can be said for people who use tissue like they don't wipe their asses neatly and poop sticks to their ass is that a racist remark?? Not denying that he was racist but his only fault was he targeted both indians and indos 😂
Bro was just unlucky

#31
iframedeez
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you must admit the whole situation is funny af from spectator wise, contract termination is too far tho I don't agree with that. 2 weeks disciplinary seems fair

but again and again mimosa still got his impressions and people still fall for his tweet, man I have enough to laugh for this week🤣🤣🤣

#34
Coldzera
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Bro even 2weeks is harsh personally I don't think he said anything racist and was just frustrated like a random ranked player but nth being a big ass org surely don't want their reputation go down. Not a big L for tenten though considering they didn't even qualify for ascension and will be disbanding soon😂

#36
iframedeez
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different culture that's why I said 2 weeks is more than enough

#35
omoshiroioshirin
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bro if indian/indonesian player said "f**n japan" "you wash ur @ss with bidet, hiroshima, nagasaki", to a JP player, the next day, it would be disastrous.

#37
bobkiller
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that’s not what tenten said though lil bro

it’s not even close💀💀💀

#42
omoshiroioshirin
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yea, I mean exclude hiroshima nagasaki, thats the cause of McDonald people, but then its the same

#24
ShivTheGreat01
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buddy only if tenten didn't drag Indians in that shit it wouldn't have been such a big controversy....he did that...indians got mad and started tagging NTH CEO and all that shid and got his ass fired 💀

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hystorez
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I think we need to clarify: the problem between Fl1pz and Tenten became clear yesterday when tenten and his brother reached out to fl1pz to discuss the issue. So, there is no longer any conflict between them now. However, fl1pz feels sorry for the situation that happened to tenten.

The problem escalated to a great extent simply because he stray wrong racism towards India, and Indians cannot accept the racism they received. This worsened the situation. If only tenten had refrained from commenting about India, I believe the problem would not have become this severe/?

#28
simurgh
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Finally a VLRter with a brain.

#29
Pogtestic
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Yea if he was just normal toxic and didnt bring anything from outside the game shit woulda been just another wednesday night for fl1pz and tenten

#30
cocoluna
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TenTen is an idiot though. Why say that?

#59
Ullyr
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Tbh he's young and immature . Literally don't think he thought the consequences out.

#38
hungeryman
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The thing which made Indians angry was the fact that they get discriminated everytime. Have you seen the vct youtube chat. Indians get treated so badly. But they can’t do anything against the youtube comments now can they? But this time when they heard tenten doing this and they finally got a scapegoat. And all the discrimination that Indians faced was put to tenten.

#41
omoshiroioshirin
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bro if indian/indonesian player said "f**n japan" "you wash ur @ss with bidet, hiroshima, nagasaki", to a JP player, the next day, it would be the same thing.

#54
Germanium
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why u putting the same comment everywhere

#58
OzyMeister
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I mean its not just YT comments theres a lot of players on SG server who will say it to your face has been happening since day1 valo came out

#60
onepiss69
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SG server is still better than Mumbai bro

#61
OzyMeister
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Mumbai is more toxic yes but less racist than SG

#33
ayayaay
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in this case tenten is the only one saying racist comments

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