now that the scene has plenty of time to marinate, how do we rate ACENDs run to glory in Berlin '21?
patuj [#2]They were a good team in 2021 and always had potential to win international trophies
oh absolutely
but was their run, loosely speaking, easier than that of most teams in VCT intl lans since?
terribletyranny [#4]oh absolutely
but was their run, loosely speaking, easier than that of most teams in VCT intl lans since?
I mean they originally lost the VK game, but after that went through Envy, Team Secret, Liquid and Gambit. So not super easy. Team Secret was one of the weakest in playoffs and Liquid didn't look as good in semis, so you could argue it was bit easier as some of the others. But I don't really see how any other team would have eliminated them outside of Liquid and Gambit.
Qwertyy [#7]MEGA FLUKE
cNed: grouped
zeek: benched
starxo: KOI
BONECOLD: out of VCT 2023
Kiles: spain vcl
Let's talk about t0nz and y0y lil bro
Qwertyy [#7]MEGA FLUKE
cNed: grouped
zeek: benched
starxo: KOI
BONECOLD: out of VCT 2023
Kiles: spain vcl
SEN 2021 mega fluke
Sick : retarded
Shahz : failed T2 (jobless)
dapr: failed T2 (jobless)
zombs: streamer
Tenz: wont make champs + washed
CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer [#3]Least good emea trophy imo
lock//in was lol acend beat a prime gambit and envy with marved and yay lol
cboomer [#11]lock//in was lol acend beat a prime gambit and envy with marved and yay lol
and fnatic beating the LOUD core fresh off a Champs22 victory and some of the freshest young brazilian talent along with owning NAVI (the team of 4 masters winners and a champs winner who beat prime gambit), as well as two of NA's most potential prospects is bad?
terribletyranny [#12]and fnatic beating the LOUD core fresh off a Champs22 victory and some of the freshest young brazilian talent along with owning NAVI (the team of 4 masters winners and a champs winner who beat prime gambit), as well as two of NA's most potential prospects is bad?
it was a tournament full of new teams, champs 2021 is inherently harder because teams were established, fnatic didn't replace someone as influential as sacy and the FPX win was nice but don't really rate cned in 2023. In short fnatic practiced for a few months before everyone else at a tournament full of new teams and roster changes. Cuan and Tuyz had never been on a stage that big
much easier win than champs 2021 which was two actual superteams
cboomer [#11]lock//in was lol acend beat a prime gambit and envy with marved and yay lol
yeah because cned was toying around with the enemies
bro abused the operator harder than yay abused chamber in 2022 dont lie
Qwertyy [#7]MEGA FLUKE
cNed: grouped
zeek: benched
starxo: KOI
BONECOLD: out of VCT 2023
Kiles: spain vcl
Lets talk about C9
Everyone except core retired or vanished
yay: stuck in t3
vanity: hopeless in t2
EG owns c9
CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer [#14]yeah because cned was toying around with the enemies
bro abused the operator harder than yay abused chamber in 2022 dont lie
zeek and starxo carried anyways, pretty sure d3ffo had like 20 awp kills to cneds 24 too
Champs cned wasn't peak cned at all
cboomer [#13]it was a tournament full of new teams, champs 2021 is inherently harder because teams were established, fnatic didn't replace someone as influential as sacy and the FPX win was nice but don't really rate cned in 2023. In short fnatic practiced for a few months before everyone else at a tournament full of new teams and roster changes. Cuan and Tuyz had never been on a stage that big
much easier win than champs 2021 which was two actual superteams
cNed with the op was like prime kennyS, he carried them almost entirely on his own to the trophy
off of heroics like that, you dont call it a superteam
terribletyranny [#4]oh absolutely
but was their run, loosely speaking, easier than that of most teams in VCT intl lans since?
Liquid and Gambit were heavy favorites to win to whoel thing so no they didnt have it easy
terribletyranny [#17]cNed with the op was like prime kennyS, he carried them almost entirely on his own to the trophy
off of heroics like that, you dont call it a superteam
ur a casual lmfao what cned wasn't even the second best player on acend at champs l0l average vlr user thinks cned having 4 more awp kills than mf d3ffo in the finals makes him god
cboomer [#19]ur a casual lmfao what cned wasn't even the second best player on acend at champs l0l average vlr user thinks cned having 4 more awp kills than mf d3ffo in the finals makes him god
bro u wafflin.
patuj [#8]I mean they originally lost the VK game, but after that went through Envy, Team Secret, Liquid and Gambit. So not super easy. Team Secret was one of the weakest in playoffs and Liquid didn't look as good in semis, so you could argue it was bit easier as some of the others. But I don't really see how any other team would have eliminated them outside of Liquid and Gambit.
Liquid was always overrated (old roster). They just exposed them.
cboomer [#19]ur a casual lmfao what cned wasn't even the second best player on acend at champs l0l average vlr user thinks cned having 4 more awp kills than mf d3ffo in the finals makes him god
this man has never watched before 2022 and it shows
terribletyranny [#10]SEN 2021 mega fluke
Sick : retarded
Shahz : failed T2 (jobless)
dapr: failed T2 (jobless)
zombs: streamer
Tenz: wont make champs + washed
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Qwertyy [#7]MEGA FLUKE
cNed: grouped
zeek: benched
starxo: KOI
BONECOLD: out of VCT 2023
Kiles: spain vcl
yay: jobless
marved: sen
fns: nrg
crashies: nrg
victor: nrg
tenz: sen
shahzam: tier2
dapr: struggling on tier 2 with shahz
zombs: retired and shit
sick: gone mad
bonecold is still on a team you nonce
zeek is underperforming
cned is on navi
kiles is on vcl (still on a team and competing for ascension)
starxo: koi
D3FFO: get ready to learn chinese
nAts: liquid
redgar: liquid
chronicle: fnatic and has won 3 trophies
sheydos: koi
don't need to mention fnc
EU trophies: 3 and 1 champs trophy
NA trophies: 2 and 1 champs trophy
who had fluke runs because EU was underperforming otherwise would've been buttfucked by EU?
sexocum [#24]I supported acend throughout champs cause it was the first valorant lan I watched, my friends supported gambit cause they beat kru, you can't imagine my joy when they beat gmb, sure, they were "chokers" but at the same time, they earned that trophy with those performances.
sexocum