This is just so sad. Everyone knows Americas deserves way better. Hell I’d rather see 4th pacific team than emea. Pacific has better teams too imo like GenG, Team Secret and Zeta. I think they will be more entertaining to watch than any of the emea teams
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TipTop [#3]I bet you all I have Giants clear zeta geng and secret togehter
Flag and flair = biased kkkkk
TipTop [#3]I bet you all I have Giants clear zeta geng and secret togehter
Giants: https://www.vlr.gg/184051/giants-gaming-vs-team-heretics-champions-tour-2023-emea-league-w6
hekzy [#2]Did Tokyo end already?
we all know this is gonna be FNC. I don't think anyone can take a bo5 from them
which is sad, nobody wants one more EMEA slot
Cat4clysma [#8]we all know this is gonna be FNC. I don't think anyone can take a bo5 from them
which is sad, nobody wants one more EMEA slot
i do
Cat4clysma [#8]we all know this is gonna be FNC. I don't think anyone can take a bo5 from them
which is sad, nobody wants one more EMEA slot
I honestly want the 5th slot
Americas fans are crying bitches so an extra slot for them would be a waste
yuzukaze [#7]Just fucking win for fuck sake
Quit cryingEverytime NA is put in a little disadvantage you cry about it the whole time and use it as an excuse
But at the same time demand that EMEA gets put in a huge disadvantage
Well Fnatic will win it and they are the best in the world, no denying that. Be honest tho, even you would rather see 5 Americas team than 5 emea teams kkkkkkk
Simp4S0m [#16]Well Fnatic will win it and they are the best in the world, no denying that. Be honest tho, even you would rather see 5 Americas team than 5 emea teams kkkkkkk
Nah I don't care about Americas teams at all
There could be the biggest roster changes in the entire Valorant history and I wouldn't even notice
Simp4S0m [#16]Well Fnatic will win it and they are the best in the world, no denying that. Be honest tho, even you would rather see 5 Americas team than 5 emea teams kkkkkkk
Not everybody wants to see the goofy ahh clout orgs bro
yuzukaze [#15]I honestly want the 5th slot
Americas fans are crying bitches so an extra slot for them would be a waste
nah, you're wrong. Americas have better teams overall. Just because EMEA top 1 is better than all Americas, doesn't mean that one more slot for EMEA makes the game more enjoyable to watch.
For as much as you want to bait or whatever, you know that Americas seed 1~5 are way better than EMEA 2~5. You may deny it, but we know that you know
FoechiGG [#19]Not everybody wants to see the goofy ahh clout orgs bro
Meanwhile you’d be watching Americas LCQ instead of emea LCQ kekw
Simp4S0m [#21]Meanwhile you’d be watching Americas LCQ instead of emea LCQ kekw
Not really. It's pointless. C9's winning it
Simp4S0m [#21]Meanwhile you’d be watching Americas LCQ instead of emea LCQ kekw
Im watching both as far as i can because i dont hate on entire regions
Cat4clysma [#20]nah, you're wrong. Americas have better teams overall. Just because EMEA top 1 is better than all Americas, doesn't mean that one more slot for EMEA makes the game more enjoyable to watch.
For as much as you want to bait or whatever, you know that Americas seed 1~5 are way better than EMEA 2~5. You may deny it, but we know that you know
i'll come back with an answer in two days
Cat4clysma [#20]nah, you're wrong. Americas have better teams overall. Just because EMEA top 1 is better than all Americas, doesn't mean that one more slot for EMEA makes the game more enjoyable to watch.
For as much as you want to bait or whatever, you know that Americas seed 1~5 are way better than EMEA 2~5. You may deny it, but we know that you know
Alright hear me out. When comparing the regions right now, nobody bothers taking FNATIC into consideration because they seem to be clearly above every other team. But when you take one regions top team out of consideration you have to do so with the other region as well. So i wont get into EGs performance and lets take a look at what we are left with. There is Loud that got send out even quicker than NaVi and FUT and there is NRG, who made it pretty far tbh. But they still dropped maps vs EMEA and pacific teams and they even needed an absolute throw from liquid to take the match. Im not saying they dont deserve their spot but there was no big gap between them and the teams they beat. So this whole Americas is so much better thing is straight up copium for now at least.
FoechiGG [#23]Im watching both as far as i can because i dont hate on entire regions
If 1 emea team that’s not Liquid or Fnatic make it out of groups in champs maybe I’ll admit I’m wrong kkkkkk
FoechiGG [#25]Alright hear me out. When comparing the regions right now, nobody bothers taking FNATIC into consideration because they seem to be clearly above every other team. But when you take one regions top team out of consideration you have to do so with the other region as well. So i wont get into EGs performance and lets take a look at what we are left with. There is Loud that got send out even quicker than NaVi and FUT and there is NRG, who made it pretty far tbh. But they still dropped maps vs EMEA and pacific teams and they even needed an absolute throw from liquid to take the match. Im not saying they dont deserve their spot but there was no big gap between them and the teams they beat. So this whole Americas is so much better thing is straight up copium for now at least.
Mmmmmm fair point but I still disagree.
We're not taking FNC out and comparing to the others just because it's convenient. We do so, because FNC is clearly too much better, not only better than EMEA, but better than every team in every region.
And we're not taking the others top1 bc the other leagues top1 are closer to top 2, 3 etc.
I understand that TL beating FNC on EMEA grandfinals is a strong argument against the "EMEA is a 1 team region" narrative, but the narrative doesn't come from FNC being better alone. It comes from how each franchise happened in parallel.
VCT Americas was much more twisted and crazy (which doesn't make VCT EMEA not crazy, I'm just saying Americas was more).
So, what I'm trying to point out here is that Americas is much more homogeneous, while EMEA looks waaaaaaaaaaaay more heterogeneous. And this homogeneity in Americas makes it look like there's a blurry cloud of Americas teams in a position that seems to be slightly better than EMEA's heterogeneous teams.
It is as if it were like
- FNATIC
- blurry cloud of 4~5 Americas teams + TL
- all the rest of EMEA
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