LG is a terrible org. They benched their best player (Thief) just to pick up 2 t3 players that haven't even proved anything in T2...
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gutszeraa [#2]2/8
Tf u mean?? Thief was the only reason they were even T1 in the first place... he was there only one that showed up when it mattered ... plus check his match history... always top frag (in pro play)
LouBag [#5]I hate that I agree with this clown. LG is officially t2 now.
Hope I am wrong, cause I love to see fresh blood succeed.
How am I a clown?
hiyo [#7]3/8, dazzLe is really good(also a bit older) and ban is the equivalent of bringing bang to TSM
Dazzle went -28 in his last match... bang played Astra and top fragged against sentinels... they are no where near equal
Idek why I try to reason with baiters and dumbasses like u but here goes. LG had the same problem teams like Gen.G, Envy and C9 had where they had a duelist that played one agent and was not particularly good at anything else. Thief is basically jsut a more fraggy kaboose, very solo oriented and puts up monster stats on Raze, but has underperformed in every way on every other agent. He's a Raze one trick, and having duelist one trick players that can only play Raze will put u at a deficit before the match even starts. Thief is a great player and a really good aimer but having him on the roster probably would never get them past this current SEN team, unless the meta really fits them. Stellar in general was pretty replaceable and the idea as far as we can tell is that they are looking for young players that have the potential to be absolute stars, but are right now big gambles. Ban was one of the best T2 Jett players in the past few months, and Jett was an agent that LG was really lacking. I'm a bit more skeptical of the Dazzle pickup, but he is an experienced player(has ties with Moose from CS) and is a self sufficient fragging IGL.
GooberBoy [#11]Idek why I try to reason with baiters and dumbasses like u but here goes. LG had the same problem teams like Gen.G, Envy and C9 had where they had a duelist that played one agent and was not particularly good at anything else. Thief is basically jsut a more fraggy kaboose, very solo oriented and puts up monster stats on Raze, but has underperformed in every way on every other agent. He's a Raze one trick, and having duelist one trick players that can only play Raze will put u at a deficit before the match even starts. Thief is a great player and a really good aimer but having him on the roster probably would never get them past this current SEN team, unless the meta really fits them. Stellar in general was pretty replaceable and the idea as far as we can tell is that they are looking for young players that have the potential to be absolute stars, but are right now big gambles. Ban was one of the best T2 Jett players in the past few months, and Jett was an agent that LG was really lacking. I'm a bit more skeptical of the Dazzle pickup, but he is an experienced player(has ties with Moose from CS) and is a self sufficient fragging IGL.
Ban was no where near the best in T2.. dazzle was absolute shit.... u say that Thief was a one trick but Ban is a jett one trick stfu my guy... the fact that u think Thief can't learn other duelist and the fact that u think ban is even comparable to thief makes me think ur have down syndrome or something... and I never said anything about stellar... I know he's bad but Dazzle is even worse lmfao.mm my guy was stuck in T3 for a reason
GetsystheGr8 [#12]Ban was no where near the best in T2.. dazzle was absolute shit.... u say that Thief was a one trick but Ban is a jett one trick stfu my guy... the fact that u think Thief can't learn other duelist and the fact that u think ban is even comparable to thief makes me think ur have down syndrome or something... and I never said anything about stellar... I know he's bad but Dazzle is even worse lmfao.mm my guy was stuck in T3 for a reason
god I see why people avoid this site holy shit, you give actual insight and analysis and these are the people that react, cool.
GooberBoy [#13]god I see why people avoid this site holy shit, you give actual insight and analysis and these are the people that react, cool.
Ur insight was bs... look at the stats
GetsystheGr8 [#14]Ur insight was bs... look at the stats
among na raze players that have 200+ rounds against 1750 or better teams(BBG is the lowest for example), he is in the bottom half, only ahead of Zekken(good player but plays on a t2 team so his stats are with a grain of salt), Kaboose(dropped) Subroza and Ayrin(both off of Raze and played a completely different style) and Shawn who ill give to him is a great player but Raze is undeniably shawns worst duelist while he has 2 other ones he is better at.
So on his one trick agent, he doesn't frag out when playing against good teams, which is odd since Raze has always been the most important agent on the LG teams
https://www.vlr.gg/stats/?event_group_id=all&event_id=all®ion=na&country=all&min_rounds=200&min_rating=1750&agent=reyna&map_id=all×pan=all
Reyna is the other agent he plays a lot, and from this one we can see that the only ones who are statistically worse than him are Kaboose and Roca, two dropped players. Even Poiz is above him.
https://www.vlr.gg/stats/?event_group_id=all&event_id=all®ion=na&country=all&min_rounds=150&min_rating=1750&agent=phoenix&map_id=all×pan=all
for Phoenix he is at the very bottom.
He played basically one agent all qualifiers and historically isn't even that great. So he is a onetrick that isn't statistically that good at the character and also doesn't pass the eyecheck when watching the games. He's also bottom tier on the two other agents he plays. What about the stats says he's great, or is it just that you click on his vlrgg profile and see that he has acs because he's dropping 30 on teams like Dababyclan lol.
GooberBoy [#15]among na raze players that have 200+ rounds against 1750 or better teams(BBG is the lowest for example), he is in the bottom half, only ahead of Zekken(good player but plays on a t2 team so his stats are with a grain of salt), Kaboose(dropped) Subroza and Ayrin(both off of Raze and played a completely different style) and Shawn who ill give to him is a great player but Raze is undeniably shawns worst duelist while he has 2 other ones he is better at.
So on his one trick agent, he doesn't frag out when playing against good teams, which is odd since Raze has always been the most important agent on the LG teams
https://www.vlr.gg/stats/?event_group_id=all&event_id=all®ion=na&country=all&min_rounds=200&min_rating=1750&agent=reyna&map_id=all×pan=all
Reyna is the other agent he plays a lot, and from this one we can see that the only ones who are statistically worse than him are Kaboose and Roca, two dropped players. Even Poiz is above him.https://www.vlr.gg/stats/?event_group_id=all&event_id=all®ion=na&country=all&min_rounds=150&min_rating=1750&agent=phoenix&map_id=all×pan=all
for Phoenix he is at the very bottom.He played basically one agent all qualifiers and historically isn't even that great. So he is a onetrick that isn't statistically that good at the character and also doesn't pass the eyecheck when watching the games. He's also bottom tier on the two other agents he plays. What about the stats says he's great, or is it just that you click on his vlrgg profile and see that he has acs because he's dropping 30 on teams like Dababyclan lol.
thief has proven more than both dazzle and ban in T1 even if he has underperformed in the last qualifiers which is probably why some people question this move
plas [#16]thief has proven more than both dazzle and ban in T1 even if he has underperformed in the last qualifiers which is probably why some people question this move
He didn't even underperformed in the last qual... he was top frag every matcj
plas [#16]thief has proven more than both dazzle and ban in T1 even if he has underperformed in the last qualifiers which is probably why some people question this move
Oh i def get questioning it, but this guy is blindly simping for Thief when hes been the biggest underperformer on an underperforming team. I'm not saying they will instantly be upgrades or that LG has 100% made upgrades, only time will tell for that. What I am saying is that Thief isn't this god duelist like this guy really wants him to be. Ban at least plays a more impactful agent, brings an OP to the team which they needed greatly, allows for Dre to get off of Jett and onto other agents and has a higher overall upside. He also was playing Sage and Skye in his last tournament which is a good sign for team flexibility. I truly do think that LG needed a change and Thief IMO was the likely candidate, and Ban is very much a high upside player to bring in
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