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can we all agree

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#1
KanyeAsada

crashies and leo are the two best initiators in the world nobody else comes close

#2
1mBor3d
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yep easily

#3
Dolphin
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Trick aim clears

#4
BayArea
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My goat TrickAIM says that Leo doesn’t even come close to crashies

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TmhariMummy
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Leo>Crashies

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titanwithpp
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cum clears crashies

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blitzz_
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and Chronicle/Vic top 2 flex

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GreyDaze
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blitzz_ [#7]

and Chronicle/Vic top 2 flex

Forsaken>Victor as a flex

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Yessirskiiii
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Leo is clear of Crashies respectfully

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GreyDaze
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Yessirskiiii [#9]

Leo is clear of Crashies respectfully

Common knowledge

#11
Swxtch
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Yessirskiiii [#9]

Leo is clear of Crashies respectfully

False

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Gutwi
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Shao clears crashit

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TrialRunnr
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Yessirskiiii [#9]

Leo is clear of Crashies respectfully

atleast they both clear Shao

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RonaldMcDonald
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Gutwi [#12]

Shao clears crashit

Delusion

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Cresp
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Would say shao but shao has a worse initiator pool.
No skye or breach unlucky

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TrialRunnr
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Cresp [#15]

Would say shao but shao has a worse initiator pool.
No skye or breach unlucky

no cum cresp?

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Waking_W
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Stax was a demon in champs but whatever

#18
Tashfeen
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Yessirskiiii [#9]

Leo is clear of Crashies respectfully

imo it’s so close that either have the ability to diff the other depending on the day

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Yessirskiiii
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Tashfeen [#18]

imo it’s so close that either have the ability to diff the other depending on the day

There's a noticable gap

#20
Waking_W
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titanwithpp [#6]

cum clears crashies

Too early

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GreyDaze
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Tashfeen [#18]

imo it’s so close that either have the ability to diff the other depending on the day

It's not as close as u think it is

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Cresp
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TrialRunnr [#16]

no cum cresp?

Cum is big brain, can play any role to insane potential.

I dont rate him for his actual play even tho he is actually p good. I rate him for his midrounding and his understanding of what he should do to win rounds.

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Moiraine
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Respectfully, Crashies is not in the same tier as Leo and shao.

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Moiraine
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Cresp [#15]

Would say shao but shao has a worse initiator pool.
No skye or breach unlucky

It's because he has a flasher on the team. Shao is info initiator and Zyppan is flash initiator. NAVI rarely play double flashes, and when they do, Ange1 likes to do it.
Shao can play flashers too.

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KanyeAsada
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Moiraine [#23]

Respectfully, Crashies is not in the same tier as Leo and shao.

respectfully, crashies clears shao effortlessly

#26
Targu1n
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Moiraine [#23]

Respectfully, Crashies is not in the same tier as Leo and shao.

shao isnt even an initiator atm

#27
titanwithpp
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And someone said crashies is one of the best initiators in the world

🤡🤡🤡🤡

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