ange1 gonna show ardiis why glory >> money
duels to watch:
Crashies vs shao (BEASTS)
FNS vs ange1 (fns clears brain-wise but loses mechanically)
TrialRunnr [#3]Ardiis chose glory and money tho
we will see, I fear NAVI is gonna be dogshit on group stage but will play godmode on lower bracket playoffs
and last time fpx won 3-1
sylv1o [#4]we will see, I fear NAVI is gonna be dogshit on group stage but will play godmode on lower bracket playoffs
and last time fpx won 3-1
its NAVI now bro and if they are dogshit in the group stage they aint making out of the groups
Simp4S0m [#8]OMEGALUL Ardiis chose money + the glory. He’s earning better money while in a better team
Better team KKKKK
fns and Victor go double/triple negative every map, poor Keith has to carry
Itsover [#10]Better team KKKKK
fns and Victor go double/triple negative every map, poor Keith has to carry
FNS is understandable but victor is awful lately, all he knows is to farm tier 5 like MIbr and KRU
Itsover [#10]Better team KKKKK
fns and Victor go double/triple negative every map, poor Keith has to carry
I really hate Victor but he was really good this split for nrg , he was only bad kayo . He really improved from how bad he was during the chamber meta when yay was just carrying them
sylv1o [#11]FNS is understandable but victor is awful lately, all he knows is to farm tier 5 like MIbr and KRU
Fr, he will get diffed by edg because edg are better players than kru and mibr for sure.
vanyavlr [#12]I really hate Victor but he was really good this split for nrg , he was only bad kayo . He really improved from how bad he was during the chamber meta when yay was just carrying them
He will shit his pants against actual good teams(edg and navi) in high stakes games, he can only perform in mickey mouse groups. Crashies, ardis and s0m need to leave if they want trophies because 3v5 will lead them to top 4 finishes at most.
Itsover [#14]He will shit his pants against actual good teams(edg and navi) in high stakes games, he can only perform in mickey mouse groups. Crashies, ardis and s0m need to leave if they want trophies because 3v5 will lead them to top 4 finishes at most.
FNS + chet are half the team bro, i took a while to accept it but its just the truth
for example C9 clears everyone mechanically but loses on high preassure and heavy antistrat games on playoffs
sylv1o [#15]FNS + chet are half the team bro, i took a while to accept it but its just the truth
for example C9 clears everyone mechanically but loses on high preassure and heavy antistrat games on playoffs
You can have a mediocre igl like boaster and still win games, they should make na fnatic.
vanyavlr [#12]I really hate Victor but he was really good this split for nrg , he was only bad kayo . He really improved from how bad he was during the chamber meta when yay was just carrying them
wtf has victor done to make you hate him?
Itsover [#14]He will shit his pants against actual good teams(edg and navi) in high stakes games, he can only perform in mickey mouse groups. Crashies, ardis and s0m need to leave if they want trophies because 3v5 will lead them to top 4 finishes at most.
U are probably right but he was very good against LOUD and Navi aint looking that strong lately , but i still think that they are winning over nrg
vanyavlr [#18]U are probably right but he was very good against LOUD and Navi aint looking that strong lately , but i still think that they are winning over nrg
He was only good during mickey mouse groups, in playoffs Keith and crashies carried them, Victor was meh
tinted [#17]wtf has victor done to make you hate him?
People overrating him when he was playing duelist during the chamber meta , like everyone was talking abt how crazy his neon was , but he only had highlights and the rest of the game he was useless , he was only good when he played raze on bind for optic last year , whenever he plays kayo he is awfull individually , but everyone was talking about how good his kayo was
vanyavlr [#20]People overrating him when he was playing duelist during the chamber meta , like everyone was talking abt how crazy his neon was , but he only had highlights and the rest of the game he was useless , he was only good when he played raze on bind for optic last year , whenever he plays kayo he is awfull individually , but everyone was talking about how good his kayo was
So OTHER people “overhyping” him (which wasn’t that big of a deal - fragging on a hard entry role like neon isn’t easy) made you hate him… I mean, I can’t say I understand that logic, but sure
Simp4S0m [#8]OMEGALUL Ardiis chose money + the glory. He’s earning better money while in a better team
Better team that couldn't even make semis of last tournament they attended lmao
tinted [#21]So OTHER people “overhyping” him (which wasn’t that big of a deal - fragging on a hard entry role like neon isn’t easy) made you hate him… I mean, I can’t say I understand that logic, but sure
fax tho victor is crazy, and the fact he can basically play any fricking agent in the game is even more crazy.
BEHEMOTH [#22]Better team that couldn't even make semis of last tournament they attended lmao
Optic core placings at all international events: N/A , 2nd, 9th, 2nd, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 2nd, 5th(lost to finalist)
NAVI core placings at all international events: N/A, N/A, N/A, N/A, N/A, N/A, 1st, 4th, 4th
only an idiot would choose NAVI as a better team LMAO
TrialRunnr [#24]Optic core placings at all international events: N/A , 2nd, 9th, 2nd, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 2nd, 5th(lost to finalist)
NAVI core placings at all international events: N/A, N/A, N/A, N/A, N/A, N/A, 1st, 4th, 4th
only an idiot would choose NAVI as a better team LMAO
Yeah I forgot Optic made franchise, guess Yay and Marved couldn't perform for NRG. Also wrote 'lost to finalists' as if Navi lost to some unknown team at lock in. Navi is the better team since they performed better last event.
BEHEMOTH [#25]Yeah I forgot Optic made franchise, guess Yay and Marved couldn't perform for NRG. Also wrote 'lost to finalists' as if Navi lost to some unknown team at lock in. Navi is the better team since they performed better last event.
last event was the league where NAVi ended up 4th and NRG made finals, whats your excuse now?
BEHEMOTH [#25]Yeah I forgot Optic made franchise, guess Yay and Marved couldn't perform for NRG. Also wrote 'lost to finalists' as if Navi lost to some unknown team at lock in. Navi is the better team since they performed better last event.
Put it this way, NRG faced one of the finalist of Lock in in groups while Navi faced one of them in semi finals. NRG almost had it while Navi got destroyed kkkk
TrialRunnr [#26]last event was the league where NAVi ended up 4th and NRG made finals, whats your excuse now?
They play in same league lmao? The last tournament where their competition was same was Lock In and Navi performed better. If they are worse like you say they are then we will see it the next tournament.
BEHEMOTH [#28]They play in same league lmao? The last tournament where their competition was same was Lock In and Navi performed better. If they are worse like you say they are then we will see it the next tournament.
A tourney without a lower bracket where they faced, KRU, Team Secret and Leviatan, stop it, you look like an idiot making this argument.
Most recent proper tourney where they both were involved in were Champs where Optic made finals.
Simp4S0m [#27]Put it this way, NRG faced one of the finalist of Lock in in groups while Navi faced one of them in semi finals. NRG almost had it while Navi got destroyed kkkk
Navi still semi finalists and lost to the winners, NRG lost to runners up whatever correlation and dumb analysis u make won't change that, especially when NRG knows Loud better than any other team.
TrialRunnr [#29]A tourney without a lower bracket where they faced, KRU, Team Secret and Leviatan, stop it, you look like an idiot making this argument.
Most recent proper tourney where they both were involved in were Champs where Optic made finals.
The only idiot here is you who is residing to insults to prove stuff that makes no sense and has no correlation. We judge teams based on their past performance and Navi were better it shouldn't be so difficult to admit that especially when this NRG team is new and there are lot of things to improve for them
BEHEMOTH [#31]The only idiot here is you who is residing to insults to prove stuff that makes no sense and has no correlation. We judge teams based on their past performance and Navi were better it shouldn't be so difficult to admit that especially when this NRG team is new and there are lot of things to improve for them
I am not residing to insults mate, I am telling you only an idiot would judge a team based on how far they made it in lock in knowing the format of the tournament, and why pretend like NAVI team isnt new and placing 4th is better than placing 2nd in a more competitive region?
TrialRunnr [#33]I am not residing to insults mate, I am telling you only an idiot would judge a team based on how far they made it in lock in knowing the format of the tournament, and why pretend like NAVI team isnt new and placing 4th is better than placing 2nd in a more competitive region?
The format was same for Navi as far as I know, there is nothing to pretend. Navi only added 1 new player compared to NRG who added 2 and do you genuinely believe the 'more competitive region' thing? And even if you believe that what makes you think it has any effect on final results of the league where you have to compete against the top 6 teams.
Look the thing is like I said, Navi performed better at Lock IN which was the last tournament so for me they are the better team, if NRG performs better than Navi then they'll be the better team. If you think about it that's a way better metric to compare teams unlike making dumb assumption based on hypothetical scenarios that never played out
BEHEMOTH [#34]The format was same for Navi as far as I know, there is nothing to pretend. Navi only added 1 new player compared to NRG who added 2 and do you genuinely believe the 'more competitive region' thing? And even if you believe that what makes you think it has any effect on final results of the league where you have to compete against the top 6 teams.
Look the thing is like I said, Navi performed better at Lock IN which was the last tournament so for me they are the better team, if NRG performs better than Navi then they'll be the better team. If you think about it that's a way better metric to compare teams unlike making dumb assumption based on hypothetical scenarios that never played out
by your logic Team Liquid must be shit yea cus they got 1 rounded by Team Secret?
sylv1o [#11]FNS is understandable but victor is awful lately, all he knows is to farm tier 5 like MIbr and KRU
lil bro forgot he farmed loud😭