Robbery

Ok this is my last straw this Vlr rating needs to go. How tf is skuba over reduxx in rating when reduxx carried them so hard.

https://www.vlr.gg/196161/m80-vs-oxygen-esports-challengers-league-north-america-w10

how does this affect lebron's legacy?

I agree. Mistic is heavily underrated bc of this R stat

idk but skuba is the goat

Jogular [#3]

I agree. Mistic is heavily underrated bc of this R stat

thoughts on fnatic and navi match?

Wait this is actual scam... lol I mean skuba good too but this map reduxx was carrying hard .

im bouta think of my own rating calc cause every rating stat ive seen is so ass

Ullyr [#6]

Wait this is actual scam... lol I mean skuba good too but this map reduxx was carrying hard .

What happened

I love vlr gg but the spike gg rating is much better and I use that one

Here are some advanced stats:
reduxx had 6 of his kills immediately traded compared to zero from skuba
reduxx had 10 deaths with even player differentials (most important fights) while skuba had 4
reduxx also took slightly more fights against eco rounds, and a higher percentage of skuba's deaths happened when there was a large player differential and had less impact on the round. Also 4 more assists for skuba

essentially, both players did really well, but a higher percentage of skuba's fights had a significant positive impact on their chances of winning the round.

vlr rating is based so heavily on kast its annoying

FerahgoTheGreat [#10]

Here are some advanced stats:
reduxx had 6 of his kills immediately traded compared to zero from skuba
reduxx had 10 deaths with even player differentials (most important fights) while skuba had 4
reduxx also took slightly more fights against eco rounds, and a higher percentage of skuba's deaths happened when there was a large player differential and had less impact on the round. Also 4 more assists for skuba

essentially, both players did really well, but a higher percentage of skuba's fights had a significant positive impact on their chances of winning the round.

reduxx got 2 clutches and won important rounds

FerahgoTheGreat [#10]

Here are some advanced stats:
reduxx had 6 of his kills immediately traded compared to zero from skuba
reduxx had 10 deaths with even player differentials (most important fights) while skuba had 4
reduxx also took slightly more fights against eco rounds, and a higher percentage of skuba's deaths happened when there was a large player differential and had less impact on the round. Also 4 more assists for skuba

essentially, both players did really well, but a higher percentage of skuba's fights had a significant positive impact on their chances of winning the round.

more - fix the rating system

less - writing articles on trans observers from the worst observing region (NA)

batchestingveryhard [#5]

thoughts on fnatic and navi match?

Fnatic 2-0 bc they have Boaster

crashhacker1 [#13]

more - fix the rating system

less - writing articles on trans observers from the worst observing region (NA)

Flag + ratio

Jogular [#14]

Fnatic 2-0 bc they have Boaster

but acend cned 😢

batchestingveryhard [#16]

but acend cned 😢

If he was in his Acend form, I think they would've had a chance

But Boaster is shaping up to be the best player itw aim-wise so idt it'll happen

zidmz [#11]

vlr rating is based so heavily on kast its annoying

KAST is widely considered to be little more than a gimmick stat.
The rating doesn't use the KAST number whatsoever. Things that affect KAST also affect the rating but in different ways. For instance, trading only affects the weights of the fights taken in order to determine how important that fight was to winning/losing the round.

I actually looked at correlation between rating and other stats, and the rating is most closely correlated to the kill and death +- (per round as all things are), and not as much K/D ratio, KAST, ACS, or other stats. The correlation to KAST is actually pretty flimsy (other stats have a stronger correlation with KAST). VLR's rating has a stronger correlation to kills and deaths than ACS or thespike's rating.

Thats not to say that there aren't significant upgrades that could be made to the VLR rating in future updates. It is currently balanced on stats from roughly 2021 to 2022, but patch 5.12 made the assist numbers of KAY/O and the controllers (who were already significantly on top of the assist charts) jump into the stratosphere. It didn't impact that specific OXY vs M80 map too much, but assist scaling has gotten a little wonky in 2023.