GIANTS LAUGH THREAD

#30

1cameh

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since you seem like a logical mind, how do you think Americas compares to EMEA? i've watched essentially all of Americas and EMEA because my job is extremely flexible, and from what I've seen, EMEA has a better pool of team than Americas. hell, LOUD isn't even completely consistent - the only team in Americas proving themselves to be consistently improving is C9, and NRG to an extent, but that's a hot topic

FNC, FUT, Giants (except for this match), NAVI (kinda in same spot as LOUD) all look pretty solid

#33

hell_on_earth

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hard to say until they play each other, but i would say both are top heavy. c9 looking better than loud, but that might change come playoffs or internationals. both could challenge fnatic in my mind. emea is slightly less competitive when it comes to the bottom teams, and navi looking kinda sloppy, but still showing really good stuff, their fracture is stil top tier even with yoru. tl seems to be constantly improving/changing comps but their haven is atrocious and they've been permabanning pearl which is gonna bite them in internationals. nrg looked real bad at first but are now looking great. the problem is literally all of this can and will change come tokyo or even playoffs, teams will start doing new strats and getting antistratted, upsets are gonna happen, new teams like giants might become better, might become worse, nrg might look as good as optic or might not, c9 might continue looking fantastic or might get countered, tl might suddenly become beasts at haven (unlikely) etc
also americas play pearl like every series and emea just don't, every emea team is gonna have to permaban it unless they learn to play it.

#37

1cameh

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the regional advantage/disadvantage of pearl wasn't something i'd considered, but that's a great point. the map should be removed and reworked, honestly, B site simulator gets old quite quickly

i think Tokyo is gonna be a free win for FNC, not gonna lie. with LOUD's inconsistency, it's hard to say if they're trying new stuff or if they're just off kilter, i think it's more the latter, because tuyz and saadhak have been fragging quite poorly for a bit now which seems to open holes for teams with more consistent players to open wider. NAVI need to rein cned in a bit, he's been inting quite a bit recently, just going for hyper aggro plays, which has led to SUYGETSU not doing as well as he was last year. not necessarily crucial for their success, but that seems to be what flips NAVI between good and great - letting him get in on the action more.

C9 have a chance to beat FNC if they get a great mental coach starting now. otherwise, facing a team with better skill across the board and a great caller, better than LOUD, could just break them. but they didn't break against LOUD, so i'd be curious to see how well they do.

i haven't watched TL closely enough to say if i agree with you or not. how would you rank EMEA currently? even after yesterday I'd still go

FNC
NAVI
Giants
FUT
TL
KOI