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#1
Gomes255

What is the whole general idea/opinion in Brasil about gtn and frz and their position/role in Vikings? And what do you think will/should happen in the BR teams after this? Maybe more roster shuffles?

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Philosopher_Stone
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Well, on the Brazilian tournaments frz and sacy had pretty similar stats, however he ultimately didn’t show up in LAN.

Sutecas impressed me the most, as in terms of ACS he was the one expected to underperform

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Imagine having double duelist players but still let Sova player (Sacy) top ACS

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Jawa
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They were never the best, but good enough for VKS to qualify.

If you look at their stats, they are not even that good, Sacy and even Saadhak have more ACS and ADR than both of them. And I'm not even talking about this tournament in particular.

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they definitely are not the best duelists that we have in brasil, there are a lot of players a hundred times better than them. I think roster shuffles will happen in VKS and Sharks, in my opinion BR aim is very good but all BR teams must improve their tatics

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vks will sure need some roster changes, don't see them getting better with these duelists.

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ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8
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I feel like this website's Brazilian users are in the pub drinking right now. Not seeing anyone, when before the distribution was like 1/4th of the comments on this website.

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gtn is truly bad, even in his past teams
frz used to play support role and was 'ok', he is not that good mechanic and skilled jett player

if you are a duelist you need to drop 20+ every game, if not, you need to change your role

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Andreyoliveira77
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Bro, GTN is getting a lot of hate now

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Viktor22
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Honestly, about GTN I think that he needs to leave the team because he simply doesn't have the skill to play in international play. For the entirety of the new VKS, he underperformed as a duelist. About FRZ, I think that he can still be a top player because in the challengers finals he was nuts, but in Iceland, he didn't deliver. His biggest strength is how versatile he is, but in this tournament they limited him with only jett and phoenix

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Im 100% sure theyre going to replace gtn for someone like prozin or heat, I dont think theyre going to replace frz but they will copy the EU meta with only 1 duelist and frz will play some support role, Sharks is not going to Berlin since GL and Furia are improving their team with roster changes

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p1lot [#11]

Im 100% sure theyre going to replace gtn for someone like prozin or heat, I dont think theyre going to replace frz but they will copy the EU meta with only 1 duelist and frz will play some support role, Sharks is not going to Berlin since GL and Furia are improving their team with roster changes

prozin is rlly clean. he also did well but the team was diffed.

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trembolonaRage
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p1lot [#11]

Im 100% sure theyre going to replace gtn for someone like prozin or heat, I dont think theyre going to replace frz but they will copy the EU meta with only 1 duelist and frz will play some support role, Sharks is not going to Berlin since GL and Furia are improving their team with roster changes

100% agreed

although, I dont think they will replace gtn, they will give him another change...which is extremely bad for us

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Andreyoliveira77 [#9]

Bro, GTN is getting a lot of hate now

deserved though

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Philosopher_Stone
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soulzi [#14]

deserved though

No. He deserves criticism, not hate.

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moet
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ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8 [#7]

I feel like this website's Brazilian users are in the pub drinking right now. Not seeing anyone, when before the distribution was like 1/4th of the comments on this website.

LMAO we just accepted the criticism, theres nothing to do

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trembolonaRage [#13]

100% agreed

although, I dont think they will replace gtn, they will give him another change...which is extremely bad for us

they might not even qualify for berlin if they keep gtn honestly. Its not like he had good numbers playing in brazilian tournaments anyways so we can expect the same performance for him. The only difference is that sacy saadhak and sutecas can carry him against worse teams

#18
Andreyoliveira77
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soulzi [#14]

deserved though

There's a big difference of being criticized and being hated. He deserves some critics but no one deserves to be hated because of a horrible First performance in LAN

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Andreyoliveira77 [#18]

There's a big difference of being criticized and being hated. He deserves some critics but no one deserves to be hated because of a horrible First performance in LAN

fair enough. Although i dont think he deserves "some critics" because he deserves every single one hes getting. Hes simply not good enough, period.

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soulzi [#14]

deserved though

He deserves criticism, not hate .....

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Gtn- I never like the gameplay of Gtn when you compare with Mw, John, Heat, Qck and Gaabx.
Frz - Its a good duelist but i think they play better with Phoenix, he shows a good game against X10 and on the qualifys

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valulrantefanboy [#3]

Imagine having double duelist players but still let Sova player (Sacy) top ACS

Sacy will have this ACS dosent matter how good are the duelist. But i think the duelist play very stranges games in the international event

#23
junior
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I think not playing split is terrible. They couldnt ban their oponents best map because they had to ban split. vks only played split once this year

#24
Gomes255
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Andreyoliveira77 [#9]

Bro, GTN is getting a lot of hate now

i just saw both gtn and frz getting hate so i wanted to know what the br fans think about them, not trying to hate :)

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Gomes255
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Viktor22 [#10]

Honestly, about GTN I think that he needs to leave the team because he simply doesn't have the skill to play in international play. For the entirety of the new VKS, he underperformed as a duelist. About FRZ, I think that he can still be a top player because in the challengers finals he was nuts, but in Iceland, he didn't deliver. His biggest strength is how versatile he is, but in this tournament they limited him with only jett and phoenix

so gtn was never impressive but enough while frz although better than gtn, didn't perform as usual and wasn't too impressive as some other br players but is flexible and was limited to duelists?

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Gomes255
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lucenanunes [#5]

they definitely are not the best duelists that we have in brasil, there are a lot of players a hundred times better than them. I think roster shuffles will happen in VKS and Sharks, in my opinion BR aim is very good but all BR teams must improve their tatics

if br focused their best players in 1 or 2 teams and managed to get an ex-cs coach/igl like nuturn did they would be nuts yea

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MarcGP1
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BR teams choked because they change the way they played to adapt to this "meta".. And loose like this is the worst way to loose..

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Gomes255
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MarcGP1 [#27]

BR teams choked because they change the way they played to adapt to this "meta".. And loose like this is the worst way to loose..

hopefully they have roster changes and manage to perform their best in berlin tho

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Gomes255 [#25]

so gtn was never impressive but enough while frz although better than gtn, didn't perform as usual and wasn't too impressive as some other br players but is flexible and was limited to duelists?

yes, before this tournament he played a couple of matches with Skye and sage and in the last year, he was a sova player. He played in a decent level almost half of valorant agent roster

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p1lot [#11]

Im 100% sure theyre going to replace gtn for someone like prozin or heat, I dont think theyre going to replace frz but they will copy the EU meta with only 1 duelist and frz will play some support role, Sharks is not going to Berlin since GL and Furia are improving their team with roster changes

also, Prozin played with Sacy on Red Canids, this could help

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Andreyoliveira77
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Gomes255 [#24]

i just saw both gtn and frz getting hate so i wanted to know what the br fans think about them, not trying to hate :)

I know that, i said It because it's hard to tell you the general opnion because they're getting a lot of hate.

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Gtn is actually top 10 or something in ranked but in pro play he sucks, I never understood how he made it to the team, at the time heat was on a meme team in qualifiers and he was already cracked carrying that team. Heat + Shion would be a very nice upgrade to the team, don't know if they will bench these guys tho, they won everything here they will probably keep them and keep an eye on the meta outside of brazil

#33
MarcGP1
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Gomes255 [#28]

hopefully they have roster changes and manage to perform their best in berlin tho

I hope so..

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BakemonO [#32]

Gtn is actually top 10 or something in ranked but in pro play he sucks, I never understood how he made it to the team, at the time heat was on a meme team in qualifiers and he was already cracked carrying that team. Heat + Shion would be a very nice upgrade to the team, don't know if they will bench these guys tho, they won everything here they will probably keep them and keep an eye on the meta outside of brazil

I saw Saadhack say on an interview to plat chat valorant that they could not remove gtn because of contract with vikings owner..

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trembolonaRage
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BakemonO [#32]

Gtn is actually top 10 or something in ranked but in pro play he sucks, I never understood how he made it to the team, at the time heat was on a meme team in qualifiers and he was already cracked carrying that team. Heat + Shion would be a very nice upgrade to the team, don't know if they will bench these guys tho, they won everything here they will probably keep them and keep an eye on the meta outside of brazil

he was not even close to top10 in ranked

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