Hey guys!
I was here thinking, and I have a question to ask ...
If V1 won in a match played against Crazy Raccoon, and Team Vikings played a similar game against X10, with the result today, with X10 winning with some ease over Crazy Raccoon, we can reach the conclusion that the Team Vikings is a little better than V1?
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If X10 >>> CR then VKS > V1?
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ranker11 [#3]Do you really think VKS can stop penny ?
YES ? they played against patiphan that is just a monster
Mehkek [#2]no v1 beat liquid so you have to count that in lol
But seeing in this context, TL showed in his video on Youtube that on a given map in a VKS training he won with a certain ease of TL on a given map ... It was not the championship, but the teams were the same.
siriuziun [#9]YES ? they played against patiphan that is just a monster
idk. penny seems better than pati, and lets be honest pati is loved bby commentatoris because they need to builf hype for these kinds of matches. penny also plays different, hes a bit more raw in his play.
kindereggmodel [#6]chill. they might face each other. we dont have to make decisions before they play. LOL
Yes, I think so too, I just raised this question that may be interesting but everything can happen in the game!
ThewZ [#15]Yes, I think so too, I just raised this question that may be interesting but everything can happen in the game!
exacto.
ThewZ [#10]But seeing in this context, TL showed in his video on Youtube that on a given map in a VKS training he won with a certain ease of TL on a given map ... It was not the championship, but the teams were the same.
good point but i still think its hard to call vks over v1 so early into the tourney lets see how they hold against sen first
kindereggmodel [#14]idk. penny seems better than pati, and lets be honest pati is loved bby commentatoris because they need to builf hype for these kinds of matches. penny also plays different, hes a bit more raw in his play.
if u think patiphan is overhyped then what do u have to say about cned and mwzera? pati is hyped as he should be a 17 yo prodigy who frags out on any agent and is aggresive
Pigguman [#18]if u think patiphan is overhyped then what do u have to say about cned and mwzera? pati is hyped as he should be a 17 yo prodigy who frags out on any agent and is aggresive
cned isnt overhyped. he performs, or at least he did when they won the first vct vs heretics. for me, mwzzera seems overhyped. although he has mastered counter strafing, his aim is rlly good, why cant he qual for lan? if he is that good he should be able. so his team is worse than sharks and mwzera is a prodigy? lol
kindereggmodel [#19]cned isnt overhyped. he performs, or at least he did when they won the first vct vs heretics. for me, mwzzera seems overhyped. although he has mastered counter strafing, his aim is rlly good, why cant he qual for lan? if he is that good he should be able. so his team is worse than sharks and mwzera is a prodigy? lol
if u watched the games, u would see he is always a nuisance for the enemy. mw won first strike brazil, on a stage. his problem is supporting cast
FireII [#20]if u watched the games, u would see he is always a nuisance for the enemy. mw won first strike brazil, on a stage. his problem is supporting cast
first strike is irrelevant. ok if prolem is support, why doesnt the org get better players. maybe they dont bellieve in him
FireII [#20]if u watched the games, u would see he is always a nuisance for the enemy. mw won first strike brazil, on a stage. his problem is supporting cast
you can say that about a lot of teams but sadly they don't build teams based on one player like they did in league(ex. sk telecom with faker) so many teams would be better if built off one player
FireII [#20]if u watched the games, u would see he is always a nuisance for the enemy. mw won first strike brazil, on a stage. his problem is supporting cast
drone was insane in first strike he is just held back by his teammates according to ur logic
kindereggmodel [#21]first strike is irrelevant. ok if prolem is support, why doesnt the org get better players. maybe they dont bellieve in him
because they have always been competitive. they recently dropped their worst player and are rebuilding, watch the game
Pigguman [#23]drone was insane in first strike he is just held back by his teammates according to ur logic
i would say agree but lowkey fucking true lmao drone hard carry
FireII [#24]because they have always been competitive. they recently dropped their worst player and are rebuilding, watch the game
bro I DONT CARE if they are doing this, doing that. RESULTS ARE WHAT I NEED TO SEE. RESULTS. i avoid talking about him because of all these small convos. good, hopefully their team is good so we can see him at a lan
kindereggmodel [#27]bro I DONT CARE if they are doing this, doing that. RESULTS ARE WHAT I NEED TO SEE. RESULTS. i avoid talking about him because of all these small convos. good, hopefully their team is good so we can see him at a lan
ok... according to your logic, tenz on c9b would be overrated... they arent getting any results but u see him getting record numbers
Mehkek [#26]i would say agree but lowkey fucking true lmao drone hard carry
drone performance in first strike was one of the most dominant pheonix performance in tournies
FireII [#28]ok... according to your logic, tenz on c9b would be overrated... they arent getting any results but u see him getting record numbers
numbers dont matter. results do. he played well and his team didnt. we knew he was good, but brazilians talk SOOOOOO highly of mwzera that THERE ARE NO LIMITS TO HOW GOOD HE IS. they say he is "that " goood, yet he cant qual/
Pigguman [#29]drone performance in first strike was one of the most dominant pheonix performance in tournies
fr drone is insane i love watching that dude
Jawa [#12]Lol, VKS didn't hide strats. Their meta is old(brazilian meta) and they didn't have enough time to adapt to other metas.
Sacy said that in the post game interview.
If he was hiding he wouldn't tell anyway, they played Astra and Viper a lot on the VCT, I think they are bleffing.
kindereggmodel [#30]numbers dont matter. results do. he played well and his team didnt. we knew he was good, but brazilians talk SOOOOOO highly of mwzera that THERE ARE NO LIMITS TO HOW GOOD HE IS. they say he is "that " goood, yet he cant qual/
tenz also couldn't qualify till he switched teams maybe mwzera has to do that
Mehkek [#34]tenz also couldn't qualify till he switched teams maybe mwzera has to do that
he should. its clear something is wrong
kindereggmodel [#35]he should. its clear something is wrong
kinderegg there is something wrong yes however you simply cannot blame the performance of c9b on tenz nor can you blame the performance of gamelanders on mwzera.
epicgamer [#39]kinderegg there is something wrong yes however you simply cannot blame the performance of c9b on tenz nor can you blame the performance of gamelanders on mwzera.
im not. i just said i cant believe if he is that good that they cant make lan. LOL
kindereggmodel [#40]im not. i just said i cant believe if he is that good that they cant make lan. LOL
in my opinion it was clear that tenz, similar to mwzera was "that good"; however, they saw the results of a tier 2 team.
epicgamer [#41]in my opinion it was clear that tenz, similar to mwzera was "that good"; however, they saw the results of a tier 2 team.
yep.
kindereggmodel [#42]yep.
tf u mean "yep" are you saying tenz is not "that good" due to the performance of his team being sub par??
epicgamer [#41]in my opinion it was clear that tenz, similar to mwzera was "that good"; however, they saw the results of a tier 2 team.
well from what ive seen of mwzera (ie. challengers finals) its fair to say hes not tenz level but its obvious that he has the potential and possibly could be i havent watched enough of him to have a say
epicgamer [#43]tf u mean "yep" are you saying tenz is not "that good" due to the performance of his team being sub par??
no. he is that good. his team just sucked.
Mehkek [#44]well from what ive seen of mwzera (ie. challengers finals) its fair to say hes not tenz level but its obvious that he has the potential and possibly could be i havent watched enough of him to have a say
i agree, however, the notion that this kinderegg guy is putting forward that a solo players skill is based on their team's performance seems to not make any sense in my opinion.
epicgamer [#46]i agree, however, the notion that this kinderegg guy is putting forward that a solo players skill is based on their team's performance seems to not make any sense in my opinion.
solo perfromance is slightly contributed to team play take vanity for example an amazing solo player himself but u give him a team and he can play off of them and make himself look even better
Mehkek [#2]no v1 beat liquid so you have to count that in lol
I think we will see if VKS is better tham V1 today vs SEN
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