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looks like they really made NRG fell off after that champion 2022
0-2 to SA was absurd lost tbh

its because nrg core downgraded from yay to ardiis

Revlo [#2]

its because nrg core downgraded from yay to ardiis

its because chamber got nerfed

I don't think it's that opticrg fell off, you need to think, they lost marved and yay, 2 of arguably the best in their roles in the world when they were lost, and they are still making games incredibly competitive at a high tier 1 level, they aren't down and out, they are just adjusting to their new atmosphere, let them cook imo

Bonkbonk201 [#4]

I don't think it's that opticrg fell off, you need to think, they lost marved and yay, 2 of arguably the best in their roles in the world when they were lost, and they are still making games incredibly competitive at a high tier 1 level, they aren't down and out, they are just adjusting to their new atmosphere, let them cook imo

yeah but it supposed to be upgrade when chamber meta is gone, and ardis more flex, the expectation would be higher isn't it?

Bonkbonk201 [#4]

I don't think it's that opticrg fell off, you need to think, they lost marved and yay, 2 of arguably the best in their roles in the world when they were lost, and they are still making games incredibly competitive at a high tier 1 level, they aren't down and out, they are just adjusting to their new atmosphere, let them cook imo

no dude they 100% fell off. The whole Optic run was a fluke just like acend run. Biggest flukes of international tourneys. They are a fluke even if they lost 2 players!!

Chow1E [#5]

yeah but it supposed to be upgrade when chamber meta is gone, and ardis more flex, the expectation would be higher isn't it?

People don't realise yay was still good when he wasn't using chamber, chamber only made him better, yay was easily on the level of other top duelists at the time, cryo, leaf, jing, forsaken, etc, i say this because even when c9 were falling apart against drx and when they bullied prx, yay was still sitting there positive on agents like sage, someone as consistent as yay no matter the role he's a good fucking player, and he also has better stats on jett than he does on chamber all time, chamber just got him noticed because it played into his playstyle a lot more

2 of their best players left