Zellsis

Will he ever learn how to play Jett?

Hes not like other girls

Ailed [#2]

Hes not like other girls

I would bang, tho

they have leaf

hes such a "Luxury player", cant play any of the main roles properly.
mechanically wise hes pretty decent but you have to play around him

edit: my worse take.
I would like to apologise to zellsis-nation for being so wrong.
he's shown why he deserved to be in franchising based on ingame performance and how he's helped the team off the server.
best of luck in lcq.

capital_d_colon [#5]

hes such a "Luxury player", cant play any of the main roles properly.
mechanically wise hes pretty decent but you have to play around him

edit: my worse take.
I would like to apologise to zellsis-nation for being so wrong.
he's shown why he deserved to be in franchising based on ingame performance and how he's helped the team off the server.
best of luck in lcq.

Basically an anti-meta player.

capital_d_colon [#5]

hes such a "Luxury player", cant play any of the main roles properly.
mechanically wise hes pretty decent but you have to play around him

edit: my worse take.
I would like to apologise to zellsis-nation for being so wrong.
he's shown why he deserved to be in franchising based on ingame performance and how he's helped the team off the server.
best of luck in lcq.

three of his four best agents are kayo raze and KJ what are u on about lol

I don't get why they're still trying Phoenix, such a shit agent

GooberBoy [#7]

three of his four best agents are kayo raze and KJ what are u on about lol

i think his best role would be as an initiator.
being a duelist player while not being able to play jett is trolling.
also switching roles between maps isnt good either (especially when sentinel and duelist play very different)

capital_d_colon [#9]

i think his best role would be as an initiator.
being a duelist player while not being able to play jett is trolling.
also switching roles between maps isnt good either (especially when sentinel and duelist play very different)

is there any actual reasoning for that last quote or is that just your personal opinion because many top level teams and championship winners have had players play multiple roles on multiple maps and be successful. A good half of the best raze players in the world don't play Jett nor do they need to, I don't think it's a problem at all lol.

capital_d_colon [#9]

i think his best role would be as an initiator.
being a duelist player while not being able to play jett is trolling.
also switching roles between maps isnt good either (especially when sentinel and duelist play very different)

dude NAVI switch roles around a lot and they are one of the best teams in the world

GooberBoy [#10]

is there any actual reasoning for that last quote or is that just your personal opinion because many top level teams and championship winners have had players play multiple roles on multiple maps and be successful. A good half of the best raze players in the world don't play Jett nor do they need to, I don't think it's a problem at all lol.

i mean its more of an opinionated point.
but the top teams do have players dedicated to each role, with 1 player that normally fills in the cracks.
alot of the "role swaps" hardly affect the way they play the game in terms of positioning and decisions.
i mean it seems to be working well rn, long term i still think its not as optimal.

zellsis exposed
no duelist no party
can't even play jett

Simon_Digger [#11]

dude NAVI switch roles around a lot and they are one of the best teams in the world

C9 don't have players like shao who can play any role with good stats.

Itsover [#14]

C9 don't have players like shao who can play any role with good stats.

pretty sure leaf has done it on all roles except controller

Simon_Digger [#15]

pretty sure leaf has done it on all roles except controller

Leaf is the best on jett. Zellsis or xeppa playing duelist with leaf in team is just troll

Leaf is more of a jett player than him

capital_d_colon [#12]

i mean its more of an opinionated point.
but the top teams do have players dedicated to each role, with 1 player that normally fills in the cracks.
alot of the "role swaps" hardly affect the way they play the game in terms of positioning and decisions.
i mean it seems to be working well rn, long term i still think its not as optimal.

I mean look at FPX and Optic, two of the three best teams last year who had multiple players playing multiple roles. The only player of those two teams that stayed in one role was Yay. Zellsis not being able to play Jett isn't a problem at all if he's able to play nine agents comfortably over all 4 roles. It's for sure better in the long run to have someone like that instead of a player that only plays within one role. That's literally what ended up being the downfall of Sen and PRX, players that could play 1-2 agents very comfortably but didn't play enough roles to support meta shifts. Zellsis is a meta proof player, how many guys are there in NA that can play well under any meta?
KJ Jett meta he can play KJ or a flash initiator
chamber meta he could play Raze or Kayo(two of the three best agents alongside chamber in that meta)
Double controller meta he can play viper
Double duelist meta he can play literally every duelist but Jett
He would only be fucked if a meta was chamber jett sova centric which doesn't look like it'll happen soon

I really don't see ur argument at all when most historical data and his overall play has dictated the exact opposite of what you're claiming.

Itsover [#16]

Leaf is the best on jett. Zellsis or xeppa playing duelist with leaf in team is just troll

Leaf is also ass at Raze while Zellsis is one of the best in NA. Zellsis literally fits this current squad perfectly because on Raze maps he can play Raze(or Xeppa can and he goes to flex) and on Jett maps he can be a more supportive player which he also does well. They have 2 of the better KJ players on their team who also play the two most important duelists separately. Those two work really well together especially if Leaf is going to continue to play Skye which is the one flash initiator Zellsis doesn't play.

GooberBoy [#19]

Leaf is also ass at Raze while Zellsis is one of the best in NA. Zellsis literally fits this current squad perfectly because on Raze maps he can play Raze(or Xeppa can and he goes to flex) and on Jett maps he can be a more supportive player which he also does well. They have 2 of the better KJ players on their team who also play the two most important duelists separately. Those two work really well together especially if Leaf is going to continue to play Skye which is the one flash initiator Zellsis doesn't play.

Xeppa’s a better raze than Zellsis imo

Danny [#20]

Xeppa’s a better raze than Zellsis imo

I mean historically that's not true at all

I know Xeppaa has some pretty clean movement but he's a much better initiator than he is duelist.