He fell off hard after fnatic
DIEM [#5]So he went from Fnatic to tier 2 EMEA, then to free agent. After, goes to tier 2 SA, which is pretty much Tier 3 or lower in EMEA
tier 2 SA is like immortal lobby of the rest of the world
moatz [#6]A lot of eu players r like that. Doma, Kiles, Bonecold, Mistic etc.
mistic isnt bad at all,kiles was never on so idk how he can fall off,and bonecold is in franchising
asdfgh [#8]mistic isnt bad at all,kiles was never on so idk how he can fall off,and bonecold is in franchising
kiles was never on so idk how he can fall off
Unless ur saying that Acend was just cNed and friends, saying a champions winner was nvr on is crazy
moatz [#11]kiles was never on so idk how he can fall off
Unless ur saying that Acend was just cNed and friends, saying a champions winner was nvr on is crazy
he was never good he was like the zombs of acendt,and zeek was carrying acend way harder than cned in champs
Mortadelo [#14]5 players from the French VCL are now franchised
Surely its because they are 5 of the best players in the world and not because there arent enough T1 players in EMEA + guaranteed spots on French orgs
Bottom ranked T2 NA team would shitstomp the best french VRL team you could make zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
babysasuke [#16]Surely its because they are 5 of the best players in the world and not because there arent enough T1 players in EMEA + guaranteed spots on French orgs
Bottom ranked T2 NA team would shitstomp the best french VRL team you could make zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
You'll be able to hate whenever NA gets a team into playoffs, until then go ahead and shut up
Mortadelo [#17]You'll be able to hate whenever NA gets a team into playoffs, until then go ahead and shut up
Not hating, just not brainwashed
Turtle Troop and MxM would clear any iteration of any French VRL team and it wouldn't be close
whenever NA gets a team into playoffs
Which ex-French VRL player is making FREEMEA playoffs, btw?
asdfgh [#12]he was never good he was like the zombs of acendt,and zeek was carrying acend way harder than cned in champs
Kryptix, L1nk, Yacine, Braveaf
babysasuke [#18]Not hating, just not brainwashed
Turtle Troop and MxM would clear any iteration of any French VRL team and it wouldn't be close
whenever NA gets a team into playoffs
Which ex-French VRL player is making FREEMEA playoffs, btw?
Bonecold world champion
asdfgh [#22]the only one i consider fell of was l1nk
Kryptix too. Remember when he was on Liquid?
https://www.vlr.gg/16836/team-liquid-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-stage-2-emea-challengers-playoffs-gf
https://www.vlr.gg/16826/funplus-phoenix-vs-team-liquid-champions-tour-stage-2-emea-challengers-playoffs-winners-a
https://www.vlr.gg/16829/bbl-esports-vs-team-liquid-champions-tour-stage-2-emea-challengers-playoffs-opening-b
moatz [#23]Kryptix too. Remember when he was on Liquid?
https://www.vlr.gg/16836/team-liquid-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-stage-2-emea-challengers-playoffs-gf
https://www.vlr.gg/16826/funplus-phoenix-vs-team-liquid-champions-tour-stage-2-emea-challengers-playoffs-winners-a
https://www.vlr.gg/16829/bbl-esports-vs-team-liquid-champions-tour-stage-2-emea-challengers-playoffs-opening-b
wow man you found 3 games where he played good,he was always considered the weakest link in liquid he simply got kicked and went to tier 2 where he played okay,dont know how that falling off again,ur just naming random decent emea players who dont play in franchising anymore lol
asdfgh [#24]wow man you found 3 games where he played good,he was always considered the weakest link in liquid he simply got kicked and went to tier 2 where he played okay,dont know how that falling off again,ur just naming random decent emea players who dont play in franchising anymore lol
wow man you found 3 games where he played good,
do u want me to find 3 games where he played bad? like what?
im obv gonna pick games that support my point. i also chose games against good teams like fnc and fpx
he simply got kicked and went to tier 2
dont play in franchising anymore
This is literally what falling off is
moatz [#25]wow man you found 3 games where he played good,
do u want me to find 3 games where he played bad? like what?
im obv gonna pick games that support my point. i also chose games against good teams like fnc and fpxhe simply got kicked and went to tier 2
dont play in franchising anymoreThis is literally what falling off is
Loads of NA players fell off too, whats the big deal. Why are Shahzam, Dapr in T2? Where is zombs, jammyz? Effys? Penny and moose are in t2 too just like kiles doma mistic etc
wizardbot [#27]Loads of NA players fell off too, whats the big deal. Why are Shahzam, Dapr in T2? Where is zombs, jammyz? Effys? Penny and moose are in t2 too just like kiles doma mistic etc
shahz dapr and zombs didnt fall off they just suck kkkkkkkkk
and v1 has always been t2
zidmz [#28]shahz dapr and zombs didnt fall off they just suck kkkkkkkkk
and v1 has always been t2
And kryptix, kiles, mistic have never been that great too? Thats literally what im saying
wizardbot [#29]And kryptix, kiles, mistic have never been that great too? Thats literally what im saying
ohhh yeah
wizardbot [#27]Loads of NA players fell off too, whats the big deal. Why are Shahzam, Dapr in T2? Where is zombs, jammyz? Effys? Penny and moose are in t2 too just like kiles doma mistic etc
Yea but a few na players falling off doesn't change the fact that 99.9% of eu players have or will fall off
moatz [#31]Yea but a few na players falling off doesn't change the fact that 99.9% of eu players have or will fall off
NA players who played LANs in 2021:
Shahzam, Zombs, Tenz, SicK, Dapr, Marved, Nitro, Asuna, Hiko, Ethan, Crashies, Jammyz, Effys, Penny, Vanity, Steel, FNS, Yay, Victor, Xeppa, Leaf, Mitch, Xeta
Players who are now in Franchising: 10/24= 41 percent
EU players who played LANs in 2021:
Derke, Mistic, Doma, Boaster, Kryptix, Scream, Nivera, Soulcas, Jamppi, L1NK, D3ffo, Nats, Redgar, Sheydos, Chronicles, Magnum, Kiles, Bonecold, Zeek, Cned, Starxo, Russ, Mixwell, Koldamenta, Avova, Nukkye, Keloqz, paura, izzy, turko, brave
Players who are now in Franchising: 19/31= 61 percent
NT
zidmz [#28]shahz dapr and zombs didnt fall off they just suck kkkkkkkkk
and v1 has always been t2
"and v1 has always been t2". prime v1 was able to beat every NA challengers team convincingly
Mortadelo [#4]You clearly did not see him last year. Give him time
true, his runs at t2 EMEA were very successful.
Mortadelo [#17]You'll be able to hate whenever NA gets a team into playoffs, until then go ahead and shut up
NA catching strays from Mortadelo 😭😭
wizardbot [#32]NA players who played LANs in 2021:
Shahzam, Zombs, Tenz, SicK, Dapr, Marved, Nitro, Asuna, Hiko, Ethan, Crashies, Jammyz, Effys, Penny, Vanity, Steel, FNS, Yay, Victor, Xeppa, Leaf, Mitch, XetaPlayers who are now in Franchising: 10/24= 41 percent
EU players who played LANs in 2021:
Derke, Mistic, Doma, Boaster, Kryptix, Scream, Nivera, Soulcas, Jamppi, L1NK, D3ffo, Nats, Redgar, Sheydos, Chronicles, Magnum, Kiles, Bonecold, Zeek, Cned, Starxo, Russ, Mixwell, Koldamenta, Avova, Nukkye, Keloqz, paura, izzy, turko, bravePlayers who are now in Franchising: 19/31= 61 percent
NT
Sick, Nitro, Hiko???
SicK - Mental Health Issues
Nitro & Hiko - Retiring is not the same thing as falling off 😹😹😹
moatz [#36]Sick, Nitro, Hiko???
SicK - Mental Health Issues
Nitro & Hiko - Retiring is not the same thing as falling off 😹😹😹
10/21= 47 percent. Happy lil bro?
wizardbot [#37]10/21= 47 percent. Happy lil bro?
No because u listed 31 players but only divided by 30 which tells me u trying to skew the data in favor of eu
babysasuke [#16]Surely its because they are 5 of the best players in the world and not because there arent enough T1 players in EMEA + guaranteed spots on French orgs
Bottom ranked T2 NA team would shitstomp the best french VRL team you could make zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Didn't you get silenced by Chronicle 🤫
moatz [#38]No because u listed 31 players but only divided by 30 which tells me u trying to skew the data in favor of eu
and you listed completely normal players who were never expected to do anything great and now they have "fell off" because they dont play at the level no one expected them to
babysasuke [#16]Surely its because they are 5 of the best players in the world and not because there arent enough T1 players in EMEA + guaranteed spots on French orgs
Bottom ranked T2 NA team would shitstomp the best french VRL team you could make zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Unlike the very top top NA teams who can't even get to double digits and got fucking assraped by fnatic. EMEA tier2 can put up a fight.
Etc SBG would be able to get 14-15 rounds in a bo2.
Sentinels? 13.
100T? 11.
G2/FaZe? About 1, and that's assuming they win a fluke pistol.
asdfgh [#40]and you listed completely normal players who were never expected to do anything great and now they have "fell off" because they dont play at the level no one expected them to
and you listed completely normal players who were never expected to do anything great
this is literally every eu player though kkkkkkkkkkk
moatz [#11]kiles was never on so idk how he can fall off
Unless ur saying that Acend was just cNed and friends, saying a champions winner was nvr on is crazy
Kiles was never on, yes, look at his stats at champs, that fracture in the finals was the biggest cypher diff ever at the international level, literally 400+ ACS vs 40 ACS
hekzy [#42]Unlike the very top top NA teams who can't even get to double digits and got fucking assraped by fnatic. EMEA tier2 can put up a fight.
Etc SBG would be able to get 14-15 rounds in a bo2.
Sentinels? 13.
100T? 11.
G2/FaZe? About 1, and that's assuming they win a fluke pistol.
Gonna cry?
ry666 [#45]still better than indian vct combined
Thats a weird way to spell Indonesian* but all good I fixed it for you.
moatz [#46]and you listed completely normal players who were never expected to do anything great
this is literally every eu player though kkkkkkkkkkk
suygetsu,shao,cned,leo,chronicle,nats,trexx,sheydos,derke,alfajer,sayf,twisten,zeek,nukkye,cloud?
moatz [#38]No because u listed 31 players but only divided by 30 which tells me u trying to skew the data in favor of eu
I actually divided by 31 lmao, I wrote 30 by mistake. You can check, doesnt matter anyway whatever you say can be countered by logic. Shit trolling
babysasuke [#18]Not hating, just not brainwashed
Turtle Troop and MxM would clear any iteration of any French VRL team and it wouldn't be close
whenever NA gets a team into playoffs
Which ex-French VRL player is making FREEMEA playoffs, btw?
Bonker clears
CorpseParty23 [#49]Thats a weird way to spell Indonesian* but all good I fixed it for you.
Indonesia means Indian islands
YeaUrMum [#48]Gonna cry?
I just witnessed my favourite team assrape all of NA. Yes, I'm gonna cry...
Tears of joy.
wizardbot [#51]I actually divided by 31 lmao, I wrote 30 by mistake. You can check, doesnt matter anyway whatever you say can be countered by logic. Shit trolling
You can check
U divided by 30 but literally edited it 13 hrs ago. Anything u say can be countered by basic math.
moatz [#55]You can check
U divided by 30 but literally edited it 13 hrs ago. Anything u say can be countered by basic math.
I wrote 30 instead of 31 by accident, I didn't actually divide by 30. Yk what I write on vlr doesnt actually convert it into percent write? Divide 19 by 31, it will be 61 percent, divide by 19 by 30 it will be 63 percent. I wrote 61 percent from the start. Just take the L zzzz
Mortadelo [#17]You'll be able to hate whenever NA gets a team into playoffs, until then go ahead and shut up
Basado