In a showmatch. Are we still worried about other games 😹
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supernova [#4]showmatch bigger than IEM Katowice kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
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-Supernova The King of Valorant
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supernova [#4]showmatch bigger than IEM Katowice kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
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-Supernova The King of Valorant
LMFAAAAAAAO
BoF7ooM [#7]+copium
truthfully idc about these viewership comparisons but it seems so weird to me to boast about viewership when there’s drops
CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer [#10]Source? im interetsed
Yeah where do they get 800k from. From eSports chart there's only 730k
Gyro [#11]and why is that a bad thing?
love that the riot unlike valve is heavily involved in comp scene , drops is goood for viewers tooppl like u only complain
I didn’t say it’s a bad thing. My point is that it artificially boosts viewership. It’s a good thing that Riot wants to bring more attention to the esports scene though.
Prathades [#12]Yeah where do they get 800k from. From eSports chart there's only 730k
731k from YT main and Twitch only. YT has a lot more channels. Japan alone 23k, 10k from some indian streams, 50k brazil yt lol
BoF7ooM [#15]731k from YT main and Twitch only. YT has a lot more channels. Japan alone 23k, 10k from some indian streams, 50k brazil yt lol
use escharts for accurate stats
gamr [#16]use escharts for accurate stats
escharts only uses twitch most of the time. Its usually less accurate as they dont count yt properly, and they dont show which platforms they are counting on.
supernova [#4]showmatch bigger than IEM Katowice kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
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-Supernova The King of Valorant
LMAO
BoF7ooM [#15]731k from YT main and Twitch only. YT has a lot more channels. Japan alone 23k, 10k from some indian streams, 50k brazil yt lol
It's not from the main channel only. Streamer and other channel such as br from both twitch and YouTube are already accounted from. The only unaccounted is from website like bilibili or illegal streamer that doesn't have riot permission
supernova [#4]showmatch bigger than IEM Katowice kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
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-Supernova The King of Valorant
NO WAY LMFAOOOOO
Prathades [#19]It's not from the main channel only. Streamer and other channel such as br from both twitch and YouTube are already accounted from. The only unaccounted is from website like bilibili or illegal streamer that doesn't have riot permission
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=valorant+&sp=CAMSAkAB
Count it yourself
BoF7ooM [#17]escharts only uses twitch most of the time. Its usually less accurate as they dont count yt properly, and they dont show which platforms they are counting on.
You seem to know more than I do. Can you explain why they don’t count YT properly? Escharts claims to account for every major streaming platform besides bilibili
BoF7ooM [#21]https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=valorant+&sp=CAMSAkAB
Count it yourself
Not all of them are vct. I counted and there's only 157k for vct
gamr [#22]You seem to know more than I do. Can you explain why they don’t count YT properly? Escharts claims to account for every major streaming platform besides bilibili
idk man just count it yourself if you dont believe me
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=valorant+&sp=CAMSAkAB
Prathades [#23]Not all of them are vct. I counted and there's only 157k for vct
yup, add it with 700K, or 650K if you're feeling pressed.
BoF7ooM [#25]yup, add it with 700K, or 650K if you're feeling pressed.
On twitch there's only 560k where's the extra 100k came from?
BoF7ooM [#24]idk man just count it yourself if you dont believe me
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=valorant+&sp=CAMSAkAB
Ok so you don’t actually know, you just assumed based off of those viewer counts? I’m more inclined to believe in escharts’ algorithm because they know something I don’t
Prathades [#26]On twitch there's only 560k where's the extra 100k came from?
You gotta be trolling man, I wont reply to you.
gamr [#27]Ok so you don’t actually know, you just assumed based off of those viewer counts? I’m more inclined to believe in escharts’ algorithm because they know something I don’t
so you dont know how to count?
supernova [#4]showmatch bigger than IEM Katowice kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
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-Supernova The King of Valorant
Bro just roasted whole csgo with this
BoF7ooM [#30]so you dont know how to count?
ok bro 170k on YouTube like 600k on twitch, I counted and ur still wrong man
supernova [#4]showmatch bigger than IEM Katowice kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
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-Supernova The King of Valorant
LMAO
gamr [#32]ok bro 170k on YouTube like 600k on twitch, I counted and ur still wrong man
so youre telling me 15 viewers streams make it 100K 😹😹😹 Couldnt be more American
meteorite [#35]lmao what cope sen vs fnatic was bigger than katowice and that isn't even a semifinal XDDDDDDD
Seems weird to even compare the two. LOCK//IN is a bigger tournament than Katowice. If anything, LOCK//IN is more like a major or Cologne
BoF7ooM [#34]so youre telling me 15 viewers streams make it 100K 😹😹😹 Couldnt be more American
what are you talking about
meteorite [#35]lmao what cope sen vs fnatic was bigger than katowice and that isn't even a semifinal XDDDDDDD
valorant need to beat cs record first , imagine happy with 800k viewership
gamr [#32]ok bro 170k on YouTube like 600k on twitch, I counted and ur still wrong man
american math, cant even use "SUM" 170+600k = 770k ("almost 800k" title )
sRossi_D_Grinder [#39]american math, cant even use "SUM" 170+600k = 770k ("almost 800k" title )
no need to round up, just say 770k or 700k
Nafis [#38]valorant need to beat cs record first , imagine happy with 800k viewership
CS FELL OFF WE DON'T NEED TO WORRY XDDD
gamr [#40]no need to round up, just say 770k or 700k
well 770k is close to 800k as the title say, so??
gamr [#9]truthfully idc about these viewership comparisons but it seems so weird to me to boast about viewership when there’s drops
ubisoft, blizzard valve also does the same thing lel but are u sure a fucking dad hat really gives others incentive to watch cause that's kinda pitiful cause its mid than the sparkbuddies that they used to give
in the invitational they used to give out whole operator bundles and it didn't really reach the viewership tbh
I think its more that brazil and emea are really out here to support their teams
tuxmko [#43]ubisoft, blizzard valve also does the same thing lel but are u sure a fucking dad hat really gives others incentive to watch cause that's kinda pitiful cause its mid than the sparkbuddies that they used to give
in the invitational they used to give out whole operator bundles and it didn't really reach the viewership tbh
I think its more that brazil and emea are really out here to support their teams
how does valve do that? blizzard definitely does and its extremely pitiful from them ngl
gamr [#44]how does valve do that? blizzard definitely does and its extremely pitiful from them ngl
they give drop souvenir cases for valuable skins that had actual monetary value latest one was in the rio major
dad hats and a measley title are not worth anything tho all cosmetic , i still believe its cause of support of LOUD
meteorite [#41]CS FELL OFF WE DON'T NEED TO WORRY XDDD
I mean even at its worst (Rio major), it still peaked at 1.4 mil. I’d say that’s pretty impressive considering it was only slightly under LOUD vs Optic at Champs (which is the most viewed match at lock//in as well)
tuxmko [#46]they give drop souvenir cases for valuable skins that had actual monetary value latest one was in the rio major
dad hats and a measley title are not worth anything tho all cosmetic , i still believe its cause of support of LOUD
They stopped doing souvenir case drops 4 years ago.
tuxmko [#46]they give drop souvenir cases for valuable skins that had actual monetary value latest one was in the rio major
dad hats and a measley title are not worth anything tho all cosmetic , i still believe its cause of support of LOUD
u could literally get atleast free 1k if u pulled a m4s skin from a souvenier package and its for a 2022 case
gamr [#49]They stopped doing souvenir case drops 4 years ago.
they still do case drops https://www.csgodatabase.com/souvenir-packages/rio-2022-vertigo-souvenir-package/
tuxmko [#51]they still do case drops https://www.csgodatabase.com/souvenir-packages/rio-2022-vertigo-souvenir-package/
Those are not drops. Those are rewards for completing missions in the major viewer pass. Has nothing to do with watching the games.
gamr [#52]Those are not drops. Those are rewards for completing missions in the major viewer pass. Has nothing to do with watching the games.
still gave major incentive to watch the tourney, the amount of monetary value u could get from those which benefits the tourney compared a couple dad hats and title pales in comparison
tuxmko [#53]still gave major incentive to watch the tourney, the amount of monetary value u could get from those which benefits the tourney compared a couple dad hats and title pales in comparison
How does it incentivize watching the major? You keep failing to explain
gamr [#54]How does it incentivize watching the major? You keep failing to explain
u do pickems to hope ur team wins, u watch while u get high blood pressure while u hope u get it right while also contributing to the prizepool? u get these points and use them for drop cases and hope u get a high value skin
again ill say again, the amount of monetary value u could get from those which benefits the tourney compared a couple dad hats and title pales in comparison
gamr [#48]I mean even at its worst (Rio major), it still peaked at 1.4 mil. I’d say that’s pretty impressive considering it was only slightly under LOUD vs Optic at Champs (which is the most viewed match at lock//in as well)
csgo peak was 2.7 mil in 2021 stockholm major the viewership has only gone down hill since while valo has increased every year
meteorite [#56]csgo peak was 2.7 mil in 2021 stockholm major the viewership has only gone down hill since while valo has increased every year
it only fell off in the same way that every esport did cuz of COVID becoming less of a problem. IEM Cologne reached the highest viewership of all colognes, and rio is rio, there were no good teams in playoffs so viewership was low. it would be the same if only underdogs made playoffs at LOCK IN.
gamr [#57]it only fell off in the same way that every esport did cuz of COVID becoming less of a problem. IEM Cologne reached the highest viewership of all colognes, and rio is rio, there were no good teams in playoffs so viewership was low. it would be the same if only underdogs made playoffs at LOCK IN.
this is a giga cope lmfao. cs fell off hard along with dota which was even worse than csgo. league hit its highest peak ever in 2022 along with val.dota dropped to 1.75mil from 2.7 and cs to 2.1 mil from 2.7
meteorite [#58]this is a giga cope lmfao. cs fell off hard along with dota which was even worse than csgo. league hit its highest peak ever in 2022 along with val.dota dropped to 1.75mil from 2.7 and cs to 2.1 mil from 2.7
league shouldn't be compared with any other esport. val faced the same drop at copenhagen that cs did at rio. this is what happens when unpopular teams make the grand finals of the biggest stage.
gamr [#59]league shouldn't be compared with any other esport. val faced the same drop at copenhagen that cs did at rio. this is what happens when unpopular teams make the grand finals of the biggest stage.
why shouldn't league be compared just cuz it doesn't fit your cope lmao? cs 2022 antwerp was their most viewed major with 2.1 mil viewers and had massively popular teams in the finals.didn't come close to stockholm (600k viewers drop).valorant also hit its highest peak in champions consistently growing. cs is in a downward trajectory its as simple as tha.funfact the average viewership of antwerp major final was 1.1mil despite having a 2.1mil peak compared to val which had a 1.2mil average with a 1.5 mil peak showing much higher retention
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