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JP not dead. Pacific good, actually

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spookmeister

Except for maybe China (and a tiny tiny minority of APAC/KR) none of Asia has the tac fps experience to make good IGL’s and coaches.
Look at the successful teams:
DRX: core used to be Koreas only decent CS team
PRX: Benkai, the IGL, was a cs player that had qualled to S tier events, no majors though
Zeta: edit: all of players were ex CS players, AFAIK Ex- Absolute Jupiter CS
Now let’s look at recently successful teams.
TS:
Pre-Warbirds: incredibly mediocre, flourished before anyone really had great stratbooks in APAC, and dropped off soon afterwards
Warbirds: Now, with a good coach from a region with plenty of experience in tac fps, team is playing beautifully with discipline and thought out plays

Gen.G: not sure idk, k1ng was old VS player also head coach is OCE which def has more experience than kr in cs at least

(Reminder I’m not looking anything up this is just prior knowledge if I’m wrong about something then tell me)

Asia has plenty of fantastic mechanical skill but much of the region simply does not have the experience needed to make good calls as an igl/coach, which is more important in val than mechanics
I think DFM, T1 (at least what we’ve seen so far), and other pacific teams are good examples
Mechanics are all there, simply no deep experience in the genre for calls (especially for mid round calls based on intuition and experience) and strats

TLDR: pacific teams other than proven ones like PRX/DRX are actually good, they just don’t have the foundation and experience in tacfps to build off of for good IGL’ing and coaching. With proper coaching and mindset these teams will play fantastically, as shown by TS

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Nahbooo
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About benkai not true i think

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spookmeister
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Nahbooo [#2]

About benkai not true i think

idk someone told me that 💀
I will check Liquipedia/hltv in a second

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W

why did you leave the TS: line blank though

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kyvaire
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spookmeister [#3]

idk someone told me that 💀
I will check Liquipedia/hltv in a second

he qualified for s tier events but not majors

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OG zeta (absolute jupiter) had exp players from cs but was suck

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kyvaire [#5]

he qualified for s tier events but not majors

Yeah; just looked. 100% played well in CS- just not major qual well

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ZETA players + DFM Reita/Takej was Absolute Jupiter CS team pre sure

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Ullyr
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zeta core started with players from csgo japan team absolute. They are the team with the most tactical fps experience tbh.

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spookmeister
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Subreezy [#4]

W

why did you leave the TS: line blank though

TS’s coach is Warbirds. There are two small bits underneath TS about how they did before him and with him
I didn’t put them right after “TS” because it would have looked odd with the two mini paragraphs separated

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spookmeister
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valulrantefanboy [#6]

OG zeta (absolute jupiter) had exp players from cs but was suck

Fixed

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spookmeister [#10]

TS’s coach is Warbirds. There are two small bits underneath TS about how they did before him and with him
I didn’t put them right after “TS” because it would have looked odd with the two mini paragraphs separated

OHHHH i see
sick name for a coach though, had no clue that was his name

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spookmeister
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Subreezy [#12]

OHHHH i see
sick name for a coach though, had no clue that was his name

He is NA import (from t2 team lol)
TS is secretly NA team they just do not tell you that
T2 NA > Botquid

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Subreezy
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spookmeister [#13]

He is NA import (from t2 team lol)
TS is secretly NA team they just do not tell you that
T2 NA > Botquid

oh shit he was the renegades coach from a few years ago, cool to seem him on a franchised team doing well
just cause of that i hope TS makes it really far, i love seeing T1 franchised teams taking a chance on unknown talent

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VariableStar
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Talon too their core is still x10/xerxia.

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spookmeister [#3]

idk someone told me that 💀
I will check Liquipedia/hltv in a second

PRX was a whole cs team except for jingg lol

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We will see how many NA teams qualify for the lock in

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spookmeister
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BattleCry [#17]

We will see how many NA teams qualify for the lock in

what?

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