The Original Guard Fan on DSG

I mighttttt have to support DSG in ascension. TGRD will always be my true love, but the DSG run was so fucking awesome to watch. Watching a group of motley players no one expected to even make challengers qualify SECOND out of all teams in open quals? That's my kinda cinderella run! I don't think they'll win ascension, hell I think it's likely they'll get slapped around, but I'll still root for them :)

Also it was awesome to see Toast get so excited and proud of his team. We need more people like him in the Valorant scene (and their viewership plsss).

Between his decision to take the leap, Ocean’s incredible scouting, and the hard work of all the players (Exalt, Gengsta, Xxif, Clear, and Steel (god I never thought I would be praising steel but this dedication made me like him much more)), it was an amazing cinderella run.

Remember when people were going on about how we would never get exciting open qualifier runs anymore in franchising? Huh.

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In fact these runs are even better because they don't jeprodize the tier 1 scene by havning more flukey teams make it! And I'd say the hype behind this qualifier was just as much if not more than that around the orginal tier 1 NA open qualifications for the group stages last year.

gamr [#3]

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? What's your deal?

zardinez [#2]

Between his decision to take the leap, Ocean’s incredible scouting, and the hard work of all the players (Exalt, Gengsta, Xxif, Clear, and Steel (god I never thought I would be praising steel but this dedication made me like him much more)), it was an amazing cinderella run.

Remember when people were going on about how we would never get exciting open qualifier runs anymore in franchising? Huh.

bruv 90% of people were expecting them qualifying, they were just hating on the team because of steel
and "incredible scouting" seriously :skull: all the players in the team are one of the best in their roles, maybe except exalt but he proved himself

andrewdamf [#6]

bruv 90% of people were expecting them qualifying, they were just hating on the team because of steel
and "incredible scouting" seriously :skull: all the players in the team are one of the best in their roles, maybe except exalt but he proved himself

ok mr debbie downer over here. Scouting isn't just identifying good players; it's also convincing them to want to join the team (which Ocean DID). More than that, are you really telling me steel, exalt, xxif, and gengsta were even considered in the conversation for "best in their roles" in NA before this qualifier?

I love you Zardinez
Now who is your t1 team for you

zardinez [#5]

? What's your deal?

can't be dipping on the guard.

zardinez [#7]

ok mr debbie downer over here. Scouting isn't just identifying good players; it's also convincing them to want to join the team (which Ocean DID). More than that, are you really telling me steel, exalt, xxif, and gengsta were even considered in the conversation for "best in their roles" in NA before this qualifier?

are you an AI? theres no such thing as "convincing" a player to join their team
they see their teammates, the contract and decide if they want it or not, + being a team made by a streamer was a boost to make them highlight more
and yes, there are some people better but they are all atleast top 10

Mjtchell [#8]

I love you Zardinez
Now who is your t1 team for you

Love you too Mjtchell!

Probably C9 because Yay was always one of my favorite players and MCE is obv my favorite coach. But I'm not entirely sure yet, I'll need to see some more at kick off before I truly decide. In the Americas t1, I also really like Zekken, Sacy, Ardiis (bc he's funny af), BCJ, and MikesHD tho. Oh and Sayaplayer in T1 naturally (excited to see them THIS WEEKEND WOOOO).

zardinez [#11]

Love you too Mjtchell!

Probably C9 because Yay was always one of my favorite players and MCE is obv my favorite coach. But I'm not entirely sure yet, I'll need to see some more at kick off before I truly decide. In the Americas t1, I also really like Zekken, Sacy, Ardiis (bc he's funny af), BCJ, and MikesHD tho. Oh and Sayaplayer in T1 naturally (excited to see them THIS WEEKEND WOOOO).

:(

andrewdamf [#10]

are you an AI? theres no such thing as "convincing" a player to join their team
they see their teammates, the contract and decide if they want it or not, + being a team made by a streamer was a boost to make them highlight more
and yes, there are some people better but they are all atleast top 10

I forgot how baity vlr can be tbh. Ty for reminding me.

Mjtchell [#12]

:(

Why :( !!

gamr [#9]

can't be dipping on the guard.

It's not wrong to root for someone in t1 over a challengers team? Also I really like MCE sooo

zardinez [#13]

I forgot how baity vlr can be tbh. Ty for reminding me.

im not baiting youre just saying bullshit

zardinez [#14]

Why :( !!

How you gonna not support 100T after the run they made at LCQ
Thats like right up your alley

andrewdamf [#16]

im not baiting youre just saying bullshit

I could bother arguing with you, but I'm trying to be positive here and support the players and staff who just went on an awesome run I didn't expect. Also realize the pros read this every once and a while and I'd rather they come away happy than sad. You don't gotta hate on shit for no reason man!

zardinez [#18]

I could bother arguing with you, but I'm trying to be positive here and support the players and staff who just went on an awesome run I didn't expect. Also realize the pros read this every once and a while and I'd rather they come away happy than sad. You don't gotta hate on shit for no reason man!

lmfao i literally said all of them are top 10 players and im hating
youre clearly missing some braincells there, but yeah no reason to argue
youre obviously an ai

Mjtchell [#17]

How you gonna not support 100T after the run they made at LCQ
Thats like right up your alley

Mjtchell you KNOW I respect the hell out of 100T. They're an awesome team and MikesHD is one of my fav coaches. I know they're gonna do great things in VCT. That being said, they just don't quite get my fire burning like TGRD used to and DSG just did!

But! If they play amazingly at kickoff and are the last NA team standing (and aren't against paper rex or someone else I love), I will wear their flair with pride for the rest of the tournament.

andrewdamf [#19]

lmfao i literally said all of them are top 10 players and im hating
youre clearly missing some braincells there, but yeah no reason to argue
youre obviously an ai

Dude look at what you wrote. I said, "I'm super happy for the players and ocean, they did great!!", and you went "nah ocean's scouting wasn't great, besides everyone expected them to win, it's not that impressive"

Nobody likes that energy, I hope you don't bring it irl.

zardinez [#21]

Dude look at what you wrote. I said, "I'm super happy for the players and ocean, they did great!!", and you went "nah ocean's scouting wasn't great, besides everyone expected them to win, it's not that impressive"

Nobody likes that energy, I hope you don't bring it irl.

i didnt say that, i said it is an obvious scouting because they were the best F/A players he couldve picked up. and therefore it isnt impressive as youre trying to make, also i like ocean.
i also didnt say it wasnt a impressive run, its just not the same thing in any form to the guard run or a cinderella run in general

maybe take reading comprehension exercises? it will help

andrewdamf [#22]

i didnt say that, i said it is an obvious scouting because they were the best F/A players he couldve picked up. and therefore it isnt impressive as youre trying to make, also i like ocean.
i also didnt say it wasnt a impressive run, its just not the same thing in any form to the guard run or a cinderella run in general

maybe take reading comprehension exercises? it will help

You're not getting my point; I don't care about the semantics of this argument. What I care about is making you understand that it's ok to be impresed by and happy for some people who achieved something without always comparing them to other people's achievements you view as better.

I loved the guard run and I love this run. I appreciated the hard work of the guard players and MCE then and I appreciate the hard work of the dsg players and Ocean now. That is all.

zardinez [#20]

Mjtchell you KNOW I respect the hell out of 100T. They're an awesome team and MikesHD is one of my fav coaches. I know they're gonna do great things in VCT. That being said, they just don't quite get my fire burning like TGRD used to and DSG just did!

But! If they play amazingly at kickoff and are the last NA team standing (and aren't against paper rex or someone else I love), I will wear their flair with pride for the rest of the tournament.

<3
Im holding you to it

zardinez [#23]

You're not getting my point; I don't care about the semantics of this argument. What I care about is making you understand that it's ok to be impresed by and happy for some people who achieved something without always comparing them to other people's achievements you view as better.

I loved the guard run and I love this run. I appreciated the hard work of the guard players and MCE then and I appreciate the hard work of the dsg players and Ocean now. That is all.

i already understand that, literally never said its wrong to support them. however, youre just saying delusional things as if thats true and still trying to be right.
stop contradicting yourself in every sentence and twisting my words

got from: "ocean insane scouting! noone thought they would win!"
to: you are hating and im just supporting

"who achieved something without always comparing them to other people's achievements you view as better."
hilarious, because steel did this multiple times in his career and even to random people just because he gets mad.

Mjtchell [#24]

<3
Im holding you to it

As you should!