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#1
Obelisk

Whats your guys opinion on KOI before they got into Franchising i thought they were a pretty good T2 that could compete in VCT but woudnt really win anything major.

They played in the VRL Rising Spain but sadly came bottom in groups and then showed up for 2 matches against Leviatan and KRU Esports and nearly qualified for Reb Bull but lost to BIG in GF.

Their roster around this time was:

Famsii
MAGNUM
PHYRN
neptuNo
Sacake

After Franchising was announced KOI was the last team to announce their new roster and has only signed and announced 4 while the 5th hasnt be we already know who that is.

Their new roster is:

koldamenta
sheydos
trexx
Wolfen
starxo

#2
Qwertyy
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top 10 emea

#3
n1cf
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Qwertyy [#2]

top 10 emea

they better than c9 lil bro

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G2ShahZaM
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5th IN EMEA at best

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Obelisk
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G2ShahZaM [#4]

5th IN EMEA at best

tru

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moatz
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Tier 1 emea, Tier 2 na

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koromast
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rogue joined koi and then that roster got a huge upgrade in tactics idk if that has something to do with it but it seems they were fine, also cant really count matches against lev/kru as achievements at the end of the day they didnt have their entire roster because both teams played with 2 stand-ins

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koromast [#7]

rogue joined koi and then that roster got a huge upgrade in tactics idk if that has something to do with it but it seems they were fine, also cant really count matches against lev/kru as achievements at the end of the day they didnt have their entire roster because both teams played with 2 stand-ins

i mean in a way you can and also no beating the teams still is a achievement even if they didnt have full roster

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koromast
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Obelisk [#8]

i mean in a way you can and also no beating the teams still is a achievement even if they didnt have full roster

koi also played with a stand-in and it was a showmatch i mean they tried and everything but i dont think it was competitive at all imo.

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Uxind
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Very underrated.
Potentially the best roster in EMEA

#11
Dokka
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Most underrated roster in franchising

#12
redlight
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A very underrated team. It’s basically Guild reinvented but with a better flex, a somewhat worse initiator, and a hidden gem.

My favourite EMEA partnership team for sure.

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queueK
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the roster has a lot of experience and room for growth. im just not confident that koldamenta is a top franchise igl. I'm sure he will help develop the roster but I think that will be the limiting factor for this iteration of KOI.

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Bronze-Smurf
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moatz [#6]

Tier 1 emea, Tier 2 na

and Tier 3 SA

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Valgod
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Probably gonna be bad at brazil because they couldn't even scrim until now, but could peak high at the end of the year

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Uxind
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Valgod [#15]

Probably gonna be bad at brazil because they couldn't even scrim until now, but could peak high at the end of the year

Wait why couldn't they scrim?

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koromast
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Uxind [#16]

Wait why couldn't they scrim?

starxo didnt had a real chance due to acend doesnt letting him till his contract with them ends (it ended 1st january so he could be fine now)

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redlight [#12]

A very underrated team. It’s basically Guild reinvented but with a better flex, a somewhat worse initiator, and a hidden gem.

My favourite EMEA partnership team for sure.

is trexx the hidden gem? or you referring to wolfen? (many people underrating him imo because his talent and mechanics are top tier and barbarr will likely turn him into a great player if he listens or in worse case, into a above mid tier sentinel).

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danii1
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G2ShahZaM [#4]

5th IN EMEA at best

You're severely underrating this roster. They can be the top contenders in EMEA in my opinion

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Mortadelo
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Obelisk [#8]

i mean in a way you can and also no beating the teams still is a achievement even if they didnt have full roster

Actually scary because Sacake couldn’t play those games because they all suffered a plane accident, no joke

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I love the roster, my main doubts are just starxo and Wolfen.

Starxo has already proven himself, he just comes from a bad moment from his team and I hope he can bring his level back up, but I’m pretty confident he will

Wolfen was an amazing chamber and it’s a pretty flexible guy, but I still wanna see how his new role plays out. Chamber was what made him shine the most

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queueK [#13]

the roster has a lot of experience and room for growth. im just not confident that koldamenta is a top franchise igl. I'm sure he will help develop the roster but I think that will be the limiting factor for this iteration of KOI.

Really?In my opinion Koldamenta is literally the most proven EMEA IGL. He is the only one to reach the top with several teams. Turned Acend into the roster they were on the first place by winning Masters 1, turned G2 into a good team and reached semifinals of Masters 3 (Look what happened to G2 when he left). And then turned Guild into a contender for everything beating OPTC and only loosing to the finalists of the masters they went to

Him and Vanity are the only 2 IGLs in the world to bring more than 1 team to LAN if I’m not wrong

#23
cyk
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Whats wrong with u? Old Koi didn't even make it to VRL Spain playoff and you think they can compete in VCT?

#24
Fichy
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cyk [#23]

Whats wrong with u? Old Koi didn't even make it to VRL Spain playoff and you think they can compete in VCT?

Friend, we are on January 4th in case you are confused

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redlight [#12]

A very underrated team. It’s basically Guild reinvented but with a better flex, a somewhat worse initiator, and a hidden gem.

My favourite EMEA partnership team for sure.

Sheydos is so underrated

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cyk [#23]

Whats wrong with u? Old Koi didn't even make it to VRL Spain playoff and you think they can compete in VCT?

I mean there was no need for that

#27
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Uxind [#10]

Very underrated.
Potentially the best roster in EMEA

I can see it happening but there is still TL, FNC and NAVI with very proven rosters

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Dokka [#11]

Most underrated roster in franchising

True they are pretty underrated

#29
Mortadelo
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Yuiaq [#25]

Sheydos is so underrated

Sheydos is by far the best player on this team, and he is easily on Chronicle/nats level but people never give him that credit. Which is actually funny cause I’ve heard both of them say sheydos was the best one of the team

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patuj
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queueK [#13]

the roster has a lot of experience and room for growth. im just not confident that koldamenta is a top franchise igl. I'm sure he will help develop the roster but I think that will be the limiting factor for this iteration of KOI.

Then who is "top franchise igl"? Koldamenta has more recent success than Redgar for example. I don't really get the Koldamenta slander. Guys is one of the most proven IGLs in EMEA and even in the world. Who is clearly above him? FNS, Benkai, Saadhaak, Boaster, ANGE1, DRX'S IGL? And rest is hard to say considering that Guild got fucked for LCQ so they never even had a chance of making it and we don't know how well they could have done in Champions.

#31
Revlo
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doesn't matter americas owns shitMEA frauds

#32
Uxind
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Revlo [#31]

doesn't matter americas owns shitMEA frauds

https://www.vlr.gg/164382/why-is-na-so-bad-at-esports
:)

#33
risorah
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something smells goes about this roster

#34
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risorah [#33]

something smells goes about this roster

this roster has massive potential to do good in EMEA

#35
Olofboost
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Valgod [#15]

Probably gonna be bad at brazil because they couldn't even scrim until now, but could peak high at the end of the year

Still plenty of time to scrim, literally whole 40 days lmao

In CSGO, teams often have a week or two to train before another tournament

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Olofboost
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G2ShahZaM [#4]

5th IN EMEA at best

Every team in EMEA aside from community favoured big three (Navi, TL, FNC) is objectively worse than KOI

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babysasuke
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Olofboost [#36]

Every team in EMEA aside from community favoured big three (Navi, TL, FNC) is objectively worse than KOI

starxo

kekw

#38
Olofboost
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babysasuke [#37]

starxo

kekw

Good player, there's nothing wrong with him

But starxo is not even 3rd best in KOI - sheydos, trexx and wolfen are insane

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babysasuke
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Olofboost [#38]

Good player, there's nothing wrong with him

But starxo is not even 3rd best in KOI - sheydos, trexx and wolfen are insane

agreed on the second part, I think koldamenta better too

This roster could honestly be top 2, I have no faith in TL or FNC

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Dokka
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Bronze-Smurf [#14]

and Tier 3 SA

T4 on Mars

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Qwertyy
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Uxind [#32]

https://www.vlr.gg/164382/why-is-na-so-bad-at-esports
:)

omg no argument so u post a link kkkkkkkk

#42
Uxind
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Qwertyy [#41]

omg no argument so u post a link kkkkkkkk

My argument is in that thread.
Too lazy too repeat the same facts over and over again for you delusional near airport fans.
💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

#43
Uxind
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koromast [#18]

is trexx the hidden gem? or you referring to wolfen? (many people underrating him imo because his talent and mechanics are top tier and barbarr will likely turn him into a great player if he listens or in worse case, into a above mid tier sentinel).

Probably referring to wolfen

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babysasuke
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Uxind [#42]

My argument is in that thread.
Too lazy too repeat the same facts over and over again for you delusional near airport fans.
💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

cant make the same argument more than once but rolling around in his own piss after typing "near airport" for the 30th time today btw

#45
Uxind
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babysasuke [#44]

cant make the same argument more than once but rolling around in his own piss after typing "near airport" for the 30th time today btw

All I have to do is this
https://www.vlr.gg/164382/why-is-na-so-bad-at-esports
💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

#46
Deleted_User_b9f2b691
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The biggest dark horse in the world

#47
Uxind
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Obelisk [#27]

I can see it happening but there is still TL, FNC and NAVI with very proven rosters

We shall see :)

#48
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Deleted_User_b9f2b691 [#46]

The biggest dark horse in the world

true

#49
Revlo
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babysasuke [#44]

cant make the same argument more than once but rolling around in his own piss after typing "near airport" for the 30th time today btw

damn you owned that fraud

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