- ZMMB Runi(owns C9)
- TSM Wardell(100T father)
- Optic Yay(c9 Yay not as good)
- T1 Ska(should've beaten SEN)
- FNC Alfajer(owns FPX and Zypaan)
HM Derke when D3ffo's job is on the line
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gamr [#5]
- trent (owns 100T)
- Sayaplayer (owns 100T)
- valyn (owns 100T)
- JonahP (owns 100T)
- neT (owns 100T)
Umm. Lcq might say differently but hey maybe we’ll see a match between them in a couple years.
Deadpanmitten94 [#10]Umm. Lcq might say differently but hey maybe we’ll see a match between them in a couple years.
The Guard broke an entire roster in stage 1. Their loss to 100T at LCQ was bad but its not nearly on the level of 100T's loss to The Guard in Stage 1
gamr [#12]The Guard broke an entire roster in stage 1. Their loss to 100T at LCQ was bad but its not nearly on the level of 100T's loss to The Guard in Stage 1
new 100T is still quite a bit better than the guard though. stage 1 doesnt really matter if the team was able to redeem themselves.
unknown_trash [#13]new 100T is still quite a bit better than the guard though. stage 1 doesnt really matter if the team was able to redeem themselves.
how can a roster with 4 different players redeem a different roster
gamr [#14]how can a roster with 4 different players redeem a different roster
the org redeemed themselves, not the roster. it doesnt change the fact that new 100T>the guard>old 100T
furyufbutyounger [#11]1- Optic yay
2- Acend cNed (2021)
3- Gambit nAts (2021)
4- FNC Derke
5- LOUD aspas
6- SEN TenZ
bro snuck in derke
unknown_trash [#15]the org redeemed themselves, not the roster. it doesnt change the fact that new 100T>the guard>old 100T
Old Guard > New 100T > post-stage 1 Guard > Old 100T
gamr [#18]bro tried to sneak in leaf xeppaa zellsis and vanity
you think trent is the best initiator itw
Qwertyy [#19]you think trent is the best initiator itw
show me when i said that. i firmly believe he is top 3 NA. i don't think he is the best in the world.
gamr [#20]show me when i said that. i firmly believe he is top 3 NA. i don't think he is the best in the world.
top 3 NA.
yeah no
gamr [#17]Old Guard > New 100T > post-stage 1 Guard > Old 100T
Cope harder bozO. New 100t demolishes the guard any day of the week now, cryo diffs all of your players. Especially since they lost their coach. The 2 can't be compared anymore.
Qwertyy [#24]xeppaa
crashies
derrek
xeppaa is not better at sova or fade, he's better at skye because he's a flex player. trent is a better recon initiator. derrek has not proven anything for him to be a better initiator than trent. crashies I agree he is better.
unknown_trash [#27]Cope harder bozO. New 100t demolishes the guard any day of the week now, cryo diffs all of your players. Especially since they lost their coach. The 2 can't be compared anymore.
sorry i was referring to LCQ 100T, not franchised 100T. i agree that 100T with Cryo is better
gamr [#29]sorry i was referring to LCQ 100T, not franchised 100T. i agree that 100T with Cryo is better
Oh my bad. Yeah with will maybe 100T was beatable but with cryo they are on a new level. The guard isn't a bad team too but I apologise for getting quite emotional because I thought you were calling 100T trash which they aren't.
gamr [#28]xeppaa is not better at sova or fade, he's better at skye because he's a flex player. trent is a better recon initiator. derrek has not proven anything for him to be a better initiator than trent. crashies I agree he is better.
derrek>trent
unknown_trash [#30]Oh my bad. Yeah with will maybe 100T was beatable but with cryo they are on a new level. The guard isn't a bad team too but I apologise for getting quite emotional because I thought you were calling 100T trash which they aren't.
100T is definitely not trash lol they are currently the best team in NA, my first comment was a joke because that match was hilarious. 100T's LCQ roster iteration and their franchising roster are respectable and great teams. I just don't like them personally because I find some of their players absurdly overrated (specifically Asuna and Derrek)
Qwertyy [#31]derrek>trent
trent posted some very respectable stats for a 3-0 loss where his teammates were underperforming. its easy to look good when you're winning. when you're losing (guard at reykjavik and LCQ grand finals and 100t at Istanbul), then players look bad. there's just one fact. trent at least had 2 good tournaments while Derrek had 1 good tournament in 2022.
gamr [#33]trent posted some very respectable stats for a 3-0 loss where his teammates were underperforming. its easy to look good when you're winning. when you're losing (guard at reykjavik and LCQ grand finals and 100t at Istanbul), then players look bad. there's just one fact. trent at least had 2 good tournaments while Derrek had 1 good tournament in 2022.
touche
ShootMyShot [#35]Controllers
- MaKo
- Marved
- pancada
- SugarZ3ro
- sScary
Duelists
- yay
- Derke
- TenZ
- Sayf
- Cryocells
Flex
- Chronicle
- nAts
- SUYGETSU
- Alfajer
- leaf
Initiators
- Shao
- crashies
- Leo
- Sacy
- stax
Overall
- yay
- Chronicle
- nAts
- Derke
- TenZ
good list but suygetsu > derke
moatz [#2]
- M3C Nats
- M3C Chronicle
- M3C Redgar
- M3C Yayster
- M3C Sheydos
- M3C D3ffo
this is the most real real ever oh my god
ShootMyShot [#35]Controllers
- MaKo
- Marved
- pancada
- SugarZ3ro
- sScary
Duelists
- yay
- Derke
- TenZ
- Sayf
- Cryocells
Flex
- Chronicle
- nAts
- SUYGETSU
- Alfajer
- leaf
Initiators
- Shao
- crashies
- Leo
- Sacy
- stax
Overall
- yay
- Chronicle
- nAts
- Derke
- TenZ
so ardiss just doesn't exist in you're narrative
ayayaay [#36]good list but suygetsu > derke
I put Derke above SUYGETSU because Derke averaged a higher rating and ACS regionally and internationally in 2022. Why do you think SUYGETSU is better?
theogblazen [#41]so ardiss just doesn't exist in you're narrative
Unless you take team success into heavy consideration, I would not consider ardiis to be a top 5 duelist.
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