Making this thread to hear peoples opinions on who the S tier superteams are. The Red Bull Homeground Tournament gives us a little insight to a few teams, however, there are many other teams that have to be considered who didn't play there. Who do you all think are the top 5 teams, and top 5 players for each role?
Further, how do you think that yay will fit into C9 through the year with the difference in play styles as Optic had a pretty unqiue team dynamic
GreyDaze [#2]Realistically speaking there are no super teams rn. But teams like sen,TL,fnc,navi,lev,drx(duh) are the closest things to a superteam in franchised leagues imo
Lev are definitely underrated but amongst the best. Curious as to how popular opinion will compare to the results after the first season
Rabbiit [#4]For me only Fnc, Navi, Lev and Drx are the “superteams“, but like every tournament a not superteam team will win
My top picks thus far are:
Last one is a little bit of copium for my mental, regardless, bang and Cyro seem to be in form and insane right now.
zombzino [#7]could drx really get any better Korean players? Don't really know about t2 KR scene so just curious
yes
meteor
seoldam
exy (might be bias)
sayaplayer
xeta
munchkin
k1ng
TS
Sylvan
Lakia
t3xture
Bazzi
Moothie
Wenty
Ssun
Estrella
Harry
and there are some cracked T2 players in the ESL tourney like Ash, Blueming, Yoman, JaXe
there are likely more tbh
I didn't know if u meant Tier 2 only so included franchised players as well
archetype [#8]yes
meteor
seoldam
exy (might be bias)
sayaplayer
xeta
munchkin
k1ng
TS
Sylvan
Lakia
t3xture
Bazzi
Moothie
Wenty
Ssun
Estrella
Harryand there are some cracked T2 players in the ESL tourney like Ash, Blueming, Yoman, JaXe
there are likely more tbhI didn't know if u meant Tier 2 only so included franchised players as well
realistically how many of these guys do you think could replace drx players
zombzino [#9]realistically how many of these guys do you think could replace drx players
only Lakia, Bazzi, and maaaaaaaaaaybe Exy have a possibility of not being a sidegrade or upgrade. Lakia because he has a wrist injury.
The Tier 2 players idk
It's kinda obvious that in KR the DRX individuals aside from MaKo and maybe BuZz are not the best, but their teamwork and cohesion is. Foxy9 is the first real superstar of DRX picked up for his proven potential, as MaKo and BuZz were built up with the team.
ToothlessSkipper [#6]My top picks thus far are:
- DRX
- FNC
- Lev
- Navi
- TL
- 100T
Last one is a little bit of copium for my mental, regardless, bang and Cyro seem to be in form and insane right now.
Honestly don't think 100t is that much copium since I feel like almost any of them can have those star player moments...even stellar who maybe is a bit weaker had some amazing moments this last tournament so if they can keep it up it looks good
ToothlessSkipper [#6]My top picks thus far are:
- DRX
- FNC
- Lev
- Navi
- TL
- 100T
Last one is a little bit of copium for my mental, regardless, bang and Cyro seem to be in form and insane right now.
every player on 100T seems like they are hitting their prime or just getting into it. Stellar looking better aim wise, team meshes well, Asuna has been shaky but he is still learning a new role we should give him credit (few rozas in RBHG tho), bang and cryo look insane. If this team adapts to the meta they are one of my top picks.
archetype [#10]only Lakia, Bazzi, and maaaaaaaaaaybe Exy have a possibility of not being a sidegrade or upgrade. Lakia because he has a wrist injury.
The Tier 2 players idk
It's kinda obvious that in KR the DRX individuals aside from MaKo and maybe BuZz are not the best, but their teamwork and cohesion is. Foxy9 is the first real superstar of DRX picked up for his proven potential, as MaKo and BuZz were built up with the team.
No idea what DRX's plan is but I would love a world where Foxy9 has a main roster spot over maybe Rb
archetype [#10]only Lakia, Bazzi, and maaaaaaaaaaybe Exy have a possibility of not being a sidegrade or upgrade. Lakia because he has a wrist injury.
The Tier 2 players idk
It's kinda obvious that in KR the DRX individuals aside from MaKo and maybe BuZz are not the best, but their teamwork and cohesion is. Foxy9 is the first real superstar of DRX picked up for his proven potential, as MaKo and BuZz were built up with the team.
Do you think other initiators are better than stax?
I remember Rb did look kinda meh, but Mako and Buzz were great
RealRonin1 [#15]No idea what DRX's plan is but I would love a world where Foxy9 has a main roster spot over maybe Rb
if foxy had larger agent pool than rb and neon get nerfed then sure.
xiphon [#12]every player on 100T seems like they are hitting their prime or just getting into it. Stellar looking better aim wise, team meshes well, Asuna has been shaky but he is still learning a new role we should give him credit (few rozas in RBHG tho), bang and cryo look insane. If this team adapts to the meta they are one of my top picks.
- DRX
- FNC
- 100T
- TL
- NaVi
(lev really good)
Nah i feel like the one player who hasnt shown their best is Asuna bro is still fragging but this is def not his best
ToothlessSkipper [#6]My top picks thus far are:
- DRX
- FNC
- Lev
- Navi
- TL
- 100T
Last one is a little bit of copium for my mental, regardless, bang and Cyro seem to be in form and insane right now.
Imo 100t will be better than TL in future
Valgod [#18]Holy fuck people putting drx at 1 for no reason at all again
this is in context of the kr region, as in there are very few kr players better than drx players. hence they are a superteam
pitchfork [#17]if foxy had larger agent pool than rb and neon get nerfed then sure.
Kinda agree on that but at the same time I feel like Rb's bigger agent pool may mean less only because DRX has people who plays those agents better than or equal to him anyways
RealRonin1 [#25]Kinda agree on that but at the same time I feel like Rb's bigger agent pool may mean less only because DRX has people who plays those agents better than or equal to him anyways
In regards to duelist my only question is if foxy could maybe branch out from the jett, since if he can't then I 100 percent agree with you
zombzino [#16]Do you think other initiators are better than stax?
I remember Rb did look kinda meh, but Mako and Buzz were great
buzz can be replaced solely for duelist role but he has great flexibility along with Rb
t3xture, bazzi, seoldam, meteor, saya, munchkin, wenty, ssun, allow these guys prob could replace buzz for duelist
no one in the world can replace mako tbh
lakia, ban, eKo, xeta, intro, suggest, TS, these guys could replace stax on initiator. TS less so but his aim is crispy enough from what we saw at Gwangju.
If there's superteams then it would be
Fnatic is the most "superteam" out there in my opinion. They have 4 players that all could be considered as superstars if they were on different rosters and when playing on their peak form. And then they have one of the most proven IGLs in Boaster even if he hasn't won anything yet. Derke has potential to become the best player in the world and has been top 2-5 for long time. Alfajer's peaks are really high and even as young player he is one of the best in his role (not sure if he has to move to sentinel role tho). Leo is in my opinion the best initiator in EMEA and tippity top in international standards. And well Chronicle was considered as one of the best last year and is highly rated even to this day.
patuj [#35]Fnatic is the most "superteam" out there in my opinion. They have 4 players that all could be considered as superstars if they were on different rosters and when playing on their peak form. And then they have one of the most proven IGLs in Boaster even if he hasn't won anything yet. Derke has potential to become the best player in the world and has been top 2-5 for long time. Alfajer's peaks are really high and even as young player he is one of the best in his role (not sure if he has to move to sentinel role tho). Leo is in my opinion the best initiator in EMEA and tippity top in international standards. And well Chronicle was considered as one of the best last year and is highly rated even to this day.
Boaster and "the most superteam" 💀💀💀
ItsMeDio [#38]Boaster and "the most superteam" 💀💀💀
Say what you want about Boaster and yes I have had my doubts, but:
EMEA Stage 2 Challangers 2021: 2nd
[higher placed IGL: Scream?]
VCT Reykjavik 2021: 2nd
[higher placed IGL: Shahzam]
VCT Berlin 2021: didn't qualify
Champions 2021: 5th-8th
[higher placed IGL: Bonecold, Scream?, Klaus, Redgar]
EMEA Stage 1 2022: 3rd
(2nd best truly) [higher placed IGL: ANGE1]
Masters Reykjavik 2022: 2 stand-ins so doesnt count, was one of the favorites
EMEA Stage 2 2022: 1st
Masters Copenhagen: 4th
[higher placed IGL: ANGE1, Benkai, FNS]
Champions 2022: 5th-6th
[higher placed IGL: saadhaak, FNS, stax?, ANGE1]
so all in all Fnatic has been one of the best and most consistently good teams in Valorant with Boaster. Also Boaster individually has usually had decent/ok international performances. He is one of the most proven IGLs in Valorant and still is. More proven than guys like Vanity that people like to praise for some reason. Ofc you can't put all on IGL because Fnatic has had good rosters, but just to give idea.
patuj [#39]Say what you want about Boaster and yes I have had my doubts, but:
EMEA Stage 2 Challangers 2021: 2nd
[higher placed IGL: Scream?]VCT Reykjavik 2021: 2nd
[higher placed IGL: Shahzam]VCT Berlin 2021: didn't qualify
Champions 2021: 5th-8th
[higher placed IGL: Bonecold, Scream?, Klaus, Redgar]EMEA Stage 1 2022: 3rd
(2nd best truly) [higher placed IGL: ANGE1]Masters Reykjavik 2022: 2 stand-ins so doesnt count, was one of the favorites
EMEA Stage 2 2022: 1st
Masters Copenhagen: 4th
[higher placed IGL: ANGE1, Benkai, FNS]Champions 2022: 5th-6th
[higher placed IGL: saadhaak, FNS, stax?, ANGE1]so all in all Fnatic has been one of the best and most consistently good teams in Valorant with Boaster. Also Boaster individually has usually had decent/ok international performances. He is one of the most proven IGLs in Valorant and still is. More proven than guys like Vanity that people like to praise for some reason. Ofc you can't put all on IGL because Fnatic has had good rosters, but just to give idea.
this proves EU has only one good IGL - Ange1
SigmaMale [#41]this proves EU has only one good IGL - Ange1
How many does na have lol apart from fns
patuj [#39]Say what you want about Boaster and yes I have had my doubts, but:
EMEA Stage 2 Challangers 2021: 2nd
[higher placed IGL: Scream?]VCT Reykjavik 2021: 2nd
[higher placed IGL: Shahzam]VCT Berlin 2021: didn't qualify
Champions 2021: 5th-8th
[higher placed IGL: Bonecold, Scream?, Klaus, Redgar]EMEA Stage 1 2022: 3rd
(2nd best truly) [higher placed IGL: ANGE1]Masters Reykjavik 2022: 2 stand-ins so doesnt count, was one of the favorites
EMEA Stage 2 2022: 1st
Masters Copenhagen: 4th
[higher placed IGL: ANGE1, Benkai, FNS]Champions 2022: 5th-6th
[higher placed IGL: saadhaak, FNS, stax?, ANGE1]so all in all Fnatic has been one of the best and most consistently good teams in Valorant with Boaster. Also Boaster individually has usually had decent/ok international performances. He is one of the most proven IGLs in Valorant and still is. More proven than guys like Vanity that people like to praise for some reason. Ofc you can't put all on IGL because Fnatic has had good rosters, but just to give idea.
Most based take about boaster
patuj [#39]Say what you want about Boaster and yes I have had my doubts, but:
EMEA Stage 2 Challangers 2021: 2nd
[higher placed IGL: Scream?]VCT Reykjavik 2021: 2nd
[higher placed IGL: Shahzam]VCT Berlin 2021: didn't qualify
Champions 2021: 5th-8th
[higher placed IGL: Bonecold, Scream?, Klaus, Redgar]EMEA Stage 1 2022: 3rd
(2nd best truly) [higher placed IGL: ANGE1]Masters Reykjavik 2022: 2 stand-ins so doesnt count, was one of the favorites
EMEA Stage 2 2022: 1st
Masters Copenhagen: 4th
[higher placed IGL: ANGE1, Benkai, FNS]Champions 2022: 5th-6th
[higher placed IGL: saadhaak, FNS, stax?, ANGE1]so all in all Fnatic has been one of the best and most consistently good teams in Valorant with Boaster. Also Boaster individually has usually had decent/ok international performances. He is one of the most proven IGLs in Valorant and still is. More proven than guys like Vanity that people like to praise for some reason. Ofc you can't put all on IGL because Fnatic has had good rosters, but just to give idea.
why'd you put a ? for stax but not one for benkai or Klaus lol
Sprouts [#45]why'd you put a ? for stax but not one for benkai or Klaus lol
if I put ? I meant that I'm not sure is he the IGL/who is the IGL. Stax used to be the IGL, but some people were saying it was Zest in some more recent tournaments so I'm not sure. Same with Liquid since they never had proper IGL.
SigmaMale [#41]this proves EU has only one good IGL - Ange1
Based on top finishes yes, but that is the case with every region really. I think our IGL situation with ANGE1, Boaster, Koldamenta, Redgar who are more proven and then guys like Bonecold, Boo, Rhyme(not sure yet) is good.
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