Head hunter/tour de force will pull out slower. Tour de force fire rate reduce. TPs will be same like jett dash
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nutab1e [#2]I hope they only implement one of those things or else the agent will be dead for the next year
would that be the worst thing?
They did that to Jett and no one blinked
nutab1e [#2]I hope they only implement one of those things or else the agent will be dead for the next year
No, these changes will make him more balanced, not useless
babysasuke [#3]would that be the worst thing?
They did that to Jett and no one blinked
jett pickrate still high
valulrantefanboy [#4]No, these changes will make him more balanced, not useless
imo it's gotta be pullout rate or tp. If they do both then his tp is just a jett dash with no entry ability and his guns barely do anything. Gotta keep one strength to make the agent viable
nutab1e [#5]jett pickrate still high
not in competitive play tho, just nerds in ranked who refuse to adapt (me)
she used to be meta on every map in pro play haha
babysasuke [#7]not in competitive play tho, just nerds in ranked who refuse to adapt (me)
she used to be meta on every map in pro play haha
isn't the point of nerfing chamber to remove him to be the meta pick on every map?
babysasuke [#7]not in competitive play tho, just nerds in ranked who refuse to adapt (me)
she used to be meta on every map in pro play haha
She is second most picked duelist
Still good no?
hanafuji [#8]isn't the point of nerfing chamber to remove him to be the meta pick on every map?
yeah they tried that, but it wasnt enough
He's most likely going to be an all or nothing agent
as long as he's viable, he'll outperform the other sentinels
nutab1e [#5]jett pickrate still high
Yeah, but its balanced. You can play raze to counter it as well, then you have people also using phoenix and yoru nowadays, which are viable duelists. Chamber on the other hand is too much even now. Ofc we wont just have 0% pickrate for chamber, but make it so KJ, cypher is viable to pick against it.
33AJ [#9]She is second most picked duelist
Still good no?
Duelists in general are in the shitter
Reyna/Yoru arent meta on anything, Raze has specific maps that she excels on, Phoenix is a pocket pick for Haven, and Jett is really only used on Breeze
otherwise you just run more initiators to fill the role
babysasuke [#7]not in competitive play tho, just nerds in ranked who refuse to adapt (me)
she used to be meta on every map in pro play haha
https://twitter.com/willminder/status/1574956564964081664?s=20&t=OITMet39qnBZchOBQKMwOg
you need to watch more non-NA games bro you live on a different planet
nutab1e [#13]https://twitter.com/willminder/status/1574956564964081664?s=20&t=OITMet39qnBZchOBQKMwOg
you need to watch more non-NA games bro you live on a different planet
i forgot neon existed :) but otherwise this lines up
also who was playing Jett anywhere other than Breeze, Chamber was always the better pick and you didnt need both
babysasuke [#14]i forgot neon existed :) but otherwise this lines up
also who was playing Jett anywhere other than Breeze, Chamber was always the better pick and you didnt need both
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you said jett was dead
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ascent you fucking dumbass https://www.vlr.gg/130685/loud-vs-optic-gaming-valorant-champions-2022-gf/?game=95131&tab=overview
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not uncommon to run jett solo awp on breeze https://www.vlr.gg/130685/loud-vs-optic-gaming-valorant-champions-2022-gf/?game=95133&tab=overview https://www.vlr.gg/130678/drx-vs-funplus-phoenix-valorant-champions-2022-ubqf/?game=95111&tab=overview
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like I said, please actually watch some games
babysasuke [#3]would that be the worst thing?
They did that to Jett and no one blinked
They did not completely kill Jett tho. Jett is still preferred on many maps over many duelists. Her pick rate dropped so much because there was just such a strong alternative on chamber but she’s still great. The nerf was perfect imo
If they need chamber right now they will find a great balance of many other agents that are affected because of how much chamber is picked
nutab1e [#15]
you said jett was dead
ascent you fucking dumbass https://www.vlr.gg/130685/loud-vs-optic-gaming-valorant-champions-2022-gf/?game=95131&tab=overview
not uncommon to run jett solo awp on breeze https://www.vlr.gg/130685/loud-vs-optic-gaming-valorant-champions-2022-gf/?game=95133&tab=overview https://www.vlr.gg/130678/drx-vs-funplus-phoenix-valorant-champions-2022-ubqf/?game=95111&tab=overview
like I said, please actually watch some games
The FPX comp and game was bad, im not acknowledging it
Ill fold on Ascent
and not uncommon to solo awp jett on breeze doesnt mean it was right or good, and without the cypher (uncommon) it wouldnt have worked
also fuck you there hasnt been a T1 event in months FORGIVE ME for not remembering every map played
babysasuke [#17]The FPX comp and game was bad, im not acknowledging it
Ill fold on Ascent
and not uncommon to solo awp jett on breeze doesnt mean it was right or good, and without the cypher (uncommon) it wouldnt have worked
also fuck you there hasnt been a T1 event in months FORGIVE ME for not remembering every map played
"oh they picked it but it was a bad pick" AHAHAHA bro's begging for forgiveness too stay quiet dog
Mortadelo [#16]They did not completely kill Jett tho. Jett is still preferred on many maps over many duelists. Her pick rate dropped so much because there was just such a strong alternative on chamber but she’s still great. The nerf was perfect imo
If they need chamber right now they will find a great balance of many other agents that are affected because of how much chamber is picked
All I'm gonna ask you is to let me fucking live and stop replying to every single one of my posts, I already know your opinion about me and you do not need to remind me every day of my life thanks
nutab1e [#18]"oh they picked it but it was a bad pick" AHAHAHA bro's begging for forgiveness too stay quiet dog
FPX literally lost 13-5 and got shit on by the Jett+Chamber comp that I said was better lmfao
begging for forgiveness
It was ironic I actually dont care if you forgive me + I dont feel bad about it + cry
The only W you take from the original post is that Jett is actually playable on Ascent (but REMEMBER TEAMS WERE RUNNING CHAMBER OVER HER FOR MONTHS PRIOR TO CHAMPIONS)
babysasuke [#20]FPX literally lost 13-5 and got shit on by the Jett+Chamber comp that I said was better lmfao
begging for forgiveness
It was ironic I actually dont care if you forgive me + I dont feel bad about it + cry
The only W you take from the original post is that Jett is actually playable on Ascent (but REMEMBER TEAMS WERE RUNNING CHAMBER OVER HER FOR MONTHS PRIOR TO CHAMPIONS)
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I guess you're incapable of reading the second link https://www.vlr.gg/130685/loud-vs-optic-gaming-valorant-champions-2022-gf/?game=95133&tab=overview (against optic btw yay best chamber in the world right? cry shitty)
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it's not like jett fell out of the meta on ascent and came back you literally just don't watch games
nutab1e [#21]
I guess you're incapable of reading the second link https://www.vlr.gg/130685/loud-vs-optic-gaming-valorant-champions-2022-gf/?game=95133&tab=overview (against optic btw yay best chamber in the world right? cry shitty)
it's not like jett fell out of the meta on ascent and came back you literally just don't watch games
nah i read that
are you insinuating that Jett is better than Chamber because aspas had more kills?
marved and FNS fucking trolled that map what did you expect to happen
it's not like jett fell out of the meta on ascent and came back you literally just don't watch games
fuck man, you really made me go do the research.
Look at NA LCQ (directly before Champions):
https://www.vlr.gg/event/1130/champions-tour-north-america-last-chance-qualifier/main-event
The only team to consistently play Jett on Ascent was The Guard, and thats because its a comfort pick for sayaplayer
Faze tried it once and got rolled
C9 swapped to it after losing the Chamber/Jett matchup on Ascent and then got outclassed by 100T on the Jett side of the match twice in a row
It was not a widespread thing and Chamber was still the go to pick on Ascent leading up to Champions
inb4 "watch another region than NA 🤓"
babysasuke [#19]All I'm gonna ask you is to let me fucking live and stop replying to every single one of my posts, I already know your opinion about me and you do not need to remind me every day of my life thanks
It was funny like the first 2 times yk
babysasuke [#22]nah i read that
are you insinuating that Jett is better than Chamber because aspas had more kills?
marved and FNS fucking trolled that map what did you expect to happen
it's not like jett fell out of the meta on ascent and came back you literally just don't watch games
fuck man, you really made me go do the research.
Look at NA LCQ (directly before Champions):
https://www.vlr.gg/event/1130/champions-tour-north-america-last-chance-qualifier/main-eventThe only team to consistently play Jett on Ascent was The Guard, and thats because its a comfort pick for sayaplayer
Faze tried it once and got rolled
C9 swapped to it after losing the Chamber/Jett matchup on Ascent and then got outclassed by 100T on the Jett side of the match twice in a row
It was not a widespread thing and Chamber was still the go to pick on Ascent leading up to Champions
inb4 "watch another region than NA 🤓"
- no you reading comprehensionless termite, but jett is a viable agent in the current meta and can win breeze alone against the best chamber itw
marved and FNS fucking trolled that map what did you expect to happen
yes it's gonna look like trolling when you lose a game you literally put that shit on repeat for every optic loss, please try analyzing literally anything
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it's like because you can find a reason for something that means it doesn't exist? yes it was a comfort pick for sayaplayer so fucking what? Guard got 2nd in that tourney and shit all over your precious faze clan
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holy shit!!! you predicted the most obvious flaw in your argument and it's still perfectly valid!
apac lcq finals w/ jetts on both sides https://www.vlr.gg/123050/boom-esports-vs-onic-g-champions-tour-asia-pacific-last-chance-qualifier-gf
east asia lcq finals w/ jetts on both sides https://www.vlr.gg/124202/edward-gaming-vs-on-sla2ers-champions-tour-east-asia-last-chance-qualifier-gf
emea lcq finals w/ jetts on both sides https://www.vlr.gg/112607/m3-champions-vs-team-liquid-champions-tour-emea-last-chance-qualifier-gf
south america lcq finals w/ jetts on both sides https://www.vlr.gg/123865/furia-vs-kr-esports-champions-tour-south-america-last-chance-qualifier-ubf
It was not a widespread thing
IM DEAD
nutab1e [#24]
- no you reading comprehensionless termite, but jett is a viable agent in the current meta and can win breeze alone against the best chamber itw
marved and FNS fucking trolled that map what did you expect to happen
yes it's gonna look like trolling when you lose a game you literally put that shit on repeat for every optic loss, please try analyzing literally anything
it's like because you can find a reason for something that means it doesn't exist? yes it was a comfort pick for sayaplayer so fucking what? Guard got 2nd in that tourney and shit all over your precious faze clan
holy shit!!! you predicted the most obvious flaw in your argument and it's still perfectly valid!
apac lcq finals w/ jetts on both sides https://www.vlr.gg/123050/boom-esports-vs-onic-g-champions-tour-asia-pacific-last-chance-qualifier-gf
east asia lcq finals w/ jetts on both sides https://www.vlr.gg/124202/edward-gaming-vs-on-sla2ers-champions-tour-east-asia-last-chance-qualifier-gf
emea lcq finals w/ jetts on both sides https://www.vlr.gg/112607/m3-champions-vs-team-liquid-champions-tour-emea-last-chance-qualifier-gf
south america lcq finals w/ jetts on both sides https://www.vlr.gg/123865/furia-vs-kr-esports-champions-tour-south-america-last-chance-qualifier-ubf
It was not a widespread thing
IM DEAD
holy shit!!! you predicted the most obvious flaw in your argument and it's still perfectly valid!
Its not a flaw in my arguement, its actually a testament to why im putting 0 faith in the LCQ finals of the other regions. Top 10 NA is BY FAR the most competitive (domestically and matched against other regions) of any region, which is why I chose OUR lcq.
APAC and East Asia meta is different and LCQ was a big dick battle of who could outfrag who to get the last spot, which Jett is better for because it HAS MORE AGENCY
I dont know what Europe was doing, from looking at EMEA VCT playoffs, it seems like they couldnt play the chamber comp on Ascent correctly and both swapped to the Jett for more prio on their carries
South America LCQ: They had fucking NagZ on KRU who is absolutely atrocious on Chamber, Keznit doesnt play it, so they swapped Keznit to Jett and built the comp around him BECAUSE KEZNIT IS JUST THAT GOOD
IM DEAD
So is your argument shitty
babysasuke [#25]holy shit!!! you predicted the most obvious flaw in your argument and it's still perfectly valid!
Its not a flaw in my arguement, its actually a testament to why im putting 0 faith in the LCQ finals of the other regions. Top 10 NA is BY FAR the most competitive (domestically and matched against other regions) of any region, which is why I chose OUR lcq.
APAC and East Asia meta is different and LCQ was a big dick battle of who could outfrag who to get the last spot, which Jett is better for because it HAS MORE AGENCY
I dont know what Europe was doing, from looking at EMEA VCT playoffs, it seems like they couldnt play the chamber comp on Ascent correctly and both swapped to the Jett for more prio on their carries
South America LCQ: They had fucking NagZ on KRU who is absolutely atrocious on Chamber, Keznit doesnt play it, so they swapped Keznit to Jett and built the comp around him BECAUSE KEZNIT IS JUST THAT GOOD
IM DEAD
So is your argument shitty
APAC and East Asia meta is different and LCQ was a big dick battle of who could outfrag who to get the last spot, which Jett is better for because it HAS MORE AGENCY
- vlr user discovers different playstyles 😂
and yes jett gives you more agency that's why it's still a viable agent
BY FAR the most competitive (domestically and matched against other regions)
do I really need to say this? who won champs etc etc ur just baiting at this point
nutab1e [#26]APAC and East Asia meta is different and LCQ was a big dick battle of who could outfrag who to get the last spot, which Jett is better for because it HAS MORE AGENCY
- vlr user discovers different playstyles 😂
and yes jett gives you more agency that's why it's still a viable agent
BY FAR the most competitive (domestically and matched against other regions)
do I really need to say this? who won champs etc etc ur just baiting at this point
Theres a difference between "different playstyles" and "picking worse comps to cover your weaknesses"
In this case, this is seeds 3-whatever trying to cover their lack of coordination and prep with fragging power. It works against equally disorganized teams, it does not work against the top 3 from other regions around the world.
No bait, no cope, no bullshit, 4-10 NA is stronger than 4-10 of any other region and I'm not backing down on that even slightly.
FaZe, C9 (with Xeta), Guard, and NRG could have beaten any teams from any other LCQ aside from KRU
babysasuke [#28]Theres a difference between "different playstyles" and "picking worse comps to cover your weaknesses"
In this case, this is seeds 3-whatever trying to cover their lack of coordination and prep with fragging power. It works against equally disorganized teams, it does not work against the top 3 from other regions around the world.
No bait, no cope, no bullshit, 4-10 NA is stronger than 4-10 of any other region and I'm not backing down on that even slightly.
FaZe, C9 (with Xeta), Guard, and NRG could have beaten any teams from any other LCQ aside from KRU
it does not work against the top 3 from other regions around the world.
bro got fucking alzheimers so I'll link it a third time for ya 💀💀💀 https://www.vlr.gg/130685/loud-vs-optic-gaming-valorant-champions-2022-gf/?game=95133&tab=overview
depth of chamber comps in a region doesn't change the fact that your #1 is losing to jett comps
nutab1e [#29]it does not work against the top 3 from other regions around the world.
bro got fucking alzheimers so I'll link it a third time for ya 💀💀💀 https://www.vlr.gg/130685/loud-vs-optic-gaming-valorant-champions-2022-gf/?game=95133&tab=overview
depth of chamber comps in a region doesn't change the fact that your #1 is losing to jett comps
There is no way you look at this map and think Jett was the determining factor
The ace on this was CYPHER
and then you needed to run Jett over Chamber to be able to take space which was possible BECAUSE THEY BUILT THE COMP AROUND CYPHER
Also "you reading comprehensionless termite" we're mainly talking about Ascent.
Also "you reading comprehensionless termite" show me another comp where someone else ran the Cypher on Breeze to justify the Jett.
babysasuke [#30]There is no way you look at this map and think Jett was the determining factor
The ace on this was CYPHER
and then you needed to run Jett over Chamber to be able to take space which was possible BECAUSE THEY BUILT THE COMP AROUND CYPHER
Also "you reading comprehensionless termite" we're mainly talking about Ascent.
Also "you reading comprehensionless termite" show me another comp where someone else ran the Cypher on Breeze to justify the Jett.
we're only talking about ascent because you've changed the point 5 times. Remember when you said Jett was dead in your first comment?
There is no way you look at this map and think Jett was the determining factor
ya I think the top frag jett was pretty important. Chamber definitely wasn't much of a determining factor eh? 😂
show me another comp where someone else ran the Cypher on Breeze to justify the Jett.
NA team btw 😂
why are we taking about ascent?
Ill fold on Ascent
like deadass you are just throwing out random words on this ascent shit it doesn't even make sense
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