Since stockholm the majors viewership dropped significantly
Stockhold 21 - 2.7mil
Antwerp 22 - 2.1mil
and now Rio 22 - 1.5mil< ( probably )
Unless something happens csgo will die in the next years
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juugobr_ [#2]lowkey starting to think you're a csgo frog trying to bait users here in vlr
nah , im actually praying on csgo downfall
Let's be real:
Stockholm 21 - NaVi vs G2
Antwerp 22 - NaVi vs FaZe
Rio 22 - Heroic vs Outsiders
Its almost like going from top EU vs top NA finals to XSET vs Xerxia finals in Valorant. Also this Major has been fairly boring if I'm honest. Many top teams and big names got eliminated before expected and there hasn't been many memorably moments so far. Also the crowd has been pretty meh outside of Furia games so its almost like watching online match lol. Really underwhelming major so far outside of Furia games ofc.
acels1 [#7]outsiders + heroic have a total of 10 fans max so no surprises
fr lol Brazilian people are only there rn because they bought their grand final tickets in advance thinking Furia was gonna be there
asdfgh [#10]its literally 2 of the most boring teams in the final with br crowd tf you mean "unless something happens" stop the coping literally nothing needs to happen expect better teams in finals
valorant will have more viewers than cs next year anyways
displayed_ [#11]valorant will have more viewers than cs next year anyways
why,even this shitfest has better average viewership than champs even tho the teams are boring lol,people just dont care about teams like outsiders or heroic they are like the most boring final possible
displayed_ [#11]valorant will have more viewers than cs next year anyways
Salty bne fan keep crying
Either way most ruski pros relocating to Belgrade
So you are irrelevant
acels1 [#7]outsiders + heroic have a total of 10 fans max so no surprises
Heroic - Outsiders match was played at Stockholm and surprisingly crowd was full and loud
displayed_ [#11]valorant will have more viewers than cs next year anyways
If it does, that's only because Riot organizes watchparties. Dedicated Valorant fanbase is times smaller than dedicated CSGO fanbase. Half of Valorant views come from people who watch their favourite streamers for fun
Olofboost [#16]Heroic - Outsiders match was played at Stockholm and surprisingly crowd was full and loud
But this time is in Brazil lol
displayed_ [#11]valorant will have more viewers than cs next year anyways
Wait for at least 5 years and it will be debatable
sank3tsu [#19]But this time is in Brazil lol
That's what I'm saying. EU crowd is better. EU cheers and screams even for teams with no fans
sank3tsu [#17]Bruh , Imagine Champions Final 2024 being Evil Geniuses vs RRQ at Brazil .. How many viewrs would u expect??? Cuz thats whats happening now . If Furia passed to the final the viewership would be 2.2Mm easily if not more
good take
sank3tsu [#17]Bruh , Imagine Champions Final 2024 being Evil Geniuses vs RRQ at Brazil .. How many viewrs would u expect??? Cuz thats whats happening now . If Furia passed to the final the viewership would be 2.2Mm easily if not more
navi vs faze couldnt get 2.2 mil and you think Furia would LUL
displayed_ [#23]navi vs faze couldnt get 2.2 mil and you think Furia would LUL
gaules alone has like 500k when furia was playing at semis he can easily get like 1m alone with furia in grand final
BattleCry [#4]Valorant is last hope of competitive fps, all other fps games are dead anyways
Valorant is last fps hope so valorant fans must wait 6 months in between seasons, while csgo fans get regular tournaments every month
Olofboost [#21]That's what I'm saying. EU crowd is better. EU cheers and screams even for teams with no fans
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ValulrantLUL [#6]Stockholm was the first Major after 2 years, Antwerp did really good
but this is a shit show, teams without any fans in a GF
this
displayed_ [#23]navi vs faze couldnt get 2.2 mil and you think Furia would LUL
Gaules buff lol , i dont like the guy but he would manage to bring people to watch the game
Olofboost [#18]If it does, that's only because Riot organizes watchparties. Dedicated Valorant fanbase is times smaller than dedicated CSGO fanbase. Half of Valorant views come from people who watch their favourite streamers for fun
Tarik reaches 100k because everyone watches him for fun? Is that why he has 15k viewers streaming cs rn? Yall cope so hard for cs on a forum for valorant lmao
sank3tsu [#17]Bruh , Imagine Champions Final 2024 being Evil Geniuses vs RRQ at Brazil .. How many viewrs would u expect??? Cuz thats whats happening now . If Furia passed to the final the viewership would be 2.2Mm easily if not more
that would be hilarious ngl
Shaheeeeem [#24]Bro so shit
He changed his flag
Salty ass bne fan
Im not from Albania , I am from Romania , I support sprout and gamerlegion because they have romanian players , I knew they wouldnt win so I am not salty about anything. Valorant is simply a better esports , the only thing holding cs together is gambling , without it esports scene wouldnt exist .
displayed_ [#34]Im not from Albania , I am from Romania , I support sprout and gamerlegion because they have romanian players , I knew they wouldnt win so I am not salty about anything. Valorant is simply a better esports , the only thing holding cs together is gambling , without it esports scene wouldnt exist .
valorant will be dead in the next 3 years
displayed_ [#5]nah , im actually praying on csgo downfall
valorant would be dead by the time franchising hits kiddo
hanafuji [#35]valorant will be dead in the next 3 years
its funny that you say that . Cs is on a downfall with each major getting less and less viewers while valorant is currently peaking in viewers and keeps growing with franchising.
Riot knows how to maintain an esports scene unlike CS
displayed_ [#37]its funny that you say that . Cs is on a downfall with each major getting less and less viewers while valorant is currently peaking in viewers and keeps growing with franchising.
Riot knows how to maintain an esports scene unlike CS
Bro stfu cs has been there since 2 decades wtf
displayed_ [#37]its funny that you say that . Cs is on a downfall with each major getting less and less viewers while valorant is currently peaking in viewers and keeps growing with franchising.
Riot knows how to maintain an esports scene unlike CS
keep coping bro, the only reason your esport is alive is because it's getting spoonfed by daddy riot, almost noone actually cares about the game they only care about the personalities LMFAO
Shaheeeeem [#39]Bro stfu cs has been there since 2 decades wtf
yeah , while disregarding regions like NA and Asia
displayed_ [#42]yeah , while disregarding regions like NA and Asia
How is it the games fault that both the regions are trash
Wtf bro
Shaheeeeem [#43]How is it the games fault that both the regions are trash
Wtf bro
Asia had no support since the game release how are they supposed to get good as a region? Valorant helped the scene grow and got them to be t1 , prove themselves and look at them now
displayed_ [#44]Asia had no support since the game release how are they supposed to get good as a region? Valorant helped the scene grow and got them to be t1 , prove themselves and look at them now
GabeN owns them
displayed_ [#37]its funny that you say that . Cs is on a downfall with each major getting less and less viewers while valorant is currently peaking in viewers and keeps growing with franchising.
Riot knows how to maintain an esports scene unlike CS
cs has actually been growing since 2017 in viewership and playerbase and its a fact
Will28 [#47]Champions = Loud x Optic.
Major= Outsiders X Heroic.Case closed.
CSGO FANS WHEN BETTER TEAMS WIN 😭
wizardbot [#31]Tarik reaches 100k because everyone watches him for fun? Is that why he has 15k viewers streaming cs rn? Yall cope so hard for cs on a forum for valorant lmao
maybe because tarik has a 99% valorant audience rn and for the 100 time look at the finals why would anyone be interested in that,i remember when during champs tarik didnt stream and the official channel was full of "where is tarik" comments lmfao most people dont even care if its not a watch party
asdfgh [#49]maybe because tarik has a 99% valorant audience rn and for the 100 time look at the finals why would anyone be interested in that,i remember when during champs tarik didnt stream and the official channel was full of "where is tarik" comments lmfao most people dont even care if its not a watch party
Imagine watching a 🥜 🧠
asdfgh [#49]maybe because tarik has a 99% valorant audience rn and for the 100 time look at the finals why would anyone be interested in that,i remember when during champs tarik didnt stream and the official channel was full of "where is tarik" comments lmfao most people dont even care if its not a watch party
same thing with gaules and his viewers
displayed_ [#48]CSGO FANS WHEN BETTER TEAMS WIN 😭
valorant fans when its time to watch their second ever lans grand final https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/vct-2021-stage-3-masters-berlin
this shit is actually a disgrace 692k lmfao
displayed_ [#48]CSGO FANS WHEN BETTER TEAMS WIN 😭
Actually it's good, new teams, underdogs winning.
Valorant next year: the same 10 teams playing ever.
displayed_ [#51]same thing with gaules and his viewers
expect that gaules isnt a watch party he is the official br channel you kinda have to watch him if you want to watch the portugese broadcast
asdfgh [#52]valorant fans when its time to watch their second ever lans grand final https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/vct-2021-stage-3-masters-berlin
this shit is actually a disgrace 692k lmfao
its like comparing this https://escharts.com/tournaments/csgo/esl-pro-league-season-16 to champs .
A masters isnt a major - Champs is the equivalent of a major .
Champs 2021 -> 1.1mil
Champs 2022 ->1.5mil
ValulrantLUL [#6]Stockholm was the first Major after 2 years, Antwerp did really good
but this is a shit show, teams without any fans in a GF
true, and cuz of the war cs lost a huge cis community
PandaZ [#9]fr lol Brazilian people are only there rn because they bought their grand final tickets in advance thinking Furia was gonna be there
A total of 0 people expected Furia to be in Grand Finals when tickets were being sold, so no
I hope they'll host it in the Maracanã Stadium, they will never understand how passionate we, Brazilians, are. They underestimate that we are the most passionate fans in the world, not only for Counter-Strike, but we are also the most passionate Counter-Strike fans.
This is very huge for us, Brazilians. We are much passionate and we love Counter-Strike. We have a population of 300 million people, all of them love Counter-Strike, and they will all want to attend the event because we just love Counter-Strike so much.
Its our passion, its in our veins. They'll never understand. We're not mere e-Sports fans like the rest of the world, we are passionate about Counter-Strike more than any other country in the world.
We have a huge history in Counter-Strike, some of the best players in the world are Brazilian, and that is why we love CS so much. We all grew watching Counter-Strike, unlike the rest of the world. They underestimate how much we love Counter-Strike and more importantly, how passionate we are and more importantly how passionate we are about Counter-Strike.
So its impossible to host such a big event in a small Arena for 30k people. They should host in the Maracanã, and even then 80k seats won't be enough, because we are really passionate about Counter-Strike, not only Counter-Strike, us the Brazilians we are really passionate people, fans, about everything, but more importantly we are very passionate about Counter-Strike
displayed_ [#55]its like comparing this https://escharts.com/tournaments/csgo/esl-pro-league-season-16 to champs .
A masters isnt a major - Champs is the equivalent of a major .
Champs 2021 -> 1.1mil
Champs 2022 ->1.5mil
you have 3 tournaments for the whole year lmfao,cs has blast lans,cologne,katowice,2 majors,dallas,pro league etc and this was the second EVER valo lan lol,also cologne and katowice beat champs 2021,iceland and Copenhagen peak and viewership easily lol ,this major too has more average viewers and higher wiewership games than champs 2022 overall expect the final so cope
Will28 [#53]Actually it's good, new teams, underdogs winning.
Valorant next year: the same 10 teams playing ever.
This not true since there's a promotion system and Riot will expand the leagues. So, we'll see.... Might be the same teams lol. But chances are there will be new blood
asdfgh [#60]you have 3 tournaments for the whole year lmfao,cs has blast lans,cologne,katowice,2 majors,dallas,pro league etc and this was the second EVER valo lan lol,also cologne and katowice beat champs 2021,iceland and Copenhagen peak and viewership easily lol ,this major too has more average viewers and higher wiewership games than champs 2022 overall expect the final so cope
Dude this is sad.... Just go back to hltv and enjoy that Outsiders victory. It happens... 2 non popular teams in a GF. 1million viewed GF is still good.
Phamous [#63]Dude this is sad.... Just go back to hltv and enjoy that Outsiders victory. It happens... 2 non popular teams in a GF. 1million viewed GF is still good.
idk whats sad about writing ur doing the same rn,but ok i know im right so its fun to argue with this baiter
displayed_ [#55]its like comparing this https://escharts.com/tournaments/csgo/esl-pro-league-season-16 to champs .
A masters isnt a major - Champs is the equivalent of a major .
Champs 2021 -> 1.1mil
Champs 2022 ->1.5mil
Not really. Valorant masters are pretty comparable to CSGO Majors considering that there was only 2 of them + Champions in a year while CSGO has 2 Majors in a year. Champions is more special with skin release etc, but Valorant Master isn't like ESL Pro League or something. Way closer to Major than to 3rd party tournament. At least in my opinion. Like no one talks about "ESL Pro League Champions", but you hear people talking about Masters Champions and even MSI Champions in LoL that also has 2 aka "minor"(MSI) and "major"(Worlds) system.
Olofboost [#21]That's what I'm saying. EU crowd is better. EU cheers and screams even for teams with no fans
Bro heroic is danish and stokholm is close to denmark so stop this bullshit
asdfgh [#64]idk whats sad about writing ur doing the same rn,but ok i know im right so its fun to argue with this baiter
The fact you have to tell yourself you're right is just some cringe shit... www.hltv.org <--- See you there bud. Enjoy.
patuj [#66]Not really. Valorant masters are pretty comparable to CSGO Majors considering that there was only 2 of them + Champions in a year while CSGO has 2 Majors in a year. Champions is more special with skin release etc, but Valorant Master isn't like ESL Pro League or something. Way closer to Major than to 3rd party tournament. At least in my opinion. Like no one talks about "ESL Pro League Champions", but you hear people talking about Masters Champions and even MSI Champions in LoL that also has 2 aka "minor"(MSI) and "major"(Worlds) system.
Masters = Minor
Champions = Major
Really not hard to comprehend. CSGO is based on a open-tournament style system so, you'll see a lot more third party TO events. Valorant is a closed-circuit so, you'll notice waaaaay less third parties and more focus on league play.
Phamous [#68]The fact you have to tell yourself you're right is just some cringe shit... www.hltv.org <--- See you there bud. Enjoy.
no i dont have to tell myself im right because i know it,why would i go to hltv when i can argue with delusional val frogs here
asdfgh [#70]no i dont have to tell myself im right because i know it,why would i go to hltv when i can argue with delusional val frogs here
Lol.... Literally come to a site dedicated to a game you dislike to troll and argue... Sad life bro.
Phamous [#69]Masters = Minor
Champions = Major
Really not hard to comprehend. CSGO is based on a open-tournament style system so, you'll see a lot more third party TO events. Valorant is a closed-circuit so, you'll notice waaaaay less third parties and more focus on league play.
bhahahha masters is not minor its a whole event with a crowd, trophy and its a independent event its like msi in league
Phamous [#72]Lol.... Literally come to a site dedicated to a game you dislike to troll and argue... Sad life bro.
nah i like val i have watched every val lan since iceland and played it actively too
asdfgh [#73]bhahahha masters is not minor its a whole event with a crowd, trophy and its a independent event its like msi in league
What kind of sad life is this... It's a minor. Similar to LoL Worlds... No one talks about MSI as a major lol. Crowd doesn't = major. If that's the case CSGO has like 20 majors a year lol.
Stop trolling and living the sad life bro.
Phamous [#75]What kind of sad life is this... It's a minor. Similar to LoL Worlds... No one talks about MSI as a major lol. Crowd doesn't = major. If that's the case CSGO has like 20 majors a year lol.
Stop trolling and living the sad life bro.
Master is like Kato/COLOGNE
Phamous [#75]What kind of sad life is this... It's a minor. Similar to LoL Worlds... No one talks about MSI as a major lol. Crowd doesn't = major. If that's the case CSGO has like 20 majors a year lol.
Stop trolling and living the sad life bro.
bro you can stop trying to say sad life my life is good dw lol,dumbass you are calling a whole event with a trophy and huge prize pool and crowd the same as a direct major qualifier where you dont even win anything or play in a venue lmao,champs is a major but the 2 others are not comparable to some ordinary tournament like pro league or iem dallas or a major qualifier they are supposed to be prestigious that's why there's only 2 a year to lead up to champs,they are more like cologne and katowice if anything
asdfgh [#77]bro you can stop trying to say sad life my life is good dw lol,dumbass you are calling a whole event with a trophy and huge prize pool and crowd the same as a direct major qualifier where you dont even win anything or play in a venue lmao,champs is a major but the 2 others are not comparable to some ordinary tournament like pro league or iem dallas or a major qualifier they are supposed to be prestigious that's why there's only 2 a year to lead up to champs,they are more like cologne and katowice if anything
This dumbass still living a sad life... Plenty of CSGO events with audience and trophies. Masters = Minor and Champions = Major. End of story kid.
Phamous [#78]This dumbass still living a sad life... Plenty of CSGO events with audience and trophies. Masters = Minor and Champions = Major. End of story kid.
yeah because its open circuit lol,first of all minor is not even a thing anymore,it doesn't have a grand final,minor is a qualifier not its own event,masters is its own event and is treated as a real tournament like champs but the winner qualifies to the major are you braindead
asdfgh [#54]expect that gaules isnt a watch party he is the official br channel you kinda have to watch him if you want to watch the portugese broadcast
Gaules is still a streamer lol.... Companies leverage his channel for viewership it's the same thing Riot does with any watch party. Just cause you label him as the "Official Portugese Broadcast" doesn't change that. They could easily invite Gaules to the event and create a IEM Rio Portugese Broadcast with Gaules as the host...
You know why they don't do that???? Riggghhhttttt cause of his following on his channel and the SUPPORT his channel gets.
Come on guys.... We not this stupid.
asdfgh [#79]yeah because its open circuit lol,first of all minor is not even a thing anymore,it doesn't have a grand final,minor is a qualifier not its own event,masters is its own event and is treated as a real tournament like champs but the winner qualifies to the major are you braindead
You're braindead to compare a CSGO Major to anything outside Champions... End of story kid
Get out the sad life bro
Phamous [#81]You're braindead to compare a CSGO Major to anything outside Champions... End of story kid
Get out the sad life bro
lmfao are you a bot or something you have now said "end of story kid🤓" and "sad life bro" 2 sentences in a row hahhahah,i literally said 1 fucking post ago that they are like cologne and katowice you are the retard saying a fucking minor is equal to a masters that must be the most retarded shit i have ever heard,vct seasons are the minors, minors are not even international but the fact ur comparing a regional qualifier to a tournament to 2 independent events where all the best teams from around the world already compete is just too funny,what are you even trying to say?
asdfgh [#82]lmfao are you a bot or something you have now said "end of story kid🤓" and "sad life bro" 2 sentences in a row hahhahah,i literally said 1 fucking post ago that they are like cologne and katowice you are the retard saying a fucking minor is equal to a masters that must be the most retarded shit i have ever heard,vct seasons are the minors, minors are not even international but the fact ur comparing a regional qualifier to a tournament to 2 independent events where all the best teams from around the world already compete is just too funny,what are you even trying to say?
Look at this sad life kid go... Seem angry haha... "You fuking retard asshole omg said the same shit" blah blah blah... Masters = Minor, Champions = Major. End of story kid... Touch some grass you'll feel better
Phamous [#83]Look at this sad life kid go... Seem angry haha... "You fuking retard asshole omg said the same shit" blah blah blah... Masters = Minor, Champions = Major. End of story kid... Touch some grass you'll feel better
see otherwise i would agree with u but masters just isnt the same as a minor,the wiewership will grow its no shame copenhagen peaked 700k we dont have make it seem better by saying its just like a minor that wont change anything the val community needs to do better and watch no matter how boring it may be without tenz or yay
average csgo vs val argue braindead user:
-my game has realistic gun and harder gameplay your is for kids
-no, my game has bright nice skin better viewership and more utility you need more brain to play
-my game has dark corridor your game is for kids haha
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Phamous [#80]Gaules is still a streamer lol.... Companies leverage his channel for viewership it's the same thing Riot does with any watch party. Just cause you label him as the "Official Portugese Broadcast" doesn't change that. They could easily invite Gaules to the event and create a IEM Rio Portugese Broadcast with Gaules as the host...
You know why they don't do that???? Riggghhhttttt cause of his following on his channel and the SUPPORT his channel gets.
Come on guys.... We not this stupid.
But unlike watch parties he doesnt have a casting going in the background. He do the casting
VibsTV [#86]But unlike watch parties he doesnt have a casting going in the background. He do the casting
They're still leveraging his channel... Whatever loop-hole you want to create is fine but, at the end of the day Gaules channel is a watch party. Otherwise invite him to the event or the TO can broadcast a PR channel hosted by Gaules.
Olofboost [#26]Valorant is last fps hope so valorant fans must wait 6 months in between seasons, while csgo fans get regular tournaments every month
I don't mind it. Give the players and viewer's a break to keep interest up during the season.
Ajajajajajaja [#90]People talk always of CS on this forum but they don't talk of valorant on hltv. CS Is not dyng It rents free in ur heads
there has been many talks about Valorant on HLTV but you are just too ignorant to realize that
Phamous [#88]They're still leveraging his channel... Whatever loop-hole you want to create is fine but, at the end of the day Gaules channel is a watch party. Otherwise invite him to the event or the TO can broadcast a PR channel hosted by Gaules.
Bro he was literally the caster in the brazil event in the arena. How can that be watch party? Just because he show face doesnt make it watch party
VibsTV [#94]Bro he was literally the caster in the brazil event in the arena. How can that be watch party? Just because he show face doesnt make it watch party
If you’re utilizing Gaules channel you’re leveraging his subscriber base. Tarik was at Val Champions in Turkey. It’s called a live watch party. This not rocket science my guy.
If you’re watching an event through a streamers channel it’s a watch party.
Phamous [#95]If you’re utilizing Gaules channel you’re leveraging his subscriber base. Tarik was at Val Champions in Turkey. It’s called a live watch party. This not rocket science my guy.
If you’re watching an event through a streamers channel it’s a watch party.
Bro he was casting the event in arena. Like a his voice was used for casting in arena. Everyone in arena was listening to gaules casting. How can that be watchparty? Also, you can say the same about Valorant official channel. VCT is using valorant channel's follower base. This take is so bad
kyo12 [#92]there has been many talks about Valorant on HLTV but you are just too ignorant to realize that
the 1 thread was a kekw thread on the kid playing valorant inbetween matches outside the main venue
VibsTV [#98]Bro he was casting the event in arena. Like a his voice was used for casting in arena. Everyone in arena was listening to gaules casting. How can that be watchparty? Also, you can say the same about Valorant official channel. VCT is using valorant channel's follower base. This take is so bad
What in the world are you talking about. Comprehend what I am saying… Listen closely.
Whether they are at a LIVE event or at HOME (You with me)... If they are USING the streamers channel they are leveraging the subscriber base. Otherwise, why wouldn’t IEM broadcast their OWN PORTUGUESE CHANNEL and have Gaules host it. Since he’s at the event right?
They don’t… You know why????? Exactly, Gaules streaming channel has a huge following and subscriber base. Why fight to build viewership when Gaules channel notifies a gazillion people.
This not hard to comprehend… Tarik was live at Valorant Champions doing a LIVE watch party. Using his channel. He’s not the “Official English Broadcast” lol.
Olofboost [#26]Valorant is last fps hope so valorant fans must wait 6 months in between seasons, while csgo fans get regular tournaments every month
It's just calm before the storm. When franchising hits, it won't stop. There will be so many Ascension matches and also Lan matches at the same time. There may be too much to watch next year tbh
kyo12 [#92]there has been many talks about Valorant on HLTV but you are just too ignorant to realize that
as a frequent user of hltv ive never seen a valorant thread before
danii1 [#102]It's just calm before the storm. When franchising hits, it won't stop. There will be so many Ascension matches and also Lan matches at the same time. There may be too much to watch next year tbh
That's cope. People said same thing about 2022 back in 2021
Olofboost [#106]That's cope. People said same thing about 2022 back in 2021
didn't happen but keep deluding yourself lmao
Domination [#97]Plot twist: OP is trying to bait CS frogs which he succeeded in doing 🗿
Cs players are so insecure they come to a forum created for valorant to defend their dying game. They really would rather spend time doing this than playing their trash game
acels1 [#105]as a frequent user of hltv ive never seen a valorant thread before
i just saw a "valorant>csgo" thread
nutab1e [#114]asdfgh and olofboost scrambling to ride csgo dick
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