Juicy is back
Luck_ [#5]i love juicy but jayh is soooo good man no way they replace jayh...
But juicy is on par with jinggg
His ceiling is so good
ItsMeDio [#6]But juicy is on par with jinggg
His ceiling is so good
juicy deserves to be on the roster 100000%
but jayh is better than retla, crazyguy (imo) and he has been playing better than sscary recently. he needs to stay!
Luck_ [#7]juicy deserves to be on the roster 100000%
but jayh is better than retla, crazyguy (imo) and he has been playing better than sscary recently. he needs to stay!
jayH just doesnt have the PR the others do. he's so underrated man I swear.
kaesra [#3]i like juicy and all but jayh so much better
he's still young, so his peak prolly better
How is he still competing when he got banned for cheating back in 2021?
- https://www.oneesports.gg/valorant/tmg-will-forfeit-its-masters-1-spot-after-star-player-is-caught-cheating/
- https://twitter.com/juicyvalo/status/1372012678441365507?lang=en
- https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/m6rgrf/juicy_singapore_player_for_tmg_that_qualified_for/
I don't remember seeing any post about him getting unbanned for cheating. I remember that he did receive 2 ban back then, 1 is for competing as an underage and another one for cheating. Are we seriously allowing cheaters to compete in VCT now?
nocturnal_ [#11]How is he still competing when he got banned for cheating back in 2021?
- https://www.oneesports.gg/valorant/tmg-will-forfeit-its-masters-1-spot-after-star-player-is-caught-cheating/
- https://twitter.com/juicyvalo/status/1372012678441365507?lang=en
- https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/m6rgrf/juicy_singapore_player_for_tmg_that_qualified_for/
I don't remember seeing any post about him getting unbanned for cheating. I remember that he did receive 2 ban back then, 1 is for competing as an underage and another one for cheating. Are we seriously allowing cheaters to compete in VCT now?
im pretty sure he got false banned you can look through the reddit link u sent some people said he was unbanned by riot
kaesra [#12]im pretty sure he got false banned you can look through the reddit link u sent some people said he was unbanned by riot
Nope. His main account is still banned. https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/juicySG%23kelly/overview
He's been lying about getting unbanned for cheating for a year, time to call him out. He was unbanned for competing at an illegal age, which the ban expired when he became 16 earlier this year. I follow the MY/SG since 2020 before TODAK even won First Strike.
nocturnal_ [#13]Nope. His main account is still banned. https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/juicySG%23kelly/overview
He's been lying about getting unbanned for cheating for a year, time to call him out. He was unbanned for competing at an illegal age, which the ban expired when he became 16 earlier this year. I follow the MY/SG since 2020 before TODAK even won First Strike.
if he is still banned why no ever took action against him ? hes been competing in many official tournaments
throner [#14]if he is still banned why no ever took action against him ? hes been competing in many official tournaments
He's been going around telling everyone on stream that he got unbanned for cheating, when the fact is his account is still banned for cheating, and also Riot did not release any statement about his unban.
Yes beats me, probably because the TOs thought he got unbanned hence they let him compete in the tournaments, and he's banned from competing in VCT, maybe not 3rd party tournaments.
throner [#14]if he is still banned why no ever took action against him ? hes been competing in many official tournaments
he's banned from competing in vct event but still can play in 3rd party event
kaesra [#16]he's banned from competing in vct event but still can play in 3rd party event
I never heard of him got banned from vct?
I thought it's because underage?
ItsMeDio [#17]I never heard of him got banned from vct?
I thought it's because underage?
masters 1 2021 he got banned for using 3rd party software
nocturnal_ [#11]How is he still competing when he got banned for cheating back in 2021?
- https://www.oneesports.gg/valorant/tmg-will-forfeit-its-masters-1-spot-after-star-player-is-caught-cheating/
- https://twitter.com/juicyvalo/status/1372012678441365507?lang=en
- https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/m6rgrf/juicy_singapore_player_for_tmg_that_qualified_for/
I don't remember seeing any post about him getting unbanned for cheating. I remember that he did receive 2 ban back then, 1 is for competing as an underage and another one for cheating. Are we seriously allowing cheaters to compete in VCT now?
SHEESH this brings back memories
FaydeVLR [#19]SHEESH this brings back memories
So, do you agree or not?
Should we cancel him?
Give us your thought so vlr can decide his career
nocturnal_ [#15]He's been going around telling everyone on stream that he got unbanned for cheating, when the fact is his account is still banned for cheating, and also Riot did not release any statement about his unban.
Yes beats me, probably because the TOs thought he got unbanned hence they let him compete in the tournaments, and he's banned from competing in VCT, maybe not 3rd party tournaments.
but he will be now competing in gxr tournament which is part of vct off season ??
ItsMeDio [#20]So, do you agree or not?
Should we cancel him?Give us your thought so vlr can decide his career
Time to cancel Juicy. Fortnite kid really thought we will forget about what he had done.
nocturnal_ [#11]How is he still competing when he got banned for cheating back in 2021?
- https://www.oneesports.gg/valorant/tmg-will-forfeit-its-masters-1-spot-after-star-player-is-caught-cheating/
- https://twitter.com/juicyvalo/status/1372012678441365507?lang=en
- https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/m6rgrf/juicy_singapore_player_for_tmg_that_qualified_for/
I don't remember seeing any post about him getting unbanned for cheating. I remember that he did receive 2 ban back then, 1 is for competing as an underage and another one for cheating. Are we seriously allowing cheaters to compete in VCT now?
Stop making baseless accusations and spreading misinformation
SilentNight [#23]Stop making baseless accusations and spreading misinformation
Thanks. Almost cancel his entire career
nocturnal_ [#13]Nope. His main account is still banned. https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/juicySG%23kelly/overview
He's been lying about getting unbanned for cheating for a year, time to call him out. He was unbanned for competing at an illegal age, which the ban expired when he became 16 earlier this year. I follow the MY/SG since 2020 before TODAK even won First Strike.
nah tracker says his peak rating is 687rr in episode 3 act 1 after his last recorded gameplat in episode 2 act 2
so he prob anonymised his tracker acc
SilentNight [#23]Stop making baseless accusations and spreading misinformation
That’s him getting his Age Restriction lifted, nothing about his hacking ban was mentioned in your post
what that guy said is not baseless as I was too informed directly by Opal over the phone that Juicy did receive a ban for hacking too, we were then invited to SEA Masters in place of TMG (Juicy’s team)
andrewdamf [#25]Yikes, people on this post seriously trying to cancel a kid for cheating because of a Reddit post.
Clearly lacking some braincells and empathy here
Trying to cancel him over a Reddit post? Do you have trouble clicking the other links I attached? His ban was announced by Riot themselves, even coach Fayde who is directly involved confirmed above that it was true.
FaydeVLR [#27]That’s him getting his Age Restriction lifted, nothing about his hacking ban was mentioned in your post
what that guy said is not baseless as I was too informed directly by Opal over the phone that Juicy did receive a ban for hacking too, we were then invited to SEA Masters in place of TMG (Juicy’s team)
then why no action against him , he is again playing in gxr also hes against you , gxr will take action if you guys report this
throner [#29]then why no action against him , he is again playing in gxr also hes against you , gxr will take action if you guys report this
I don't wanna be that person xd He did show growth over the year as a player, would like to compete against him if his Cheating ban is indeed lifted, but if it isn't I guess Riot will step in themself at some point
nocturnal_ [#28]Trying to cancel him over a Reddit post? Do you have trouble clicking the other links I attached? His ban was announced by Riot themselves, even coach Fayde who is directly involved confirmed above that it was true.
No shit? You're acting like im saying he didnt cheat. If he got banned he obviously cheated, but trying to cancel someone because of a year old ban specially when that same person IS literally a kid with a promising future for your scene is just cringe as fuck. Indo fans are really something out of this world
Ultimateattack [#26]nah tracker says his peak rating is 687rr in episode 3 act 1 after his last recorded gameplat in episode 2 act 2
so he prob anonymised his tracker acc
Nope. It was because we didn't have RR reset that act so his Elo got brought forward to S3 A1. Reset didn't happen every episode back then.
andrewdamf [#31]No shit? You're acting like im saying he didnt cheat. If he got banned he obviously cheated, but trying to cancel someone because of a year old ban specially when that same person IS literally a kid with a promising future for your scene is just cringe as fuck. Indo fans are really something out of this world
It's called holding everyone accountable for their actions regardless of age. So should we encourage the kids to cheat since they can get away for it all because they're underage? Nope. Just read what you're typing, you are contradicting your own words. And why are you bringing my country into this when I'm having a rational conversation with everyone here?
nocturnal_ [#33]It's called holding everyone accountable for their actions regardless of age. So should we encourage the kids to cheat since they can get away for it all because they're underage? Nope. Just read what you're typing, you are contradicting your own words. And why are you bringing my country into this when I'm having a rational conversation with everyone here?
No, Its called forgiving idiot. If you think just because he got banned 1 time he should be perma banned from every event and shouldnt be playing anymore shows your dogshit mentality
But i guess we should re-ban every player that got banned when they were a kid because that makes sense in your head! Why is s1mple even allowed to win a major? Impossible.
And im bringing your "country" because its a joke and im 99% sure you are fake flagging and using other accounts to downfrag every post of mine here lul. But that could be just projecting. But you're clearly obsessed with the kid
Chill a bit lil bro
andrewdamf [#34]No, Its called forgiving idiot. If you think just because he got banned 1 time he should be perma banned from every event and shouldnt be playing anymore shows your dogshit mentality
But i guess we should re-ban every player that got banned when they were a kid because that makes sense in your head! Why is s1mple even allowed to win a major? Impossible.
And im bringing your "country" because its a joke and im 99% sure you are fake flagging and using other accounts to downfrag every post of mine here lul. But that could be just projecting. But you're clearly obsessed with the kid
Chill a bit lil bro
Why is s1mple even allowed to win a major?
wait, s1mple was a cheater in the past? i didn't know that. nice trivia
FaydeVLR [#30]I don't wanna be that person xd He did show growth over the year as a player, would like to compete against him if his Cheating ban is indeed lifted, but if it isn't I guess Riot will step in themself at some point
but, how do we know if doesn't cheating anymore
hmm
From an objective point of view, based on the evidence provided, I find it highly likely that juicy has been either cleared/forgived by riot. No reason for the head of vct sea to send an email reminding bleed of age restrictions instead of cheating since it would have been their main focus. What we can be certain of now that he is definitely not cheating, but we won't know whether he used to be. However, we should also forgive and forget, like stated above, s1mple, one of the greatest csgo player received an esl ban for cheating in csgo
ItsMeDio [#36]but, how do we know if doesn't cheating anymore
hmm
cause he isn't nowhere as good as Shinsei, some of the other bleed acad players and JayH :skull: if he was still cheating how sad must he be cause he still isn't up there lmao
Mooony [#38]From an objective point of view, based on the evidence provided, I find it highly likely that juicy has been either cleared/forgived by riot. No reason for the head of vct sea to send an email reminding bleed of age restrictions instead of cheating since it would have been their main focus. What we can be certain of now that he is definitely not cheating, but we won't know whether he used to be. However, we should also forgive and forget, like stated above, s1mple, one of the greatest csgo player received an esl ban for cheating in csgo
His bans have been lifted since then, otherwise it would not make sense for Bleed to sign him for the ascension roster. I can't imagine they put all the effort to create their academy team then promote him for it all to be cancelled because Juicy can't compete because of a going ban.
Mooony [#38]From an objective point of view, based on the evidence provided, I find it highly likely that juicy has been either cleared/forgived by riot. No reason for the head of vct sea to send an email reminding bleed of age restrictions instead of cheating since it would have been their main focus. What we can be certain of now that he is definitely not cheating, but we won't know whether he used to be. However, we should also forgive and forget, like stated above, s1mple, one of the greatest csgo player received an esl ban for cheating in csgo
I don't think theres any evidence out there that points towards the direction of him being cleared from the cheating ban yet, and that email looks like Bleed asking them if Juicy can participate in any VCT tournament and Opal only replied to what they asked
You can't use s1mple as an example because his ban was imposed by ESL not Valve. While Juicy's ban was given directly by Riot when he was playing in VCT, the difference between cheating in a 3rd party tournament to the main circuit is day & night. Riot has a rule to follow, you can't just forgive & forget something like this just because he's a better player now
FaydeVLR [#42]I don't think theres any evidence out there that points towards the direction of him being cleared from the cheating ban yet, and that email looks like Bleed asking them if Juicy can participate in any VCT tournament and Opal only replied to what they asked
You can't use s1mple as an example because his ban was imposed by ESL not Valve. While Juicy's ban was given directly by Riot when he was playing in VCT, the difference between cheating in a 3rd party tournament to the main circuit is day & night. Riot has a rule to follow, you can't just forgive & forget something like this just because he's a better player now
Regarding the evidence, I meant it more as an inference to the email reply, since if bleed did ask if juicy could participate in vct, and juicy is a known cheater by riot, opal would have said no bcos he cheater rather than talk about age restrictions.
Regarding s1mple, it's not really about the type of ban since even s1mple himself confirmed he did cheated in the past.
Once again, at the end of the day we don't really know whether he cheated and will depend on riot's knowledge and jurisdiction. I'm only suggesting a possibility that he may not have cheated due to the replies but again, we will only truly know from riot
Luck_ [#7]juicy deserves to be on the roster 100000%
but jayh is better than retla, crazyguy (imo) and he has been playing better than sscary recently. he needs to stay!
no fucking way crazyguy is the best player on the team, retla maybe, but I still think retla is way more consistent
C310 [#41]His bans have been lifted since then, otherwise it would not make sense for Bleed to sign him for the ascension roster. I can't imagine they put all the effort to create their academy team then promote him for it all to be cancelled because Juicy can't compete because of a going ban.
Thinking about huge oversight of Bleed if the ban is not lifted yet, I hope they make a statement or reply in some form. I actually agree with Fayde on the ruling issue of Riot in cheating regards those are things that shouldn't be easily disregarded.
C310 [#45]Thinking about huge oversight of Bleed if the ban is not lifted yet, I hope they make a statement or reply in some form. I actually agree with Fayde on the ruling issue of Riot in cheating regards those are things that shouldn't be easily disregarded.
Ye I fully agree that clarification from either one or both parties will be important for us to understand the whole situation. Besides that, we can only speculate
nocturnal_ [#32]Nope. It was because we didn't have RR reset that act so his Elo got brought forward to S3 A1. Reset didn't happen every episode back then.
isnt for playing masters1 2021 when he 14 years old?
ItsMeDio [#35]Why is s1mple even allowed to win a major?
wait, s1mple was a cheater in the past? i didn't know that. nice trivia
he cheated on esea tournaments and got banned by the anti-cheat when he was like 11
ImpressioN [#48]
W
Nice fast statement by Bleed🩸. Hopefully it clears out the things people have spread here in this thread.
FlyingDoggoWoweeClap6 [#2]cool
Hijacking this comment to tell people to scroll all the way down #48 for the reply to controversy by bleed head of esports
Luck_ [#7]juicy deserves to be on the roster 100000%
but jayh is better than retla, crazyguy (imo) and he has been playing better than sscary recently. he needs to stay!
crazyguy is in game lead in his 2nd language and been consistenly fragging out among the top 2 in the team or close. Jayh is better than sscary and juicy as of now though unless sscary ever find his peak again.
tofubun [#53]crazyguy is in game lead in his 2nd language and been consistenly fragging out among the top 2 in the team or close. Jayh is better than sscary and juicy as of now though unless sscary ever find his peak again.
Yeah. Imo they take rental off the active roster, it helps roles more as sscary can play main smokes, deryeon can be chamber and juicy as duelist while we still get the huge firepower from jayh. Retla is good but to benefit the roles, and to have more individual skill, I think it would be better to remove him for jayh.
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