Harbor

Why does it feel like Riot deliberately nerfed him before release itself. some simple buffs would have made him so good. For e.g- his bubble could have stayed after breaking the seal, his ult could have stunned faster(or for more duration), his walls could have more slow duration , tidal wave could be bullet proof etc. Whatever they thought its not working-he has very low pick rate in ranked and I doubt any top pro team will pick him. They should buff him asap if they want to change meta

true. harbor need buff

i think its better they dont overpower him on release and balance him along the way

I dont think every agent needs to be meta changing and while i agree he is weaker than the other controllers he does bring some different things to the table as far as controllers go.

KASAA [#4]

I dont think every agent needs to be meta changing and while i agree he is weaker than the other controllers he does bring some different things to the table as far as controllers go.

Maybe but the question is - are the new things that he brings useful enough ?(for pro or ranked)

kaesra [#3]

i think its better they dont overpower him on release and balance him along the way

Hopefully they do it fast cuz right now almost no one is playing him

Valhalla23140 [#5]

Maybe but the question is - are the new things that he brings useful enough ?(for pro or ranked)

thats a good point, i think he brings a different way of playing controller which can be cool to see how utility savvy teams can use and play around him. I think he will be better in pro play than ranked, i think for ranked he is troll but pro play can really be a good if teams can use him well (obviously) like if prx or some team that are crazy strategical and good with util can have some crazy execs .

Feel like they actually did a pretty good job with him. They made him niche enough to be valuable on a few maps and not an agent that will be overused on every map. Gives teams more options to create their own style rather than force a new meta, like the addition of Chamber did

just make the orb have similar health as a sage wall rather than being able to kill it in 2 bullets, would also make his wall duration shorter and in turn bring the CD down so can use it 2/3 times a round, much like omen/astra can with there smokes.
Going through the water should be audiable, currently it doesnt feel like there is too much penalty for stepping through the wall.

Do think the ulti is fine though.

Any meta where harbor is good will be cancer bro mark my words

Danny [#10]

Any meta where harbor is good will be cancer bro mark my words

why tho? He will be like a anti post plant agent imo

don’t think i’ve ever seen a new agent get so little play in the first week of release i’ve seen him like once

Valhalla23140 [#11]

why tho? He will be like a anti post plant agent imo

He’s so annoying bro leave shield metas to overwatch and r6

turkey [#12]

don’t think i’ve ever seen a new agent get so little play in the first week of release i’ve seen him like once

exactly

i think riot deliberately made him not have any stalling utility
his whole point is to play agresively even on defense which challenges our original and used to game style of playing passive on defense
and on attack he is gr8 for entry