Is SEN now considered a top tier team?

With sacy pancada and the others
I cant wait to see nrg vs sen is loud vs optic

Yes, they hired the champions mvp and one of the most smart brains on valorant

number1_MIBR_hater [#2]

Yes, they hired the champions mvp and one of the most smart brains on valorant

Wasnt less the champions mvp?

On paper its probably one of the best, just depends on how the chemistry goes, but with the coaching they have I feel like everything will be fine :)

esney [#3]

Wasnt less the champions mvp?

yes, pancada was the final mvp

luizphelipe82 [#5]

yes, pancada was the final mvp

Aspas was the finals MVP

NRG is downgraded OpTic and SEN is downgraded LOUD

but still good

patuj [#7]

NRG is downgraded OpTic and SEN is downgraded LOUD

but still good

Then what is liquid a downgrade from gambit?

From what i have seen Zekken ans Tenz are both crazy (tenz a bit inconsistent) and ofc the brazilian imports are top tier I guess dephh is kind of the weakest link. In my opinion they will not win everything at the start but if they can adapt and improve they can definitely start winning tourneys again

number1_MIBR_hater [#6]

Aspas was the finals MVP

A lot of miscomunication here.

esney [#8]

Then what is liquid a downgrade from gambit?

Pretty much it

esney [#8]

Then what is liquid a downgrade from gambit?

I guess it depends who you ask, but I think Liquid changes actually upgrade both Gambit and Liquid in current meta at least. Liquid finally gets proper IGL while nAts is upgrade over Nivera, while Gambit finally gets proper good OP/Chamber player actually 2 of them and I also feel like both of teams were kind of stuck and needed changes. While in the other hand LOUD was IMO better on paper than new SEN roster and same especially for OpTic. OpTic pretty much lost their arguably 2 best players and both got replaced with at least slightly worse players.

This might be biased take and ofc individual wise I would rather pick guy like Chronicle over Soulcas, but I don't think its going to make big difference. I still think these changes may fix some of TL and Gambit problems. And overall this year both LOUD and OpTic were better than TL or Gambit, but with these chances I think they are going back at least little bit while TL is in my head going to do better compared to this year. TL still might have some role problems with Jamppi and Sayf but I think one of them can flex to proper entry/flex role.

Mca [#10]

A lot of miscomunication here.

tenz was the finals MVP

depends on t0nz wheter he adjust to chamber or not
i still think SEN really needs stronger op player in order to be considered as a superteam
but in the same time SEN can't lose the viewership and t0nz's fan base
overall they are strong team now + coach + management

patuj [#7]

NRG is downgraded OpTic and SEN is downgraded LOUD

but still good

That was extremely accurate. However, the downgrade version of Optic is much better than the downgrade version of LOUD. Sentinels got only 2 LOUD's players wich did not include their IGL. Ardiis and Som are good replacements for Yay and Marved. I'm not sure if you can say the same for Zekken, Deph and Tenz, specially comparing them to Aspas, Saadhak and Less.

TheSky7 [#15]

That was extremely accurate. However, the downgrade version of Optic is much better than the downgrade version of LOUD. Sentinels got only 2 LOUD's players wich did not include their IGL. Ardiis and Som are good replacements for Yay and Marved. I'm not sure if you can say the same for Zekken, Deph and Tenz, specially comparing them to Aspas, Saadhak and Less.

last time TenZ had a team where he did not need to hard carry every single game in order to win he won a LAN

patuj [#7]

NRG is downgraded OpTic and SEN is downgraded LOUD

but still good

Why would SEN be considered downgraded LOUD if the majority of LOUD stayed with the org?

Mca [#10]

A lot of miscomunication here.

i think aspas was the game mvp and pancada was the mvp of the tournament