LiebertyVAL [#4]W post. But Indians had same issue when they played on SG servers. I think we need to come to a common point and that is to ask Riot for a mutual server for the region. With GE getting franchise and so many upcoming tourneys, Riot should definitely think of this
ge wont be playing mickey mouse tournaments anymore the same reason they are playing as Franchise players and not ge
LiebertyVAL [#4]W post. But Indians had same issue when they played on SG servers. I think we need to come to a common point and that is to ask Riot for a mutual server for the region. With GE getting franchise and so many upcoming tourneys, Riot should definitely think of this
GE is perma moving to KOREA
Nezko_ [#7]ge wont be playing mickey mouse tournaments anymore the same reason they are playing as Franchise players and not ge
Lmao yeah we’ll see that soon
Nezko_ [#7]ge wont be playing mickey mouse tournaments anymore the same reason they are playing as Franchise players and not ge
TSM said that we saw what happened to TSM 💀
Why were SEA teams so happy beating SA teams on 60-70 ping for the past 2 years?
The post would have been fair if you made a similar post 2 years ago for SA teams. Unfortunately at the moment, you just need to take the L and stfu.
Learn to take losses and not make excuses. I don't hear the players from Xerxia complaining too much about it?
yamigamidark [#6]tbh all indian need move to chennai
Yes or even mumbai is fine because they get 50-60 ping
Thai get 30-40 on sg
SnooTangerines [#13]Why were SEA teams so happy beating SA teams on 60-70 ping for the past 2 years?
The post would have been fair if you made a similar post 2 years ago for SA teams. Unfortunately at the moment, you just need to take the L and stfu.
Learn to take losses and not make excuses. I don't hear the players from Xerxia complaining too much about it?
dude the problem is mumbai server is shit. we got packet los 10-20%. i mean we r not problem if got 60-70 but the packet loss really make HUGE different
SnooTangerines [#13]Why were SEA teams so happy beating SA teams on 60-70 ping for the past 2 years?
The post would have been fair if you made a similar post 2 years ago for SA teams. Unfortunately at the moment, you just need to take the L and stfu.
Learn to take losses and not make excuses. I don't hear the players from Xerxia complaining too much about it?
Bro GE went to SG and we saw what happened. Not one international VCT victory.
LiebertyVAL [#10]Lmao yeah we’ll see that soon
They will move to kr for trails so how they are gonna participate in local tourneys? Use your brain
SnooTangerines [#13]Why were SEA teams so happy beating SA teams on 60-70 ping for the past 2 years?
The post would have been fair if you made a similar post 2 years ago for SA teams. Unfortunately at the moment, you just need to take the L and stfu.
Learn to take losses and not make excuses. I don't hear the players from Xerxia complaining too much about it?
Indians get 50-60 ping on sg . I have so many ss at this point idk what u tryna say . Thai get 40 ping on sg
It's as fair as you can get honestly or just move to Chennai you get better ping
yamigamidark [#15]dude the problem is mumbai server is shit. we got packet los 10-20%. i mean we r not problem if got 60-70 but the packet loss really make HUGE different
I never really experience packet loss after mid 2021 tbh whenever i play mumbai. It might depend on internet tbh
yamigamidark [#15]dude the problem is mumbai server is shit. we got packet los 10-20%. i mean we r not problem if got 60-70 but the packet loss really make HUGE different
Packet loss and ping are different. If you get packet loss that means you Internet is shit according to how networking works.
Get a better Internet. Not that tough for pro teams. "mumbai server is shit" > Not TEC's problem or any Indian org's either. Ask Riot to make a better server.
SG server is equivalently shit for Indians. I get 10% packet loss and 90 ping where I am from while I can play with 30-40 ping with 0% packet loss on Mumbai servers.
yamigamidark [#15]dude the problem is mumbai server is shit. we got packet los 10-20%. i mean we r not problem if got 60-70 but the packet loss really make HUGE different
Its your internet problem bruv how is mumbai server responsible for packet loss🗿
JiangLi [#18]Indians get 50-60 ping on sg . I have so many ss at this point idk what u tryna say . Thai get 40 ping on sg
It's as fair as you can get honestly or just move to Chennai you get better ping
50-60 ping is on bootcamp or really good wifi connections though...
otherwise its 65-75 ping.
SnooTangerines [#20]Packet loss and ping are different. If you get packet loss that means you Internet is shit according to how networking works.
Get a better Internet. Not that tough for pro teams. "mumbai server is shit" > Not TEC's problem or any Indian org's either. Ask Riot to make a better server.
SG server is equivalently shit for Indians. I get 10% packet loss and 90 ping where I am from while I can play with 30-40 ping with 0% packet loss on Mumbai servers.
They are too uneducated to know how packet loss works.
LiebertyVAL [#10]Lmao yeah we’ll see that soon
Are you dumb ? They will be in Korea how will they will play ? Moreover franchise agreement allows the orgs to participate in riot official tournaments only
LiebertyVAL [#16]Bro GE went to SG and we saw what happened. Not one international VCT victory.
What can ping do if you have Lord KappA and hellranger in ur team
Vampli [#22]50-60 ping is on bootcamp or really good wifi connections though...
otherwise its 65-75 ping.
Yeah so pro players are on bootcamp or good inet right ? I don't see the problem
JiangLi [#18]Indians get 50-60 ping on sg . I have so many ss at this point idk what u tryna say . Thai get 40 ping on sg
It's as fair as you can get honestly or just move to Chennai you get better ping
50-60 ping was possible recently only i can show proofs of 70 ping aswell go look at any pros stream from 2-3 months back
Nezko_ [#27]50-60 ping was possible recently only i can show proofs of 70 ping aswell go look at any pros stream from 2-3 months back
Thats what im tryna say. Until a few months ago it was always around 70
Quagmire [#28]Thats what im tryna say. Until a few months ago it was always around 70
Average delusional sa hater what can i say
JiangLi [#26]Yeah so pro players are on bootcamp or good inet right ? I don't see the problem
Only possible recently this is the problem earlier used to be 70 ping
JiangLi [#18]Indians get 50-60 ping on sg . I have so many ss at this point idk what u tryna say . Thai get 40 ping on sg
It's as fair as you can get honestly or just move to Chennai you get better ping
I want you to send 1 screenshot of a player from Mumbai getting 55ms or less ping in SG.
Requirements > The ping should objectively be lower than 55.
and > The player should be confirmed to be staying in Mumbai at the time. Not like Rossi who is in Bangalore (his hometown and close to Chennai).
Do not send me the Rite2Ace tweet or something. Send me in game screenshots where I can see ping in game. In my justification here is a link to Rossi's stream which is confirmed to be from Mumbai (the black paint walls are in his bootcamp)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVD_kCKZtxo
You can very clearly see around 70 average ping.
just move to Chennai you get better ping
IDK what to say but moving to Chennai is not easy mate. It's a city with much less accessibility and options. Moving to Chennai is like moving to a new country but with lesser opportunities. Seems like a dumb statement. Living in Singapore you would probably not understand.
When I personally lived in Chennai for 2 years. Things were not like what you are used to in India. Everything is different. Language, culture, food. Its a huge undertaking for small Indian orgs like Revenant.
Apart from ping to SEA servers, moving to Chennai is an downgrade in every aspect for an Indian org.
Edit: The stream I linked is an really old stream here is an much more recent stream:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ngq0S3RrW4
He is still getting 70 ping.
After around July he just went home since his 2022 season ended.
Nezko_ [#27]50-60 ping was possible recently only i can show proofs of 70 ping aswell go look at any pros stream from 2-3 months back
No need to show proof because I already know Indian pro players got above 70 ping earlier.
But now I have seen many players with 54-55 ping in mumbai. I have seen SkRossi and many other pro players who have locked 48 ping on flaring's stream
Diebs [#8]Cointoss is always FAIR unless you have a biased coin no?
Like that one coin from sholay movie if you know xD
Nezko_ [#29]Average delusional sa hater what can i say
Who is hating on India lmao
I don't get your victim mentality lmao I'm not even hating on anyone here
JiangLi [#32]No need to show proof because I already know Indian pro players got above 70 ping earlier.
But now I have seen many players with 54-55 ping in mumbai. I have seen SkRossi and many other pro players who have locked 48 ping on flaring's stream
Rossi is in his hometown for the past 2-3 months?
SnooTangerines [#35]Rossi is in his hometown for the past 2-3 months?
Not only him but other players too who have 45-55 ping .
Average Thai ping in 35-40 btw
yamigamidark [#15]dude the problem is mumbai server is shit. we got packet los 10-20%. i mean we r not problem if got 60-70 but the packet loss really make HUGE different
I play on NA server with 450ms+ ping with 0 packet loss KEKW
SnooTangerines [#31]I want you to send 1 screenshot of a player from Mumbai getting 55ms or less ping in SG.
Requirements > The ping should objectively be lower than 55.
and > The player should be confirmed to be staying in Mumbai at the time. Not like Rossi who is in Bangalore (his hometown and close to Chennai).
Do not send me the Rite2Ace tweet or something. Send me in game screenshots where I can see ping in game. In my justification here is a link to Rossi's stream which is confirmed to be from Mumbai (the black paint walls are in his bootcamp)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVD_kCKZtxoYou can very clearly see around 70 average ping.
just move to Chennai you get better ping
IDK what to say but moving to Chennai is not easy mate. It's a city with much less accessibility and options. Moving to Chennai is like moving to a new country but with lesser opportunities. Seems like a dumb statement. Living in Singapore you would probably not understand.
When I personally lived in Chennai for 2 years. Things were not like what you are used to in India. Everything is different. Language, culture, food. Its a huge undertaking for small Indian orgs like Revenant.
Apart from ping to SEA servers, moving to Chennai is an downgrade in every aspect for an Indian org.
Edit: The stream I linked is an really old stream here is an much more recent stream:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ngq0S3RrW4He is still getting 70 ping.
After around July he just went home since his 2022 season ended.
I can't find you the proofs because I've seen them a lot of ss on vlr only and also see on stream a lot of times
Also yes I don't understand how another city like Chennai is downgrade. Do you not speak English or Hindi or maybe I just don't know
JiangLi [#36]Not only him but other players too who have 45-55 ping .
Average Thai ping in 35-40 btw
Can you name these players? I am trying to put as many facts and numbers to prove my point here.
Rossi factually left Mumbai for Bangalore for the past 2-3 months because his 2022 season ended 2-3 months ago. His background has also changed to his home background makes sense right?
Who are these other Indian pros that have this unimaginably fast internet that breaks the laws of currently available technology and able to provide 40-55 ping from Mumbai?
kaesra [#2]xia lost fair and square now stfu 🥱
Yeah fair enough or I'll get fined 20% of any turnament winning
LiebertyVAL [#12]TSM said that we saw what happened to TSM 💀
Bruh you are just brain ded. Leave this forum and stop making a fool out of yourself here.
JiangLi [#38]I can't find you the proofs because I've seen them a lot of ss on vlr only and also see on stream a lot of times
Also yes I don't understand how another city like Chennai is downgrade. Do you not speak English or Hindi or maybe I just don't know
Moving from mumbai to Chennai is like moving to an entire different country. Different cultures and languages. Its not easy
JiangLi [#38]I can't find you the proofs because I've seen them a lot of ss on vlr only and also see on stream a lot of times
Also yes I don't understand how another city like Chennai is downgrade. Do you not speak English or Hindi or maybe I just don't know
Mumbai > One of the best cities in India, easy connectivity, easy flights, easy communication, you can get all local Indian cuisine here, people actually know Hindi + English.
Chennai > 7th 8th best city in terms of development but only for South Indians. Very far from the homes of most players. Nobody speaks Hindi. Only educated people speak English. Harder to get network around the city + not many opportunities here.
SnooTangerines [#39]Can you name these players? I am trying to put as many facts and numbers to prove my point here.
Rossi factually left Mumbai for Bangalore for the past 2-3 months because his 2022 season ended 2-3 months ago. His background has also changed to his home background makes sense right?
Who are these other Indian pros that have this unimaginably fast internet that breaks the laws of currently available technology and able to provide 40-55 ping from Mumbai?
I can't name you the pros because I don't remember them myself. Also Chennai can't be the only city where you get low ping . I've 3 stacked and got Indians with 35 ping ?
What about other cities like Bangalore if u say Chennai is so different ?
Quagmire [#42]Moving from mumbai to Chennai is like moving to an entire different country. Different cultures and languages. Its not easy
Ok then what about Bangalore? Don't tell me Bangalore is bad ping because I've seen players with 35 ping playing in Bangalore or so they said
SnooTangerines [#43]Mumbai > One of the best cities in India, easy connectivity, easy flights, easy communication, you can get all local Indian cuisine here, people actually know Hindi + English.
Chennai > 7th 8th best city in terms of development but only for South Indians. Very far from the homes of most players. Nobody speaks Hindi. Only educated people speak English. Harder to get network around the city + not many opportunities here.
And Bangalore? What about other cities in South where u get low ping ?
Chennai surely can't be the only option
JiangLi [#19]I never really experience packet loss after mid 2021 tbh whenever i play mumbai. It might depend on internet tbh
Lu orang indo apa sg bro? Orang jakarta bukan?
JiangLi [#38]I can't find you the proofs because I've seen them a lot of ss on vlr only and also see on stream a lot of times
Also yes I don't understand how another city like Chennai is downgrade. Do you not speak English or Hindi or maybe I just don't know
A lot of people do not speak Hindi in Chennai and also the fact that Mumbai is a corporate hub makes it a better fit for orgs to be so that they could grow better.
JiangLi [#34]Who is hating on India lmao
I don't get your victim mentality lmao I'm not even hating on anyone here
Kek you don't get our victim mentality when there are like 100 hate threads daily, people being blatantly racists towards us , hatespeech
JiangLi [#45]Ok then what about Bangalore? Don't tell me Bangalore is bad ping because I've seen players with 35 ping playing in Bangalore or so they said
Bangalore doesn't speak Hindi aswell
Chad101 [#48]A lot of people do not speak Hindi in Chennai and also the fact that Mumbai is a corporate hub makes it a better fit for orgs to be so that they could grow better.
Mumbai is a corporate hub for what ?
A simple Google search show me how Bangalore is tech capital with many international companies and where you get 30-40 ping to SG . Tell me that isn't possible now
Nezko_ [#50]Bangalore doesn't speak Hindi aswell
Moreover none of the south indian cities speak Hindi
Extremely few population in the south speaks Hindi, moreover not all of them have good routing
Nezko_ [#50]Bangalore doesn't speak Hindi aswell
Speak English right? I know this for sure because many ethnic Indians have come from there
Now English is a problem to you?
JiangLi [#51]Mumbai is a corporate hub for what ?
A simple Google search show me how Bangalore is tech capital with many international companies and where you get 30-40 ping to SG . Tell me that isn't possible now
It's the silicon valley of india. It's only progressive for startups (generally tech) and its more like a technology hub
JiangLi [#53]Speak English right? I know this for sure because many ethnic Indians have come from there
Now English is a problem to you?
Not all only educated people the majority speaks kannada
JiangLi [#38]I can't find you the proofs because I've seen them a lot of ss on vlr only and also see on stream a lot of times
Also yes I don't understand how another city like Chennai is downgrade. Do you not speak English or Hindi or maybe I just don't know
Look man, no disrespect but here I have actual evidence linking you streams and asking you to pause the 5 hour stream at any moment and look at the ping.
I have even explained Rossi's location and how it affects ping to SG servers.
While you or these other people who are complaining about ping have not brought any solid evidence to prove that Mumbai gets 55 ping to SG.
In fact you know what? I will bring science into it cause I have been studying tech for the past 3 years.
Distance to Mumbai to SG is 6700KM.
The speed of light in a Vacuum is 300,000KM/sec.
Therefore the speed of light in an optical fibre would be nearly 200,000KM/sec because refractive index of the material.
Therefore light would take 33.5ms to travel from SG to Mumbai. That is already 67ms round trip time that is the mimimum theoretical possible value.
We can also calculate the one way distance.
Valorant works on 128 tick servers so that is around 8ms on the client side and 8 ms on the server side delay added. Total of 16ms.
Accounting for the fact that your game is updating at 200FPS, add another 5ms.
Adding all these numbers up, you are already up to 55ms. This is the theoretical maximum assuming your ISP and network switches are perfect and do not add any delay (which they do btw).
Anything less than 55ms is just theoretically impossible unless for some reason Indonesia and Thailand has different laws of physics and computer science than India.
JiangLi [#51]Mumbai is a corporate hub for what ?
A simple Google search show me how Bangalore is tech capital with many international companies and where you get 30-40 ping to SG . Tell me that isn't possible now
I mean I am from Bangalore and yes it's more or less similar in terms of how established the cities are.
But idk man, except for GE, up until now, 95% of the tourneys that they play are within SA so ig to capitalise on that they had it set up in Mumbai.
And now since they have made significant capital investments there. I dont think they'll shift to Bangalore.
Especially considering the fact that only GE made it to franchise, resulting in other orgs main tourney which they'll play of SG server will be Ascension.
So i don't think they'll shift just bcoz of that.
SnooTangerines [#56]Look man, no disrespect but here I have actual evidence linking you streams and asking you to pause the 5 hour stream at any moment and look at the ping.
I have even explained Rossi's location and how it affects ping to SG servers.
While you or these other people who are complaining about ping have not brought any solid evidence to prove that Mumbai gets 55 ping to SG.
In fact you know what? I will bring science into it cause I have been studying tech for the past 3 years.
Distance to Mumbai to SG is 6700KM.
The speed of light in a Vacuum is 300,000KM/sec.
Therefore the speed of light in an optical fibre would be nearly 200,000KM/sec because refractive index of the material.Therefore light would take 33.5ms to travel from SG to Mumbai. That is already 67ms round trip time that is the mimimum theoretical possible value.
We can also calculate the one way distance.
Valorant works on 128 tick servers so that is around 8ms on the client side and 8 ms on the server side delay added. Total of 16ms.
Accounting for the fact that your game is updating at 200FPS, add another 5ms.
Adding all these numbers up, you are already up to 55ms. This is the theoretical maximum assuming your ISP and network switches are perfect and do not add any delay (which they do btw).
Anything less than 55ms is just theoretically impossible unless for some reason Indonesia and Thailand has different laws of physics and computer science than India.
Dayum brotha.
IIT se ho kya bro XD.
SnooTangerines [#56]Look man, no disrespect but here I have actual evidence linking you streams and asking you to pause the 5 hour stream at any moment and look at the ping.
I have even explained Rossi's location and how it affects ping to SG servers.
While you or these other people who are complaining about ping have not brought any solid evidence to prove that Mumbai gets 55 ping to SG.
In fact you know what? I will bring science into it cause I have been studying tech for the past 3 years.
Distance to Mumbai to SG is 6700KM.
The speed of light in a Vacuum is 300,000KM/sec.
Therefore the speed of light in an optical fibre would be nearly 200,000KM/sec because refractive index of the material.Therefore light would take 33.5ms to travel from SG to Mumbai. That is already 67ms round trip time that is the mimimum theoretical possible value.
We can also calculate the one way distance.
Valorant works on 128 tick servers so that is around 8ms on the client side and 8 ms on the server side delay added. Total of 16ms.
Accounting for the fact that your game is updating at 200FPS, add another 5ms.
Adding all these numbers up, you are already up to 55ms. This is the theoretical maximum assuming your ISP and network switches are perfect and do not add any delay (which they do btw).
Anything less than 55ms is just theoretically impossible unless for some reason Indonesia and Thailand has different laws of physics and computer science than India.
No hate but they too dumb to understand what you wrote
Chad101 [#57]I mean I am from Bangalore and yes it's more or less similar in terms of how established the cities are.
But idk man, except for GE, up until now, 95% of the tourneys that they play are within SA so ig to capitalise on that they had it set up in Mumbai.
And now since they have made significant capital investments there. I dont think they'll shift to Bangalore.
Especially considering the fact that only GE made it to franchise, resulting in other orgs main tourney which they'll play of SG server will be Ascension.
So i don't think they'll shift just bcoz of that.
Exactly so they can but they don't want to because they alr spent much on mumbai . I understand that but pushing the narrative of Indians can't get low ping to SG seems bs now
From what i can tell from just a Google search is i can survive in Bangalore with English just fine
JiangLi [#44]I can't name you the pros because I don't remember them myself. Also Chennai can't be the only city where you get low ping . I've 3 stacked and got Indians with 35 ping ?
What about other cities like Bangalore if u say Chennai is so different ?
Alright I will be honest with you.
You do not understand the Indian culture too well.
Bangalore is a tech hub since the state (Karnataka) passed an IT law very long ago which promoted tech in the city.
A lot of my seniors are doing jobs there but the experience is generally not that great. I can link to you resources -
https://www.reddit.com/r/bangalore/comments/qah511/my_experience_regarding_the_unspoken_but/
https://www.reddit.com/r/bangalore/comments/rrca6b/please_stop_bashing_north_indians/
https://www.reddit.com/r/india/comments/1f0thw/any_tales_from_north_indians_who_grew_up_in_south/
Bangalore and other South Indian cities are hostile towards North Indians which is basically like 70% of the population.
A lot of my seniors have witnessed it firsthand - Taxis refusing to pick up north Indians.
Restaurants refusing to serve people who cannot order in the local language.
Domestic workers and Shopkeepers not trying to help people who do not know the local language.
Chennai and Bangalore are in the same ballpark.
SnooTangerines [#56]Look man, no disrespect but here I have actual evidence linking you streams and asking you to pause the 5 hour stream at any moment and look at the ping.
I have even explained Rossi's location and how it affects ping to SG servers.
While you or these other people who are complaining about ping have not brought any solid evidence to prove that Mumbai gets 55 ping to SG.
In fact you know what? I will bring science into it cause I have been studying tech for the past 3 years.
Distance to Mumbai to SG is 6700KM.
The speed of light in a Vacuum is 300,000KM/sec.
Therefore the speed of light in an optical fibre would be nearly 200,000KM/sec because refractive index of the material.Therefore light would take 33.5ms to travel from SG to Mumbai. That is already 67ms round trip time that is the mimimum theoretical possible value.
We can also calculate the one way distance.
Valorant works on 128 tick servers so that is around 8ms on the client side and 8 ms on the server side delay added. Total of 16ms.
Accounting for the fact that your game is updating at 200FPS, add another 5ms.
Adding all these numbers up, you are already up to 55ms. This is the theoretical maximum assuming your ISP and network switches are perfect and do not add any delay (which they do btw).
Anything less than 55ms is just theoretically impossible unless for some reason Indonesia and Thailand has different laws of physics and computer science than India.
Bro are you dumb or what ? It all depends on routine of internet. Why are you telling me light speed and distance bs .
I get a better ping to KR servers but i will not get a better ping from KR to SG because routing is shit .
Same way i get less ping to Tokyo servers than an Indonesian because sg routing is good even tho Indo is less distance to Tokyo .
Just accept it dude . Your orgs have the option to move to better cities like Bangalore just like na pros move to Texas but will not do that . Tbh it's fine if you don't move to another city but also dont say you get 70+ ping from Mumbai
Nezko_ [#55]Not all only educated people the majority speaks kannada
A Google search tell me you can live with just English there . Indian pros know Hindi as well so it's even more possible
It's not easy to leave your home i get it but don't push false narrative pls
JiangLi [#64]Bro are you dumb or what ? It all depends on routine of internet. Why are you telling me light speed and distance bs .
I get a better ping to KR servers but i will not get a better ping from KR to SG because routing is shit .
Same way i get less ping to Tokyo servers than an Indonesian because sg routing is good even tho Indo is less distance to Tokyo .
Just accept it dude . Your orgs have the option to move to better cities like Bangalore just like na pros move to Texas but will not do that . Tbh it's fine if you don't move to another city but also dont say you get 70+ ping from Mumbai
#59 confirmed?
Have a look at this
Vampli [#25]What can ping do if you have Lord KappA and hellranger in ur team
Bro his flags says it all lmao
ragnar28 [#67]Guys ʘ‿ʘ
It's off season event. Just enjoy the game. Its not like teams are getting qualified to regional or international official events from result of this tournament.
This
SnooTangerines [#66]#59 confirmed?
Have a look at this
What you said is right but routing does matter tho because I get less ping to Mumbai than you probably . Also I looked in SkRossi stream which are more than 2 months old and he was hovering 59- 61 ping.
But I'm not even talking about that . I'm trying to understand why you think Mumbai is the only city from where it's possible to play Val
JiangLi [#70]What you said is right but routing does matter tho because I get less ping to Mumbai than you probably . Also I looked in SkRossi stream which are more than 2 months old and he was hovering 59- 61 ping.
But I'm not even talking about that . I'm trying to understand why you think Mumbai is the only city from where it's possible to play Val
Yes routing matters.
The calculations I showed is for the best possible routing. Anything in real life will be more than this.
Once again, I have linked some Reddit posts for you #61.
Moving to South Indian cities is not easy. Definitely not for an improvement of 30ms ping.
If you want to understand in US terms - Mumbai is like New York of India, well rounded developed city for people from all walks of life.
Bangalore is like California (silicon valley) but worse. Silicon valley is only feasible if you work in tech. For everything else its just too expensive.
Ofc you have factors that I have mentioned in #61.
Nezko_ [#49]Kek you don't get our victim mentality when there are like 100 hate threads daily, people being blatantly racists towards us , hatespeech
I understand the feelings but He never said anything racist here so I think it's all good
LiebertyVAL [#4]W post. But Indians had same issue when they played on SG servers. I think we need to come to a common point and that is to ask Riot for a mutual server for the region. With GE getting franchise and so many upcoming tourneys, Riot should definitely think of this
Dude everybody will go and play in Seoul...
JiangLi [#44]I can't name you the pros because I don't remember them myself. Also Chennai can't be the only city where you get low ping . I've 3 stacked and got Indians with 35 ping ?
What about other cities like Bangalore if u say Chennai is so different ?
See any place which falls in the same coastal line as Chennai will get the same ping as any player from Chennai will get on Singapore. And yeah should be quite in the South of India. So that's why any player who plays from Chennai or in any coastal area or place below Chennai will get 35-40 ms because that is quite closer to Singapore compared to like the rest of India. I don't know to which extent it's true but I live in Chennai so could quite tell
Rebellion2408 [#72]I understand the feelings but He never said anything racist here so I think it's all good
He is one of the most reasonable people on this forum.
Yet for some reason he too is ignoring facts and believing hearsay.
SnooTangerines [#75]He is one of the most reasonable people on this forum.
Yet for some reason he too is ignoring facts and believing hearsay.
Now I understand like him saying that is like ignoring facts but I don't believe he was racist in any way that's what I was saying here nothing else
Vampli [#25]What can ping do if you have Lord KappA and hellranger in ur team
Xenophobic hai wo chutiya chod
SnooTangerines [#71]Yes routing matters.
The calculations I showed is for the best possible routing. Anything in real life will be more than this.
Once again, I have linked some Reddit posts for you #61.
Moving to South Indian cities is not easy. Definitely not for an improvement of 30ms ping.
If you want to understand in US terms - Mumbai is like New York of India, well rounded developed city for people from all walks of life.
Bangalore is like California (silicon valley) but worse. Silicon valley is only feasible if you work in tech. For everything else its just too expensive.
Ofc you have factors that I have mentioned in #61.
HUH what did i just read at that reddit post 💀
I never knew Indian cities were divided
I only thought if better ping and good city why not move there but from the reddit post it straight up scary WHATAFACK it just better to stay in mumbai
yamigamidark [#6]tbh all indian need move to chennai
all SEA should relocate themself for Off-season tournaments!! doesn't that make sense
JiangLi [#46]And Bangalore? What about other cities in South where u get low ping ?
Chennai surely can't be the only option
but just take example of Global they have already invested in Mumbai base bootcamp, why would they relocate them self for tournaments with SEA teams which were very rare 2 months ago...even vlt had chennai based bootcamp but they relocated themself because ping diff from mumbai based orgs.
JiangLi [#60]Exactly so they can but they don't want to because they alr spent much on mumbai . I understand that but pushing the narrative of Indians can't get low ping to SG seems bs now
From what i can tell from just a Google search is i can survive in Bangalore with English just fine
so you want them to change cities for every tournament??? you can survive but what about orgs who are already in bad financial conditions they can't afford to travel with PCs week in and week out
SnooTangerines [#56]Look man, no disrespect but here I have actual evidence linking you streams and asking you to pause the 5 hour stream at any moment and look at the ping.
I have even explained Rossi's location and how it affects ping to SG servers.
While you or these other people who are complaining about ping have not brought any solid evidence to prove that Mumbai gets 55 ping to SG.
In fact you know what? I will bring science into it cause I have been studying tech for the past 3 years.
Distance to Mumbai to SG is 6700KM.
The speed of light in a Vacuum is 300,000KM/sec.
Therefore the speed of light in an optical fibre would be nearly 200,000KM/sec because refractive index of the material.Therefore light would take 33.5ms to travel from SG to Mumbai. That is already 67ms round trip time that is the mimimum theoretical possible value.
We can also calculate the one way distance.
Valorant works on 128 tick servers so that is around 8ms on the client side and 8 ms on the server side delay added. Total of 16ms.
Accounting for the fact that your game is updating at 200FPS, add another 5ms.
Adding all these numbers up, you are already up to 55ms. This is the theoretical maximum assuming your ISP and network switches are perfect and do not add any delay (which they do btw).
Anything less than 55ms is just theoretically impossible unless for some reason Indonesia and Thailand has different laws of physics and computer science than India.
Damn i'll pass my PSU exams with this knowledge thanks Vlr.gg fk byjus
SnooTangerines [#20]Packet loss and ping are different. If you get packet loss that means you Internet is shit according to how networking works.
Get a better Internet. Not that tough for pro teams. "mumbai server is shit" > Not TEC's problem or any Indian org's either. Ask Riot to make a better server.
SG server is equivalently shit for Indians. I get 10% packet loss and 90 ping where I am from while I can play with 30-40 ping with 0% packet loss on Mumbai servers.
"If you get packet loss that means you Internet is shit"
" I get 10% packet loss and 90 ping where I am from while I can play with 30-40 ping with 0% packet loss on Mumbai servers."
JiangLi [#60]Exactly so they can but they don't want to because they alr spent much on mumbai . I understand that but pushing the narrative of Indians can't get low ping to SG seems bs now
From what i can tell from just a Google search is i can survive in Bangalore with English just fine
As #60 said. It's not really viable to setup a gaming space in another city just for a few tourneys. The ROI just isn't there. And also for the fact that even they know that the skill gap bw SA and SEA isn't that close enough to the extent that it's only the ping that acts as a deciding factor of who's gonna win.
hythes9 [#85]"If you get packet loss that means you Internet is shit"
" I get 10% packet loss and 90 ping where I am from while I can play with 30-40 ping with 0% packet loss on Mumbai servers."
yo have you ever heard of a term called ''routing'' if your internet providers routing settings are shit u will get packet loss on certain servers i get 0% packet loss on SG and Mumbai but i get 5-10 on Hong kong is HK server shit?
hythes9 [#85]"If you get packet loss that means you Internet is shit"
" I get 10% packet loss and 90 ping where I am from while I can play with 30-40 ping with 0% packet loss on Mumbai servers."
When i play on my wifi i get almost 0 packet loss even in na servers
but when i switch to cellular network i get about 4-5% packet loss even in mumbai servers
It doesnt mean mumbai server shit, its your network provider which is shit!
hythes9 [#85]"If you get packet loss that means you Internet is shit"
" I get 10% packet loss and 90 ping where I am from while I can play with 30-40 ping with 0% packet loss on Mumbai servers."
I never claimed my net was good. I play on my college wifi which has very high download/upload speeds but is horrible in terms of latency and routing.
It also has a lot of proxies and firewalls added on top of it and monitors and packets sent to servers outside India.
JiangLi [#65]A Google search tell me you can live with just English there . Indian pros know Hindi as well so it's even more possible
It's not easy to leave your home i get it but don't push false narrative pls
Ground reality is actually different from a Google search , the majority speaks kannada and it is what it is you can't live in another country and teach me bout mine
LiebertyVAL [#4]W post. But Indians had same issue when they played on SG servers. I think we need to come to a common point and that is to ask Riot for a mutual server for the region. With GE getting franchise and so many upcoming tourneys, Riot should definitely think of this
All franchised teams have to move to Seoul to play any official games so it really does not matter.
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