I would also say cNed too, to see that just take a look at both teams that they play for .. Ascend is just 2-3 month old team, however Sentinels is totaly complete team that playing together since beginning of the valorant competitive arena. Tbh Ascend managed to do that Liquid can not as a team. As a fan of cNed, i'd never expect Ascend to manage such a success like this, i mean lets be honest who expected really ? I know TenZ how makes everything looks so easy, I know we can talk about how talented TenZ is, like all day long. What i'm trying to say is, if there is a thing that we're able to compare these two, the field or the possibilities that they have. So in my perspective, cNed makes something impossible to possible with his teammates. I hope you get my point and sorry for my gramatical mistakes if there is any.
hekzy [#3]cNed is tactically more adept than TenZ.
Tenz for all his mechanical skill, is really immature and that is the reason he could never dominate.
TenZ immature? lol what? did you like meet him IRL before anyone else and you were born in the same city with him? lol
Idk how everyone can say cNed.. I mean yes he is a crazy jett player but I think it is way too early to say that he is the best player in the world while his team is a very new team and yes they did won masters but still.. In the LAN it will be a whole different thing competing with much better teams and unless they were born as a GOD or have cheats I doubt that such a new team would be able to win the LAN against teams with much more experience, skill and organized play.
Even If cNed makes a huge carry and It is obvious that he will carry his team but to win the LAN? Idk.
Rogue_Angel [#7]SEN sick or Heretics nukkye they have it all they have won a lot of tournaments and placed well (consistently at the top ) along with good stats to support. They have done so much more compared to cNed and TenZ.
EDIT: VS Rb for that matter too.
Heretics aren't that crazy literally almost only Nukkye and niesoW are good there.
Also, the fact that Acend which is a very new team managed to win against Heretics and other kinda means a lot not just about Acend but on the other teams as well.
If I were one of the org officials I would probably make some roster changes.
PCGamer [#6]TenZ immature? lol what? did you like meet him IRL before anyone else and you were born in the same city with him? lol
Idk how everyone can say cNed.. I mean yes he is a crazy jett player but I think it is way too early to say that he is the best player in the world while his team is a very new team and yes they did won masters but still.. In the LAN it will be a whole different thing competing with much better teams and unless they were born as a GOD or have cheats I doubt that such a new team would be able to win the LAN against teams with much more experience, skill and organized play.
Even If cNed makes a huge carry and It is obvious that he will carry his team but to win the LAN? Idk.
Immature PLAYSTYLE you imbecile. He is overaggressive, hunting for frags constantly, needs too much freedom and leaves none for his teammates. Have you ever watched c9 blue matches? Did you even see his career in csgo (which was a trainwreck).
I also never said Acend is the best team in the world/europe. I literally just said cNed > tenz and you started making a billion false assumptions.
PCGamer [#8]Heretics aren't that crazy literally almost only Nukkye and niesoW are good there.
Also, the fact that Acend which is a very new team managed to win against Heretics and other kinda means a lot not just about Acend but on the other teams as well.
If I were one of the org officials I would probably make some roster changes.
you do realize that heretics have lost only 3 matches and two of them were bo1's and the other is the Masters final. They have beaten almost all the EU top-tier teams at least once and have only lost to NIP(BO1).
pampire [#11]i dont understand why nobody is saying scream
i mentioned him too he is in the top5 players for sure but his team is really bad..if he switch to a good team, he can be the best one
hekzy [#9]Immature PLAYSTYLE you imbecile. He is overaggressive, hunting for frags constantly, needs too much freedom and leaves none for his teammates. Have you ever watched c9 blue matches? Did you even see his career in csgo (which was a trainwreck).
I also never said Acend is the best team in the world/europe. I literally just said cNed > tenz and you started making a billion false assumptions.
MAYBE BECAUSE HE IS A DUELIST? LOL
Have you ever watched cNed?
He is literally doing the exact same thing and their stats are almost identical.
hekzy [#9]Immature PLAYSTYLE you imbecile. He is overaggressive, hunting for frags constantly, needs too much freedom and leaves none for his teammates. Have you ever watched c9 blue matches? Did you even see his career in csgo (which was a trainwreck).
I also never said Acend is the best team in the world/europe. I literally just said cNed > tenz and you started making a billion false assumptions.
The fact is his C9 blue team was not being able to cope up with him they were not good enough (no offense) and now that Tenz is in Sentinels, he is doing so well, if he is winning being aggressive whats wrong with that? he isnt dying every round without killing anyone right and we are noone to call someone "immature" based on their playstyle.
SwarnFox [#14]The fact is his C9 blue team was not being able to cope up with him they were not good enough (no offense) and now that Tenz is in Sentinels, he is doing so well, if he is winning being aggressive whats wrong with that? he isnt dying every round without killing anyone right and we are noone to call someone "immature" based on their playstyle.
I didn't call him an immature person. I call his playstyle immature. As in: his gameplay hasn't matured. Jesus, learn to read.
Rogue_Angel [#10]you do realize that heretics have lost only 3 matches and two of them were bo1's and the other is the Masters final. They have beaten almost all the EU top-tier teams at least once and have only lost to NIP(BO1).
You do realize that Acend also has a really good win rate of 86% and they only lost 4 matches?
And they are very new yet they won against heretics?
Also, what is wrong about what I've said regarding nukkye and niesoW? without them heretics would be nothing compared to top teams.
PCGamer [#13]MAYBE BECAUSE HE IS A DUELIST? LOL
Have you ever watched cNed?
He is literally doing the exact same thing and their stats are almost identical.
Not even remotely close. And I've followed cned since nolpenki.
redddiiiiii [#16]mwzera, is both consitent and insane, he is dropping 290 acs+ in every match, his movimentation is so good and hes smart af, i would say he is the best in the world
Obviously, his stats are crazy because he is the best in his region playing for the best team in his region lol..
But his rounds are very very low compared to cNed or TenZ and others and BR is only third best region right now after NA and EU.
So the best player in the world right now must be either in EU or NA because they are the best regions right now.
hekzy [#17]I didn't call him an immature person. I call his playstyle immature. As in: his gameplay hasn't matured. Jesus, learn to read.
But that is something that you have invented lmfao..
There is nothing such as "Gameplay that hasn't matured"
PCGamer [#20]Obviously, his stats are crazy because he is the best in his region playing for the best team in his region lol..
But his rounds are very very low compared to cNed or TenZ and others and BR is only third best region right now after NA and EU.
So the best player in the world right now must be either in EU or NA because they are the best regions right now.
Third best region in your opnion.
hekzy [#3]cNed is tactically more adept than TenZ.
Tenz for all his mechanical skill, is really immature and that is the reason he could never dominate.
Never saw cNed play any agent other than Jett. TenZ is more flexible with agents(he was match MVP and he was not even playing Jett). cNed may be the best Jett player, but when it comes to winning major i'd pick TenZ over cNed any time .
Shail [#25]Never saw cNed play any agent other than Jett. TenZ is more flexible with agents(he was match MVP and he was not even playing Jett). cNed may be the best Jett player, but when it comes to winning major i'd pick TenZ over cNed any time .
I completely agree.
Andreyoliveira77 [#24]Third best region in your opnion.
BR is only third best region as I've said "And BR is only third best region right now after NA and EU"
And the four best region is KR.
PCGamer [#27]BR is only third best region as I've said "And BR is only third best region right now after NA and EU"
And the four best region is KR.
Again: in your opnion
PCGamer [#27]BR is only third best region as I've said "And BR is only third best region right now after NA and EU"
And the four best region is KR.
"his rounds are very low" lol
So what about TenZ? Doesn't he play for the best team in his region?
PCGamer [#23]But that is something that you have invented lmfao..
There is nothing such as "Gameplay that hasn't matured"
Maybe if you're not familiar with csgo. It's a common saying in tactical shooters.
hekzy [#3]cNed is tactically more adept than TenZ.
Tenz for all his mechanical skill, is really immature and that is the reason he could never dominate.
Hard decision
hekzy [#3]cNed is tactically more adept than TenZ.
Tenz for all his mechanical skill, is really immature and that is the reason he could never dominate.
stfu u European idiots EU is not better than NA they play passive because the dont have the aim to go agro cNed is worse than most NA silvers
hekzy [#9]Immature PLAYSTYLE you imbecile. He is overaggressive, hunting for frags constantly, needs too much freedom and leaves none for his teammates. Have you ever watched c9 blue matches? Did you even see his career in csgo (which was a trainwreck).
I also never said Acend is the best team in the world/europe. I literally just said cNed > tenz and you started making a billion false assumptions.
Jett main. he is a Jett main
Swiftmal12 [#34]How are your takes always so bad
TenZ is undoubtedly one of the best players in the world right now, ScreaM has insane aim and Asuna is a great Raze main, he wins so many comp games, what are you saying bro?
bigpeensheen [#36]TenZ is undoubtedly one of the best players in the world right now, ScreaM has insane aim and Asuna is a great Raze main, he wins so many comp games, what are you saying bro?
You just can't not include cNed and mwzera but include asuna
greedeetv [#38]You just can't not include cNed and mwzera but include asuna
agree, but i would say “exclude” instead of “not include” ? (because “not include” is really confusing imo)
PCGamer [#18]You do realize that Acend also has a really good win rate of 86% and they only lost 4 matches?
And they are very new yet they won against heretics?
Also, what is wrong about what I've said regarding nukkye and niesoW? without them heretics would be nothing compared to top teams.
?? that just shows how good Acend is and not how bad Heretics is ? Acend stomped FPX and NIP . Heretics put a better fight against Acend than FPX and NIP ..... PLUS EU teams did not have many vods to watch for Acend.
beb0p [#39]agree, but i would say “exclude” instead of “not include” ? (because “not include” is really confusing imo)
thanks nobody cares
heisback [#29]"his rounds are very low" lol
So what about TenZ? Doesn't he play for the best team in his region?
Only now? lol
His last team was C9 which was not even close to being the best team in NA and only now he is playing for SEN and even that is only on loan for now.
I don't think that you understand that mwzera has only 1538 which is basically nothing, compared to TenZ which has 3064 which is a huge number and cNed has 2929 rounds and for example mixwell has 3213 rounds and Sick that plays in SEN has 4098.
All these numbers are the rounds played ONLY in the competitive scene of course, and keep in mind that those are ROUNDS not tournaments played.
greedeetv [#38]You just can't not include cNed and mwzera but include asuna
i was talking about #22 list, not my own
PCGamer [#43]Only now? lol
His last team was C9 which was not even close to being the best team in NA and only now he is playing for SEN and even that is only on loan for now.
I don't think that you understand that mwzera has only 1538 which is basically nothing, compared to TenZ which has 3064 which is a huge number and cNed has 2929 rounds and for example mixwell has 3213 rounds and Sick that plays in SEN has 4098.
All these numbers are the rounds played ONLY in the competitive scene of course, and keep in mind that those are ROUNDS not tournaments played.
mwzera has 2014 and tenz 2695 but okay, and mw has rounds since the first tourneys back in beta before vlr.gg, i know tenz has a bit more but its just to show how consistent he is
hekzy [#17]I didn't call him an immature person. I call his playstyle immature. As in: his gameplay hasn't matured. Jesus, learn to read.
immature playstyle? kekw nice invention dude
Wrong because the stats in VLR are the most outdated stats that you can get since they don't even have RIOT API.
When I look on stats and everything related I check the other site (Thespike)
And even after the recent rounds that tenz played for example I saw that it got updated in real time to 3064 and he had like 2900 or 2860 when he took his break from the scene.
redddiiiiii [#51]mwzera has 2014 and tenz 2695 but okay, and mw has rounds since the first tourneys back in beta before vlr.gg, i know tenz has a bit more but its just to show how consistent he is
Wrong because the stats in VLR are the most outdated stats that you can get since they don't even have RIOT API.
When I look on stats and everything related I check the other site (Thespike)
And even after the recent rounds that tenz played for example I saw that it got updated in real time to 3064 and he had like 2900 or 2860 when he took his break from the scene.
PCGamer [#20]Obviously, his stats are crazy because he is the best in his region playing for the best team in his region lol..
But his rounds are very very low compared to cNed or TenZ and others and BR is only third best region right now after NA and EU.
So the best player in the world right now must be either in EU or NA because they are the best regions right now.
I dont think so, mwzera awareness and decision making are better than tenz, tenz can have more cracked aim, but in general mwzera is better in my view, cNed also very good but differente playstyle. EU can be the best region, but i dont see NA being 100% better than BR, we will see on LAN :)
PCGamer [#6]TenZ immature? lol what? did you like meet him IRL before anyone else and you were born in the same city with him? lol
Idk how everyone can say cNed.. I mean yes he is a crazy jett player but I think it is way too early to say that he is the best player in the world while his team is a very new team and yes they did won masters but still.. In the LAN it will be a whole different thing competing with much better teams and unless they were born as a GOD or have cheats I doubt that such a new team would be able to win the LAN against teams with much more experience, skill and organized play.
Even If cNed makes a huge carry and It is obvious that he will carry his team but to win the LAN? Idk.
are you watching him vs BBG now? or are you crying in a corner? exactly the flaws i pinpointed are being BLATANTLY exposed in this game
SwarnFox [#14]The fact is his C9 blue team was not being able to cope up with him they were not good enough (no offense) and now that Tenz is in Sentinels, he is doing so well, if he is winning being aggressive whats wrong with that? he isnt dying every round without killing anyone right and we are noone to call someone "immature" based on their playstyle.
are you feeling like a clown right now? watch him VS BBG if you wanna learn what Immature playstyle is. Literally died pushing unecessarily like an idiot 7 times. 7 rounds lost because of him.
hekzy [#57]are you watching him vs BBG now? or are you crying in a corner? exactly the flaws i pinpointed are being BLATANTLY exposed in this game
the entire team played bad that game not just tenz and yeah he threw multiple rounds but you cant take away everything that he has done and how good he actually is
hekzy [#58]are you feeling like a clown right now? watch him VS BBG if you wanna learn what Immature playstyle is. Literally died pushing unecessarily like an idiot 7 times. 7 rounds lost because of him.
Also game 1 first 15 rounds against soniqs. cNed and ScreaM don’t do that sort of thing.
plas [#59]the entire team played bad that game not just tenz and yeah he threw multiple rounds but you cant take away everything that he has done and how good he actually is
I'm not saying he is trash. I'm saying he is NOT top1 (could be top5, top10, still good). Why are people hating this opinion?
hekzy [#61]I'm not saying he is trash. I'm saying he is NOT top1 (could be top5, top10, still good). Why are people hating this opinion?
I’m pretty sure people agree with you it’s just that some people don’t WANT to agree with you. SEN fans or tenz fanboys. Or people who haven’t heard of other regions.
greedeetv [#62]I’m pretty sure people agree with you it’s just that some people don’t WANT to agree with you. SEN fans or tenz fanboys. Or people who haven’t heard of other regions.
the problem stems from people not actually watching games but literally just looking at kd after the match. It's also the reason why a lot of non-duelist players who are actually great, end up getting hate.
Best player is ScreaM, but currently you can say cNed since he just won a big tournament. Imo they are the best in the world.
By region notably the best are:
Brazil - mwzera
Korea - Rb and stax
NA - hard to say, many good players but kinda inconsistent at times. I think default would be Asuna / TenZ / SicK but not convinced.
hekzy [#63]the problem stems from people not actually watching games but literally just looking at kd after the match. It's also the reason why a lot of non-duelist players who are actually great, end up getting hate.
Like crashies
hekzy [#57]are you watching him vs BBG now? or are you crying in a corner? exactly the flaws i pinpointed are being BLATANTLY exposed in this game
You cant judge someone based on one match you know. You wont look at the matches where Tenz carry a whole team but u would look at the match when Tenz was not doing so well. And I dont mind being a clown if u think I am cuz may be even being a clown I can make someone's day unlike you :)). GoodLuck!
PCGamer [#8]Heretics aren't that crazy literally almost only Nukkye and niesoW are good there.
Also, the fact that Acend which is a very new team managed to win against Heretics and other kinda means a lot not just about Acend but on the other teams as well.
If I were one of the org officials I would probably make some roster changes.
heretics is overrated and they are god´s favorites
PCGamer [#13]MAYBE BECAUSE HE IS A DUELIST? LOL
Have you ever watched cNed?
He is literally doing the exact same thing and their stats are almost identical.
you ccan be aggro and have a mature playstile and a good gamesense. not saying cned is better because i think tenz is equally good, but damn, if you don't undestand those concepts i don't think you should get in these conversations
SwarnFox [#67]You cant judge someone based on one match you know. You wont look at the matches where Tenz carry a whole team but u would look at the match when Tenz was not doing so well. And I dont mind being a clown if u think I am cuz may be even being a clown I can make someone's day unlike you :)). GoodLuck!
How about two games? What did i say? Clowns! Now i also took moneys from mad fanboy bettors. Ez skins ez life.
plas [#59]the entire team played bad that game not just tenz and yeah he threw multiple rounds but you cant take away everything that he has done and how good he actually is
Yeah how about now? Clown.
plas [#59]the entire team played bad that game not just tenz and yeah he threw multiple rounds but you cant take away everything that he has done and how good he actually is
Hurrdurr how about now? Fanboys lmao. Are you gonna cry in your corner and downvote my comment in silence? Doesn't matter to me, i practically steal money on betting sites from clueless fanboys like you
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