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Spots for Champions....

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#1
Pro_Ralph

Why does South America (BR + LATAM) have 4 spots (1BR + 1LATAM +2 LCQ SA) in champions while EMEA only have 3 (2 + LCQ)?
EMEA region - EMEA
SA region - LATAM + BR

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Dertyser
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They want more viewers from brazil and latam

#3
PrTsty
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because riot is retarded, they want to give NA 2nd and 3rd seed free wins

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yoru_instalock
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its the same slot allocation as last year except the masters 3 slot was given to asia ?

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Enzolp
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Latam includes LAN, its not entirely SA.
They are two different regions, this is like saying why ASIA has 4 spots lmao

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kbkdark
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Let's be honest, EMEA is just Europe... Africa and Middle East t1 teams can't even beat t3 European teams
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LATAM is LAN and LAS

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Olofboost
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kbkdark [#6]

Let's be honest, EMEA is just Europe... Africa and Middle East t1 teams can't even beat t3 European teams
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LATAM is LAN and LAS

So what? Europe playerbase and results across Valorant internationals are bigger than those of Brazil + Latam combined

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Olofboost
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Because Riot hates EMEA, it's simple

Other regions receive tons of opportunities at the cost of our ignored merit

#9
Hirai7
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Who cares? Next year will be different

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Olofboost
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yoru_instalock [#4]

its the same slot allocation as last year except the masters 3 slot was given to asia ?

Yes, but it doesn't mean last year's allocation was tolerable

#11
trola
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trying to get more south america clout

#12
otwalcott
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Not saying it's good logic, but in Masters I EMEA made Lower R2 whereas SA made Finals so I could see them deciding solely on that lol

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nutab1e
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Olofboost [#7]

So what? Europe playerbase and results across Valorant internationals are bigger than those of Brazil + Latam combined

wait whats the source of the playerbase numbers?

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Muted_Jett
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i dont get it.
The number of players per region cannot be a reason either:
https://www.reddit.com/r/VALORANT/comments/pe445a/stats_approximate_number_of_ranked_players_in/

this post ist 11 months ago but the numbers are similar today.

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kbkdark
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Olofboost [#7]

So what? Europe playerbase and results across Valorant internationals are bigger than those of Brazil + Latam combined

The @Pro_Ralph point was about regions' sizes, but I'm not saying that EMEA deserves less slots cause of this

Champions needed to be 24 teams:

EMEA - 5
NA - 4
APAC - 4
KR - 1
JP - 1
LATAM - 2
BR - 2

LCQ LATAM+BR - 1
LCQ EMEA - 1
LCQ APAC - 1
LCQ NA - 1
LCQ JP+KR - 1

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Olofboost
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nutab1e [#13]

wait whats the source of the playerbase numbers?

There was a statistic long ago comparing number of immortals in EU/TR servers and BR/LATAM servers

Number of immortals directly represents the competitive playerbase which can participate in VCT qualifiers

EU/TR had 3 times more than BR/LATAM

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kbkdark [#15]

The @Pro_Ralph point was about regions' sizes, but I'm not saying that EMEA deserves less slots cause of this

Champions needed to be 24 teams:

EMEA - 5
NA - 4
APAC - 4
KR - 1
JP - 1
LATAM - 2
BR - 2

LCQ LATAM+BR - 1
LCQ EMEA - 1
LCQ APAC - 1
LCQ NA - 1
LCQ JP+KR - 1

it could be that simple...

#18
shahzam2004
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coz emea is bad

#19
nutab1e
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Olofboost [#16]

There was a statistic long ago comparing number of immortals in EU/TR servers and BR/LATAM servers

Number of immortals directly represents the competitive playerbase which can participate in VCT qualifiers

EU/TR had 3 times more than BR/LATAM

yeah someone linked it at the bottom

#20
kbkdark
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shahzam2004 [#18]

coz emea is bad

that's a really good point 😂

#21
Olofboost
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otwalcott [#12]

Not saying it's good logic, but in Masters I EMEA made Lower R2 whereas SA made Finals so I could see them deciding solely on that lol

Slots were decided before 2022, they couldn't know Loud would reach GF

And where is South America now btw? Not a single team in top-4, Brazil dead last

#22
Pro_Ralph
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kbkdark [#15]

The @Pro_Ralph point was about regions' sizes, but I'm not saying that EMEA deserves less slots cause of this

Champions needed to be 24 teams:

EMEA - 5
NA - 4
APAC - 4
KR - 1
JP - 1
LATAM - 2
BR - 2

LCQ LATAM+BR - 1
LCQ EMEA - 1
LCQ APAC - 1
LCQ NA - 1
LCQ JP+KR - 1

Yes, it would be better, plus if there are 2 slots from BR+LATAM LCQ is there a point of having a final, since the objective is just qualify?

#23
cyk
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4 slots for Eu should be better

#24
Pro_Ralph
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cyk [#23]

4 slots for Eu should be better

Yes, maybe first 3 for points +1 LCQ (ir 2 for points and 2 for LCQ)

#25
nutab1e
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I feel like they should've given turkey a dedicated slot this year especially since champions is in Istanbul. It's a shame how they let they viewership there die

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kzeriar
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Pro_Ralph [#22]

Yes, it would be better, plus if there are 2 slots from BR+LATAM LCQ is there a point of having a final, since the objective is just qualify?

maybe they'll figure something out with seeding but I don't think it will be that relevant since with 16 teams in champions everyone will start in groups
it's kind of anticlimatic, I bought my tickets to the LCQ finals but it's weird cause there's no stakes in this match

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Pro_Ralph [#22]

Yes, it would be better, plus if there are 2 slots from BR+LATAM LCQ is there a point of having a final, since the objective is just qualify?

the 2 best teams based in points in each region pass directly to champions... the 3rd and 4th of each region battles against each other to get the last slot

If it happens according to this VCT points:

LOUD and NIP goes directly to champions
LEV and KRU goes directly to champions

SF A - VK (BR 3rd) x FUSION (LATAM 4th)
SF B - Lazer (LATAM 3rd) x FURIA (BR 4th)
GF - Winner SF A x Winner SF B - Who wins it goes to Champions

#28
trola
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nutab1e [#25]

I feel like they should've given turkey a dedicated slot this year especially since champions is in Istanbul. It's a shame how they let they viewership there die

spot is decided before country announcement iirc

#29
OzyMeister
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kbkdark [#15]

The @Pro_Ralph point was about regions' sizes, but I'm not saying that EMEA deserves less slots cause of this

Champions needed to be 24 teams:

EMEA - 5
NA - 4
APAC - 4
KR - 1
JP - 1
LATAM - 2
BR - 2

LCQ LATAM+BR - 1
LCQ EMEA - 1
LCQ APAC - 1
LCQ NA - 1
LCQ JP+KR - 1

APAC has 2x more playerbase compared to NA and

#30
symbols07
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Dertyser [#2]

They want more viewers from brazil and latam

Yea probably,

#31
symbols07
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kbkdark [#15]

The @Pro_Ralph point was about regions' sizes, but I'm not saying that EMEA deserves less slots cause of this

Champions needed to be 24 teams:

EMEA - 5
NA - 4
APAC - 4
KR - 1
JP - 1
LATAM - 2
BR - 2

LCQ LATAM+BR - 1
LCQ EMEA - 1
LCQ APAC - 1
LCQ NA - 1
LCQ JP+KR - 1

No way you give apac 4 slots and japan one, even if we consider slots were decided pre 2022, japan viewership is a serious enough reason to allot them 2 slots. Also apac doesn't deserve 4 slots , prx is the only good team, the rest teams are a tier behind, who can't reach top 8 of a tournament unlike latam or japan

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Pro_Ralph
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kbkdark [#27]

the 2 best teams based in points in each region pass directly to champions... the 3rd and 4th of each region battles against each other to get the last slot

If it happens according to this VCT points:

LOUD and NIP goes directly to champions
LEV and KRU goes directly to champions

SF A - VK (BR 3rd) x FUSION (LATAM 4th)
SF B - Lazer (LATAM 3rd) x FURIA (BR 4th)
GF - Winner SF A x Winner SF B - Who wins it goes to Champions

absolutamente nada a ver
https://www.vlr.gg/event/1111/champions-tour-south-america-last-chance-qualifier
https://www.vlr.gg/vct/standings - for BR and LATAM it's just 1st place
check each LCQ first, it's not just 3th and 4th

#33
Gyro
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SA has a bigger fanbase than EU

#34
kbkdark
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Pro_Ralph [#32]

absolutamente nada a ver
https://www.vlr.gg/event/1111/champions-tour-south-america-last-chance-qualifier
https://www.vlr.gg/vct/standings - for BR and LATAM it's just 1st place
check each LCQ first, it's not just 3th and 4th

mano... cê ta confundindo tudo, o que eu mandei ali em cima é o que seria o ideal de acordo com o que eu falei dos slots pra um champions com 24 times

e não o que vai ser agr

#35
kbkdark
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symbols07 [#31]

No way you give apac 4 slots and japan one, even if we consider slots were decided pre 2022, japan viewership is a serious enough reason to allot them 2 slots. Also apac doesn't deserve 4 slots , prx is the only good team, the rest teams are a tier behind, who can't reach top 8 of a tournament unlike latam or japan

I'm making a full group stage 24-teams champions format with a different distribution of slots... I'll share here soon

so don't worry 😄

#36
Pro_Ralph
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kbkdark [#34]

mano... cê ta confundindo tudo, o que eu mandei ali em cima é o que seria o ideal de acordo com o que eu falei dos slots pra um champions com 24 times

e não o que vai ser agr

LOL sry
"the 2 best teams based in points in each region pass directly to champions... the 3rd and 4th of each region battles against each other to get the last slot

If it happens according to this VCT points:

LOUD and NIP goes directly to champions
LEV and KRU goes directly to champions

SF A - VK (BR 3rd) x FUSION (LATAM 4th)
SF B - Lazer (LATAM 3rd) x FURIA (BR 4th)
GF - Winner SF A x Winner SF B - Who wins it goes to Champions"

a mandar desta forma parece que tás a constatar factos

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kbkdark
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Pro_Ralph [#36]

LOL sry
"the 2 best teams based in points in each region pass directly to champions... the 3rd and 4th of each region battles against each other to get the last slot

If it happens according to this VCT points:

LOUD and NIP goes directly to champions
LEV and KRU goes directly to champions

SF A - VK (BR 3rd) x FUSION (LATAM 4th)
SF B - Lazer (LATAM 3rd) x FURIA (BR 4th)
GF - Winner SF A x Winner SF B - Who wins it goes to Champions"

a mandar desta forma parece que tás a constatar factos

me desculpa tbm, achei que eu tinha me respondido kkkkkkkk

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