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boaster > derke, marved > yay

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#1
nutab1e

why are they not the main awps for their team?

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no, yay best player in the world and NOT EVEN CLOSE

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No

#4
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unexpected strat

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Gutssz [#2]

no, yay best player in the world and NOT EVEN CLOSE

nah marved better
at least with the impact

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Gutssz [#2]

no, yay best player in the world and NOT EVEN CLOSE

EU fans are downvoting even though they know I'm right, look at Derke, he's not even close to yay in this match

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Gutssz [#6]

EU fans are downvoting even though they know I'm right, look at Derke, he's not even close to yay in this match

Did you even read the title? OP compared Marved to Yay not derke

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6vine [#7]

Did you even read the title? OP compared Marved to Yay not derke

op compored?
Currently there is no op player at yay level

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whycare [#5]

nah marved better
at least with the impact

do you know that without yay's first kills Optic would not be able to win and have marved in the position for his huge lurks? That's why yay is the best player because he sets the pace for his team.

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Gutssz [#8]

op compored?
Currently there is no op player at yay level

You are so stupid bruh, nah that was actually funny

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ogking [#9]

do you know that without yay's first kills Optic would not be able to win and have marved in the position for his huge lurks? That's why yay is the best player because he sets the pace for his team.

yay doesn't set any pace for the team, u worded that wrong

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nutab1e
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ogking [#9]

do you know that without yay's first kills Optic would not be able to win and have marved in the position for his huge lurks? That's why yay is the best player because he sets the pace for his team.

yeah but if you had 2 marveds marved could set the second marved in the position for his huge lurks better than yay could

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Gutssz [#8]

op compored?
Currently there is no op player at yay level

OP means original poster

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Gutssz [#2]

no, yay best player in the world and NOT EVEN CLOSE

woah, let's calm down buddy

#15
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controllers popping off recent tournements

#16
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nutab1e [#12]

yeah but if you had 2 marveds marved could set the second marved in the position for his huge lurks better than yay could

1st of all marved is not the type of player to go in and die like would and get the first kill. there would be 2 lurkers if there's 2 Marveds

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ogking [#16]

1st of all marved is not the type of player to go in and die like would and get the first kill. there would be 2 lurkers if there's 2 Marveds

you act like he doesn't have a brain. He can consciously change his playstyle

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Who tf said Marved >Yay, and Marved is 100X the player as boaster is

#19
ogking
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NG1nS [#11]

yay doesn't set any pace for the team, u worded that wrong

and I can tell you don't know the word "pace" means let alone what it takes for a player to set it up

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nutab1e
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EU_quiet [#18]

Who tf said Marved >Yay, and Marved is 100X the player as boaster is

marved is a better awper

#21
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nutab1e [#17]

you act like he doesn't have a brain. He can consciously change his playstyle

just like any good player can change their playstyle... so your point makes no sense. any good ass player can change their playstyles and doesn't mean they'd be the greatest at it.

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ogking [#21]

just like any good player can change their playstyle... so your point makes no sense. any good ass player can change their playstyles and doesn't mean they'd be the greatest at it.

true but I think marved would be the greatest at it!

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nutab1e [#20]

marved is a better awper

in what statistics says he is? you're comparing a capable OPer vs someone who's the best at it.

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ogking [#19]

and I can tell you don't know the word "pace" means let alone what it takes for a player to set it up

i would like to have an unbiased opinion on this
is yay the pace setter for optic?

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nutab1e [#22]

true but I think marved would be the greatest at it!

he'd be a the 'greatest' lurk. but no precedent data would even say he's remotely close of first kill player that sets the pace for his team like yay does. Even during his Faze phase, he was always the lurker if not the guy who trades kills

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ogking [#23]

in what statistics says he is? you're comparing a capable OPer vs someone who's the best at it.

why is yay the best at it? He could never hit this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5Vsqd0Ur3I&t=488s timestamp 59:15

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ogking [#25]

he'd be a the 'greatest' lurk. but no precedent data would even say he's remotely close of first kill player that sets the pace for his team like yay does. Even during his Faze phase, he was always the lurker if not the guy who trades kills

Bro I swear to god you're the biggest yay dickrider I've ever seen, the past 100 threads you've done are defending yay, he's a very good player but he's not god so stfu

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NG1nS [#24]

i would like to have an unbiased opinion on this
is yay the pace setter for optic?

Yes he is... against DRX is the proof of yay setting the team's pace. because his first kills especially on breeze and Bind was so crucial for them to enter the site OR on defense to have a 5v4 conversation.

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TheLegend27 [#27]

Bro I swear to god you're the biggest yay dickrider I've ever seen, the past 100 threads you've done are defending yay, he's a very good player but he's not god so stfu

how can I be a dickrider when it's factual? I would have to exaggerate for me to be a dickrider

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ogking [#28]

Yes he is... against DRX is the proof of yay setting the team's pace. because his first kills especially on breeze and Bind was so crucial for them to enter the site OR on defense to have a 5v4 conversation.

i said unbiased dude, we won't get much from us arguing
also i knew for some reason ur gonna mention the DRX match, it was one of the only matches that he had great impact in opening the rounds

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NG1nS [#30]

i said unbiased dude, we won't get much from us arguing
also i knew for some reason ur gonna mention the DRX match, it was one of the only matches that he had great impact in opening the rounds

since you said unbiased, his first kill and first death ratio proves how he sets the pace for his team. if yay were to be unsuccessful on that then his impact would diminish

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ogking [#28]

Yes he is... against DRX is the proof of yay setting the team's pace. because his first kills especially on breeze and Bind was so crucial for them to enter the site OR on defense to have a 5v4 conversation.

2 first bloods on attack breeze 3 first bloods on attack bind he is not setting the pace

#33
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ogking [#29]

how can I be a dickrider when it's factual? I would have to exaggerate for me to be a dickrider

Bro you are tho....

#34
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NG1nS [#13]

OP means original poster

Don't you think it's normal for me to misunderstand the word "op" in Valorant?

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nutab1e [#26]

why is yay the best at it? He could never hit this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5Vsqd0Ur3I&t=488s timestamp 59:15

Poor argument... yay killing buzz on long B which buzz is favored to win literally shows his incredible mechanics and his reaction time. Marved never done that, any good OPer can hit a raze satcheling out.

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Cresp [#10]

You are so stupid bruh, nah that was actually funny

you're a fnatic fan with no brain please don't talk

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nutab1e [#32]

2 first bloods on attack breeze 3 first bloods on attack bind he is not setting the pace

yeah and? yay's ability to hold the post plant was the reason they won a lot of rounds and supporting the planter. it's not even just 1 map and it's been all maps vs DRX

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ogking [#35]

Poor argument... yay killing buzz on long B which buzz is favored to win literally shows his incredible mechanics and his reaction time. Marved never done that, any good OPer can hit a raze satcheling out.

give me a clip bruh if it's the kill I'm thinking about buzz was not favored on that angle, + marved could do that with his eyes closed

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ogking [#29]

how can I be a dickrider when it's factual? I would have to exaggerate for me to be a dickrider

I've literally seen you make up stats to make yay seem better than he is you absolute dickrider, then ignore when people call you out on it

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ogking [#37]

yeah and? yay's ability to hold the post plant was the reason they won a lot of rounds and supporting the planter. it's not even just 1 map and it's been all maps vs DRX

I thought you said he was setting the pace? Now he's holding the post-plant? I think you hit your head

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nutab1e [#38]

give me a clip bruh if it's the kill I'm thinking about buzz was not favored on that angle, + marved could do that with his eyes closed

how is buzz not favored? he sees yay before yay sees him in that angle.

"Marved could do that with his eyes close" this is where dickriding starts to evolve for you. Marved is a capable OPer but he is no where near close as good

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ogking [#41]

how is buzz not favored? he sees yay before yay sees him in that angle.

"Marved could do that with his eyes close" this is where dickriding starts to evolve for you. Marved is a capable OPer but he is no where near close as good

wheres the clip?

Marved is a capable OPer but he is no where near close as good

this is where the dickriding starts to evolve from you

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Gutssz [#34]

Don't you think it's normal for me to misunderstand the word "op" in Valorant?

it is, i replied with only information, not judging
i think ur talking about the post above me

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nutab1e [#40]

I thought you said he was setting the pace? Now he's holding the post-plant? I think you hit your head

he does sets the pace, even when he doesn't get first kills his ability to hold post plants is also the sets that he puts. On defense nobody would enter his site and would go to other site, this has happened multiple times.

#45
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Gutssz [#36]

you're a fnatic fan with no brain please don't talk

I actually thought that u were joking💀

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nutab1e
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ogking [#44]

he does sets the pace, even when he doesn't get first kills his ability to hold post plants is also the sets that he puts. On defense nobody would enter his site and would go to other site, this has happened multiple times.

pace = playing valorant got it

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nutab1e [#42]

wheres the clip?

Marved is a capable OPer but he is no where near close as good

this is where the dickriding starts to evolve from you

clip of what? buzz getting killed by yay at B long? it was literally the same game you posted above. it's there

If you can't have any statistical data to show marved being as good, then why bother? this is like saying KennyS is the best AWPER on CSGO history because he flicks faster inhumane level. Which does not mean anything when Dev1ce or s1mple has better stats on the weapon

#48
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nutab1e [#46]

pace = playing valorant got it

This is where I already told you that you don't know what pace means let alone a player setting it up

#49
Gutssz
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Cresp [#45]

I actually thought that u were joking💀

I just woke up and I think I'm a little nervous, sorry

#50
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IDk about who is better at awping, but i can tell u this. Players like Forsaken, Jingg, Yay, Derke, Tacolilla etc.. might be built different, but players like Marved, Mindfreak, Mako, Melser, Boaster etc. as controllers are more important to the team than the first list.

#51
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TheLegend27 [#39]

I've literally seen you make up stats to make yay seem better than he is you absolute dickrider, then ignore when people call you out on it

all the stats I've mentioned already exist. so if there's no counter argument, then why bother?

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ogking [#51]

all the stats I've mentioned already exist. so if there's no counter argument, then why bother?

If they exist then why not show them when people ask you to send it to them? Oh yeah thats right because you fucking made them up lmao

#53
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TheLegend27 [#52]

If they exist then why not show them when people ask you to send it to them? Oh yeah thats right because you fucking made them up lmao

Yayster has proven himself to be the best in the world in my opinion.

Yesterday's performance and +15 entry contribution is incredible

#54
nutab1e
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ogking [#47]

clip of what? buzz getting killed by yay at B long? it was literally the same game you posted above. it's there

If you can't have any statistical data to show marved being as good, then why bother? this is like saying KennyS is the best AWPER on CSGO history because he flicks faster inhumane level. Which does not mean anything when Dev1ce or s1mple has better stats on the weapon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5Vsqd0Ur3I&t=488s timestamp 59:40 look I found the clip for you. Yay clearly sees buzz' shoulder first this proves nothing about his awp skill

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nutab1e [#54]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5Vsqd0Ur3I&t=488s timestamp 59:40 look I found the clip for you. Yay clearly sees buzz' shoulder first this proves nothing about his awp skill

that's literally in yay's POV... so yes he would see buzz, in buzz's POV he sees yay first. you're acting like I said yay didn't see buzz. I said buzz sees yay first in that angle before yay does and he still lost

#56
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ogking [#48]

This is where I already told you that you don't know what pace means let alone a player setting it up

marved is setting the pace by smoking off angles and finding trades off victors entries. See how I add the word pace in? Also nobody would enter his site? you gotta be braindead drx were disrespecting him and pushing him off of angles with utility all the time.

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ogking [#55]

that's literally in yay's POV... so yes he would see buzz, in buzz's POV he sees yay first. you're acting like I said yay didn't see buzz. I said buzz sees yay first in that angle before yay does and he still lost

this is LAN + that's not how angles work

#58
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nutab1e [#56]

marved is setting the pace by smoking off angles and finding trades off victors entries. See how I add the word pace in? Also nobody would enter his site? you gotta be braindead drx were disrespecting him and pushing him off of angles with utility all the time.

Marved is 4th or the last one alive for the team most of the time, when victor plays duelist, marved doesn't come 2nd to trade, it's normally crashies or yay that does.

DRX were literally not entering his site what are you talking about? a lot of times DRX goes to a different site where yay doesn't play. So where does this come from?

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nutab1e [#57]

this is LAN + that's not how angles work

how does it work then since you seem to know how angles work. Maybe online it would be but LAN is a different story of who sees first. especially in that angle

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ogking [#58]

Marved is 4th or the last one alive for the team most of the time, when victor plays duelist, marved doesn't come 2nd to trade, it's normally crashies or yay that does.

DRX were literally not entering his site what are you talking about? a lot of times DRX goes to a different site where yay doesn't play. So where does this come from?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5Vsqd0Ur3I&t=488s timestamp 12:00

#61
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Gutssz [#53]

Yayster has proven himself to be the best in the world in my opinion.

Yesterday's performance and +15 entry contribution is incredible

I think yay is a worldclass player I don't think anyone can deny that, im just saying that ogking guy is a dickrider and i've seen him in every yay thread hardcore defending him like his life depends on it, then he makes up stats, gets called out on it and just decides to stop replying.

#62
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ogking [#59]

how does it work then since you seem to know how angles work. Maybe online it would be but LAN is a different story of who sees first. especially in that angle

this is his pov and then he still takes another step sideways and shoots. Obvious that he spotted Buzz' shoulder first and was able to make the adjustment. btw I think yay is better than buzz but marved would own him on that role too https://imgur.com/a/J8VaZzr

#63
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I can't believe a post like this gets taken so seriously

#64
ogking
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nutab1e [#62]

this is his pov and then he still takes another step sideways and shoots. Obvious that he spotted Buzz' shoulder first and was able to make the adjustment. btw I think yay is better than buzz but marved would own him on that role too https://imgur.com/a/J8VaZzr

again... you're showing yay's POV... that's not buzz's. buzz sees him first there, I already said this twice now and you're still unable to comprehend.

That being said buzz sees him first in that angle he holds, and yay beats him in that because of his mechanics and reaction time. Marved is good and capable OPer please stop comparing to a world class OPer unless a stat is proven.

#65
nutab1e
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ogking [#64]

again... you're showing yay's POV... that's not buzz's. buzz sees him first there, I already said this twice now and you're still unable to comprehend.

That being said buzz sees him first in that angle he holds, and yay beats him in that because of his mechanics and reaction time. Marved is good and capable OPer please stop comparing to a world class OPer unless a stat is proven.

they don't have buzz' pov... yay sees him first there, I already said this twice now and you're still unable to comprehend.

That being said yay sees him first in that angle he swings and buzz loses because he was holding a bad angle. Marved would easily win that same fight and outshine yay on the role. Please stop comparing yay to a world class OPer unless a stat is proven.

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xcey
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nutab1e [#54]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5Vsqd0Ur3I&t=488s timestamp 59:40 look I found the clip for you. Yay clearly sees buzz' shoulder first this proves nothing about his awp skill

the fact that yay puts himself in the position where he sees him first is the prove that he is better.

#67
nutab1e
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xcey [#66]

the fact that yay puts himself in the position where he sees him first is the prove that he is better.

yes I think he is better than buzz

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