SEA LAUGH THREAD

#60

JiangLi

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Yes they are and DRX is a big org as well everyone knows that. But theres a lack of talent there and most of the good players there including GC always try to get a JP org because better ecosystem. Also the reason T1 isnt at KR yet because they cant with 4K live viewers in finals. The views too low and no sponsors on new teams.

#63

jimjam789

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how is there a lack of talent? do you even watch the games? you think meteor is good, wait until you see texture. theres no way you look at dk and ons rosters and think 'oh thats little talent'. and views and sponsers isnt the matter at hand when discussing region strength is it

#65

JiangLi

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DK , ONS , Maru , and thats 15-25 active players . SG which is by far the region with lowest number of players excluding OCE has similar/more players than that. And thats only SG btw where RIOT has done nowhere near what they have for Korea in promoting the game over 2 years.

#67

jimjam789

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again with ur numbers, WHO CARS HOW MANY PLAYERS THERE ARE, HOW MUCH MONEY THEY BRING IN ETC ETC ETC we are discussing region strength not region popularity

#69

JiangLi

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Region strength also considers how competitive the region is and that includes metrics like the number of players there are . More viewership brings in more players hence increasing competitiveness and overall region strength.

#72

jimjam789

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drx would shit on apac as well so first of all lets not even bring up that drx is better than everyone in kr. if you wanna judge just how competitive korea is i suggest u search the tourney up in vlr. i want you to see just how many 11-13 maps there were between every team including teams like DK. even the worst team got to 11-13 vs DRX twice or something like that. and i really doint understnad how number of players indicate how strong a region is. if anything, having lower number of players means you are versing the best in the region hence making it more competitive. why do you think franchising is gonna happen? they are reducing the amount of teams so that each team will play highest competitive games

#76

JiangLi

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Same with MY/SG theres BLEED and Laze who also almost defeated PRX and Laze even did defeat them. Again its only MY/SG region in APAC which is by far the least in terms of number of talent. KR is nothing lil bro even after 2 years and having insane prize money.

#79

jimjam789

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ok so ur top 2 teams outside of prx can do decently well against them. krs worst can do well against them. its not the same

#80

JiangLi

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Lmao its only because KR has such a small number of teams ofc they will do good. No namers , Gaimin Gladiators , Todak , BCG can raw dog any KR team except DRX any day of the week .

#81

jimjam789

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joxjo went 57/40 /22 against the 2nd best apac team. before he joined nth, he was a no name and his team got shit on every team, one of those 'talentless' players u are referring to. udotan is a noname korean player who go imported to PH. he averages 280 acs on jett on talon (pretty big org), what did he average in korea? 220 acs.

#83

jimjam789

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ive said it before and ill say it again. whenever a korean gets imported, their statistics go WAY higher than when they played in korea. for example in japan, on average korean imports gain around 30 acs. korean 'noname' fill players literally shit on the regions they get imported to compared to when they played in kr. that can only mean one thing, competition in korea is harder than the other region.

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#73

jimjam789

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btw kr vct has 2 streams, eng and kr. eng stream averages around 10k for the finals i think is saw 15-20. the korean stream went up to 10k at one point (early into the stage) but usually averages around 4-5k. that combined is bigger than every sub region in apac viewership.

#74

JiangLi

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Lmao this english stream literally has no Koreans and your Official KR streams get 5K viewers at best which is same as MY/SG challengers lmao.

#78

fracra

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the english stream is on the main valorant channel, i'd reckon if APAC GF is on there, there would definitely be more. However twitch isn't really popular in most SEA countries.