🤡🤡🤡🤡 bro is not even the best player in his team tf https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/vnickq/xset_bcj_everybody_always_says_stax_is_the_best/
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delusional_paperrex_fan [#7]Leo , Enzo , Stax , Benkai , Shao , Sacy , crashies , foxz , JoXJo , Shyy and Mazino >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BcWho?
who the duck is joxjo
realistically, I think BcJ and Ayrin are the weakest players on XSET and will get replaced when franchising causes rosters to consolidate. players like SicK, maybe even Shahzam (would be a throwback to the Complexity CSGO roster that made quarterfinals at a major), could be options.
but dephh would have to keep IGLing for them to have success imo.
GLN321 [#3]Why do people get mad at such obvious shit talk that is made purposely to stir the pot.
because what has Stax done to him, he is just a nice guy never bragging
juno_VLR [#13]realistically, I think BcJ and Ayrin are the weakest players on XSET and will get replaced when franchising causes rosters to consolidate. players like SicK, maybe even Shahzam (would be a throwback to the Complexity CSGO roster that made quarterfinals at a major), could be options.
but dephh would have to keep IGLing for them to have success imo.
WTF we really have someone here who thinks Xset gets a franchise slot before Sentinels lol
RGS_OnToP [#15]WTF we really have someone here who thinks Xset gets a franchise slot before Sentinels lol
LMAO xset are a bigger and more profitiable org then Sentinels.
But neither are making francisings Lets be real
xD1LL4N [#16]LMAO xset are a bigger and more profitiable org then Sentinels.
But neither are making francisings Lets be real
lol Xset is a no name org but ok
you are delusional if you realy belive Sentinels wont make it to franchise
https://escharts.com/news/most-popular-vct-2022-stage-2-challengers-regions
for the record Sentinels hold 13/15 matches with over 200k+ viewer in Na
RGS_OnToP [#15]WTF we really have someone here who thinks Xset gets a franchise slot before Sentinels lol
nah, idc what orgs make it. and there’s no way to predict what riot will allow. nobody is keeping their rosters except optic. too much wasted talent if so. so a combo xset/sen roster and a combo c9/v1 roster could very well happen imo. idc what org they play under.
juno_VLR [#18]nah, idc what orgs make it. and there’s no way to predict what riot will allow. nobody is keeping their rosters except optic. too much wasted talent if so. so a combo xset/sen roster and a combo c9/v1 roster could very well happen imo. idc what org they play under.
you are delusional if you realy belive Sentinels wont make it to franchise
https://escharts.com/news/most-popular-vct-2022-stage-2-challengers-regions
for the record Sentinels hold 13/15 matches with over 200k+ viewer in Na
Mbappe [#14]because what has Stax done to him, he is just a nice guy never bragging
holy fuck you pussies are so embarrassing, stax literally called VS the best team after they won against Acend in group stage masters 3. stop getting offended for the players they dont know you
RGS_OnToP [#17]lol Xset is a no name org but ok
you are delusional if you realy belive Sentinels wont make it to franchise
https://escharts.com/news/most-popular-vct-2022-stage-2-challengers-regions
for the record Sentinels hold 13/15 matches with over 200k+ viewer in Na
Nice COPIUM but viewers wont buy a spot in Francising.
juno_VLR [#18]nah, idc what orgs make it. and there’s no way to predict what riot will allow. nobody is keeping their rosters except optic. too much wasted talent if so. so a combo xset/sen roster and a combo c9/v1 roster could very well happen imo. idc what org they play under.
https://blix.gg/news/details-on-the-valorant-partnership-program-in-2023
" there are many requirements to take into account, but it is expected to prioritize the entry of organizations with big names and huge fanbases, the money they have will not be a major factor in their election."
(keyword is huge fanbases)
xD1LL4N [#21]Nice COPIUM but viewers wont buy a spot in Francising.
https://blix.gg/news/details-on-the-valorant-partnership-program-in-2023
" there are many requirements to take into account, but it is expected to prioritize the entry of organizations with big names and huge fanbases, the money they have will not be a major factor in their election."
(keyword is huge fanbases)
we know Fnatic fans are still butthurt because of the 0:5 but please it's time to face realtiy
RGS_OnToP [#23]https://blix.gg/news/details-on-the-valorant-partnership-program-in-2023
" there are many requirements to take into account, but it is expected to prioritize the entry of organizations with big names and huge fanbases, the money they have will not be a major factor in their election."
(keyword is huge fanbases)
we know Fnatic fans are still butthurt because of the 0:5 but please it's time to face realtiy
Sen isn't even relevant anymore. They would need a whole rebuild around TENZ and SICK to stay competitive.
I know you're BUTThurt that sen fell off harder then my nana
delusional_paperrex_fan [#7]Leo , Enzo , Stax , Benkai , Shao , Sacy , crashies , foxz , JoXJo , Shyy and Mazino >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BcWho?
W
xD1LL4N [#24]Sen isn't even relevant anymore. They would need a whole rebuild around TENZ and SICK to stay competitive.
I know you're BUTThurt that sen fell off harder then my nana
when sentinels are no longer relevant
why do they still have the highest viewership in NA?
for comparison North American Grand final between XSET and OpTic Gaming didn't even make it into the Top 5 of the event by Peak Viewers.
and optic is currently Na number 1 team
why do sentinels have so many tweets with 10-30k like ratio?
why do sentinels video on youtube on avg have 270-400k views ?
compare Sentinel's numbers with the teams you think are relevant
and then tell me again sentinels are no longer relevant 😂
delusional_paperrex_fan [#7]Leo , Enzo , Stax , Benkai , Shao , Sacy , crashies , foxz , JoXJo , Shyy and Mazino >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BcWho?
Remove all APAC players and it would be a valid list. In the end NA and EU owns your region
delusional_paperrex_fan [#11]nth's intiator
ohhhh sorry i only watched nth like twice and it waS just clips of meteor dominating LMAO
Well, he is talking about the initiator role? That has nothing to do with the rest of his team really.
Also, you all are sleeping on BCJ. A top-three initiator in NA for sure. Best in the world though idk about that. He hasn't even played against any non-NA teams. Idk how he is supposed to judge that.
DELUSIONAL_LAKIA_FAN [#35]but like i dont see many people saying stax is the best initiator. most people say crashies/enzo/sacy.
most people think of stax as one of the best breach players ajd pioneer of breach no???
enzo? Wtf this guy did to be cosidered one of the best? If I remember he had one of the worst stats on sova
RGS_OnToP [#28]when sentinels are no longer relevant
why do they still have the highest viewership in NA?
for comparison North American Grand final between XSET and OpTic Gaming didn't even make it into the Top 5 of the event by Peak Viewers.
and optic is currently Na number 1 team
why do sentinels have so many tweets with 10-30k like ratio?
why do sentinels video on youtube on avg have 270-400k views ?
compare Sentinel's numbers with the teams you think are relevant
and then tell me again sentinels are no longer relevant 😂
where are sentinels in the rankings? not even top 10 anymore.
Viewers dont equal skill. keep enjoying your clout team, they aren't relevent in top tier valorant teams. ?
when was the last time they played good? iceland last year LOLOLOLOL
xD1LL4N [#16]LMAO xset are a bigger and more profitiable org then Sentinels.
But neither are making francisings Lets be real
Xset isnt a profitable org, infact most of the orgs arent profitable lol. Sentinels on the other hand is a profitable org because of their content, as reported by Bodork
thiagomds [#36]enzo? Wtf this guy did to be cosidered one of the best? If I remember he had one of the worst stats on sova
He has good stats on sova lol what are you smoking, also he's easily top 5 itw on fade maybe even top 3
xD1LL4N [#37]where are sentinels in the rankings? not even top 10 anymore.
Viewers dont equal skill. keep enjoying your clout team, they aren't relevent in top tier valorant teams. ?
when was the last time they played good? iceland last year LOLOLOLOL
Ranking ?
do you think riot awards slot based on current ranking or what?
what a logic fnatic never won anything in years but because they are currently playing well they get a slot lol (I am aware that fnatic will get a slot but definitely not because they were so good)😝
just so Sentinels is still the most consistent team in NA
https://twitter.com/vranking_gg/status/1534444143195443200
BTW Viewers = money (pretty sure Riot want to make money )
uyheehe [#20]holy fuck you pussies are so embarrassing, stax literally called VS the best team after they won against Acend in group stage masters 3. stop getting offended for the players they dont know you
DRX goes into every event waving their cocks around saying they’re the best only to get bounced lol
thiagomds [#36]enzo? Wtf this guy did to be cosidered one of the best? If I remember he had one of the worst stats on sova
People keep talking about Alfa and Derke but the biggest upgrade in our team was Enzo. Big brain initiator with solid aim and positioning.
RGS_OnToP [#41]Ranking ?
do you think riot awards slot based on current ranking or what?
what a logic fnatic never won anything in years but because they are currently playing well they get a slot lol (I am aware that fnatic will get a slot but definitely not because they were so good)😝
just so Sentinels is still the most consistent team in NA
https://twitter.com/vranking_gg/status/1534444143195443200BTW Viewers = money (pretty sure Riot want to make money )
riot wants skilled players to represent their game, not a stream team
RGS_OnToP [#28]when sentinels are no longer relevant
why do they still have the highest viewership in NA?
for comparison North American Grand final between XSET and OpTic Gaming didn't even make it into the Top 5 of the event by Peak Viewers.
and optic is currently Na number 1 team
why do sentinels have so many tweets with 10-30k like ratio?
why do sentinels video on youtube on avg have 270-400k views ?
compare Sentinel's numbers with the teams you think are relevant
and then tell me again sentinels are no longer relevant 😂
if tenz,shahz,sick,dapr leave they become just a dysfunctional irrelevant org
if everyone from 100T,C9,OpTic,TSM,FaZe,NRG leave the orgs will still stay relevant
nutab1e [#47]riot wants skilled players to represent their game, not a stream team
a stream team https://liquipedia.net/valorant/Sentinels vs your skilled team https://liquipedia.net/valorant/Fnatic something is wrong here 😁
RGS_OnToP [#49]a stream team https://liquipedia.net/valorant/Sentinels vs your skilled team https://liquipedia.net/valorant/Fnatic something is wrong here 😁
what is wrong? all I see is a bunch of loss and management change in 2022?
jawn [#48]if tenz,shahz,sick,dapr leave they become just a dysfunctional irrelevant org
if everyone from 100T,C9,OpTic,TSM,FaZe,NRG leave the orgs will still stay relevant
but they are not leaving 😂and btw Sentinels would still have bugha and the halo team
RGS_OnToP [#51]but they are not leaving 😂and btw Sentinels would still have bugha and the halo team
they WILL leave eventually, and rito would be stuck with an icompetent org that takes 2 years to hire proper coaching staff, they didn't get in the LCS for a reason
nutab1e [#50]what is wrong? all I see is a bunch of loss and management change in 2022?
so a Team with so many 1te trophy is a stream teams but a team who barley won shit is skilled lol
RGS_OnToP [#53]so a Team with so many 1te trophy is a stream teams but a team who barley won shit is skilled lol
yes
jawn [#52]they WILL leave eventually, and rito would be stuck with an icompetent org that takes 2 years to hire proper coaching staff, they didn't get in the LCS for a reason
LCS is a completly different story
1.Phoenix 1 was a medicore successful team with lower medicore popularity vs Sentinels Na most decorated team and the world most popular team
2.2. league of legends is the undisputed top dog on MOBA while Valorant is only the number two in terms of FPS with a decent distance behind CSGO
this makes it very unlikely that riot will reject the most popular team
If you realy think Riot will denied NA most successful and most famous team and to give the slot to teams(nrg,optic.faze,xset.........) that no one wants to see then you should go to the doctor lol
RGS_OnToP [#56]LCS is a completly different story
1.Phoenix 1 was a medicore successful team with lower medicore popularity vs Sentinels Na most decorated team and the world most popular team
2.2. league of legends is the undisputed top dog on MOBA while Valorant is only the number two in terms of FPS with a decent distance behind CSGO
this makes it very unlikely that riot will reject the most popular teamIf you realy think Riot will denied NA most successful and most famous team and to give the slot to teams(nrg,optic.faze,xset.........) that no one wants to see then you should go to the doctor lol
Sentinels' popularity starts and ends with it's players, which will play in the franchised league with or without the org. There is literally 0 incentive for them to have Sentinels in the league, they have 0 structure and overall team culture
jawn [#57]Sentinels' popularity starts and ends with it's players, which will play in the franchised league with or without the org. There is literally 0 incentive for them to have Sentinels in the league, they have 0 structure and overall team culture
what nonsense players like Tenz, sinatraa and shahzam are contractually bound to Sentinels
and especially with Tenz, Sentinels will have a protection mechanism built into the contract to protect the 1.5M they have paid for him
and why should riot put themselves through all this? as a whole, sentinels still delivers the highest viewership figures
the numbers clearly say Valorant viewers want to see Sentinels
and then give the slot to teams that don't even have 40% of sentinel's viewers
would be suicide lol
RGS_OnToP [#59]what nonsense players like Tenz, sinatraa and shahzam are contractually bound to Sentinels
and especially with Tenz, Sentinels will have a protection mechanism built into the contract to protect the 1.5M they have paid for himand why should riot put themselves through all this? as a whole, sentinels still delivers the highest viewership figures
the numbers clearly say Valorant viewers want to see Sentinelsand then give the slot to teams that don't even have 40% of sentinel's viewers
would be suicide lol
if they don't get selected, the valorant team will get dropped, they get paid very high salaries that will be impossible to maintain without participating in the league. Riot is smart enough to understand that they don't need the Sentinels org, they just need their players. It's not that hard to understand that Sentinels are 1 roster away from being irrelevant.
dude the last time sinatraa was playing a pro match was over a year ago but Sentinels still keep him and paid him his salary
sinatraa himself said in a stream that he really appreciates that sentinels stood by him and didn't kick him because of the acusation unlike what orgs like 100t or acend have done with their player
so i wouldn't be so sure about tenz and shahzam becoming free agent
for the unlikely scenario that sentinels doesn't get a slot
stats dont lie viewer want to see sentinels
It's like everyone is addicted to heroin but you want to force people to buy weed from you because you think as long as they smoke enough weed the same effects as heroin will occur lol
Riot will give people what they want to see
hellohello139 [#30]Remove all APAC players and it would be a valid list. In the end NA and EU owns your region
bro's still mad about that time they got spanked by xerxia and prx
Kezyyz [#31]ohhhh sorry i only watched nth like twice and it waS just clips of meteor dominating LMAO
all g , i just included all the intiators participating in copenhagen
hellohello139 [#30]Remove all APAC players and it would be a valid list. In the end NA and EU owns your region
g2 and guard got dogged by prx lmfao
RGS_OnToP [#22]https://blix.gg/news/details-on-the-valorant-partnership-program-in-2023
" there are many requirements to take into account, but it is expected to prioritize the entry of organizations with big names and huge fanbases, the money they have will not be a major factor in their election."
(keyword is huge fanbases)
yeah, and tsm's proposal got rejected. you've seen how vocal their fanbase is. so my point stands that it's impossible to predict what riot is gonna do. and if sentinels make it, they'll have a roster change too.
juno_VLR [#69]yeah, and tsm's proposal got rejected. you've seen how vocal their fanbase is. so my point stands that it's impossible to predict what riot is gonna do. and if sentinels make it, they'll have a roster change too.
1.where did you read the news that tsm's proposal got rejected because I can't find anything about it
and that's TSM we're talking about, such news would be reported everywhere
2.in case the news is true
-Remember Tsm CEO is in hot water right now because of all the accusations against him
-Tsm itself also has financial problems because of the crypto shit
Tsm problems cannot be compared with Sentinels, which basically only lack supporting staff
romanval [#63]stax + sacy + saadhak > crashies + bcj + victor
idk about Victor, but it's fair for Crashies to be on the left side too.
delusional_paperrex_fan [#66]all g , i just included all the intiators participating in copenhagen
nah but realistically i only think like shao,benkai,stax,enzo,leo,crashies,sacy are better and he could still be better than some of those guys
hellohello139 [#30]Remove all APAC players and it would be a valid list. In the end NA and EU owns your region
What's wrong with you apac is amazing and genuinely one of the best regions to watch
Kezyyz [#73]nah but realistically i only think like shao,benkai,stax,enzo,leo,crashies,sacy are better and he could still be better than some of those guys
read #35 about stax
bcj himself said stax is best controller while talking shit
thiagomds [#36]enzo? Wtf this guy did to be cosidered one of the best? If I remember he had one of the worst stats on sova
top 5 itw as a intiator his support is insane
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