Most: Sentinels without dropping a single map
2nd: Gambit with the 13-0 against g2 and flawless 3-0 against envy
3rd: acend really good run till finals were gambit gave them a really hard time going 3-2
Least: Optic nearly didnt make playoffs + knocked to lower bracket but still braced themselves together to win 3-0
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Shownu [#2]Sentinels were a big fluke
yes kryptix mid godvera wouldve smacked them 3-0 if he wasnt too busy carrying vitality's ass in the bench
Shownu [#2]Sentinels were a big fluke
Doesnt matter, their win was still impressive asf. No map loss in the whole tourney
kristof [#6]Gambit lost to 100t so its not that impressive
that's why it's the second one, not the best u dumbass
sorry, ur bait is awful
ItsMeDio [#7]that's why it's the second one, not the best u dumbass
sorry, ur bait is awful
gambit should be the 3rd
acend won champs without losing
100% more impressive than gambit’s run at a small masters
kristof [#8]gambit should be the 3rd
acend won champs without losing
100% more impressive than gambit’s run at a small masters
U are forgetting the fiasco with VK in Champions
kristof [#10]no im not?
Well Acend wouldn't have qualified for the playoffs if not for Riot ruling and even tho I like Acend a lot....adds a lot of doubt to their Champions Win and so deserves to be below Gambit
kristof [#8]gambit should be the 3rd
acend won champs without losing
100% more impressive than gambit’s run at a small masters
but acend almost lost to BR (should have lost)
TmhariMummy [#11]Well Acend wouldn't have qualified for the playoffs if not for Riot ruling and even tho I like Acend a lot....adds a lot of doubt to their Champions Win and so deserves to be below Gambit
nah cant put gambit above after choking 11-3 against washed CS boomers and VK wouldnt have won without glitches
sooo
ItsMeDio [#12]but acend almost lost to BR (should have lost)
“almost”
what kind of argument even is that
Matrix13e [#13]br lost to acend stay mad lol
i'm not mad but he said acend run > gambit run
acend almost lost to BR, didn't 13-0ed certain team, and their player is not the best/top ACS in the tournament
so, in my opinion, Gambit at Master Berlin > Acend at Champions
kristof [#14]nah cant put gambit above after choking 11-3 against washed CS boomers and VK wouldnt have won without glitches
sooo
100T played masterfully in that particular match tho while deffo was having one of the worst days of his 2021 pro career (it's pretty normal now)....like I can see your doubts....all I'm saying is that I think Acend being lower than Gambit is justified as Gambit destroyed G2 and NV
kristof [#15]“almost”
what kind of argument even is that
also, gambit 13-0ed some team, and get the final 3-0 flawlessly
u can't say Acend > Gambit
ItsMeDio [#16]i'm not mad but he said acend run > gambit run
acend almost lost to BR, didn't 13-0ed certain team, and their player is not the best/top ACS in the tournament
so, in my opinion, Gambit at Master Berlin > Acend at Champions
almost losing is still better than losing😹😹💩💩
ItsMeDio [#18]also, gambit 13-0ed some team, and get the final 3-0 flawlessly
u can't say Acend > Gambit
The competition is higher at champions. teams are more prepared and better.
Acend>>> because flawless run
TmhariMummy [#17]100T played masterfully in that particular match tho while deffo was having one of the worst days of his 2021 pro career (it's pretty normal now)....like I can see your doubts....all I'm saying is that I think Acend being lower than Gambit is justified as Gambit destroyed G2 and NV
thanks for explaining why they lost! doesnt change anything at all😹😹
not gonna give it to gambit based on 2 games against chokers when the whole tournament should be taken into account
kristof [#14]nah cant put gambit above after choking 11-3 against washed CS boomers and VK wouldnt have won without glitches
sooo
yeah, a camera aced every round and won the game
kristof [#21]thanks for explaining why they lost! doesnt change anything at all😹😹
not gonna give it to gambit based on 2 games against chokers when the whole tournament should be taken into account
Man u are coping hard
CowboySG [#24]Optic also had the highest level of competition of any masters, while sentinels had the least.
Optic also had to play significantly more games than any team in any masters.
Not saying I disagree with your list, but I don't think any of the previous champions would have won this past masters.
Nope
CowboySG [#24]Optic also had the highest level of competition of any masters, while sentinels had the least.
Optic also had to play significantly more games than any team in any masters.
Not saying I disagree with your list, but I don't think any of the previous champions would have won this past masters.
just no
kristof [#26]gave them info which helped a lot
the camera had info in literally 3 rounds and was bronken in the 3
CowboySG [#24]Optic also had the highest level of competition of any masters, while sentinels had the least.
Optic also had to play significantly more games than any team in any masters.
Not saying I disagree with your list, but I don't think any of the previous champions would have won this past masters.
teams improve over time. so, i think just because competition has improved since last time, it doesn't take anything away from those tournament wins.
Midrick [#29]the camera had info in literally 3 rounds and was bronken in the 3
“JhoW used the Cypher camera exploit on six (6) rounds of the match.”
https://nerdstreet.com/news/2021/12/vivo-keyd-cypher-cam-exploit-what-happened
u should be thankful that u didnt have to forfeit
ShyftNot1 [#30]teams improve over time. so, i think just because competition has improved since last time, it doesn't take anything away from those tournament wins.
I'm not taking away from them, but acting like optics run isn't impressive is disingenuous.
- Sentinels Win wasnt special because at that time there were no strats just click heads and you win and at that time Sen was favorite so not really impressive when its expected.
- Gambit played well but to be honest that was expected aswell...
- Maybe I'm blind but I just dont get how acend even won champions. like they barely won the games to get out of groups and then they were on the easy side of the bracket thats how they got to the final. But when looking at each game they never impressed me. KRU on the other hand had an insane performance in champions I think nobody without latam copium expected them to go that far and their games where crazy especially their last game against gambit.
- Optic did a good job in masters 1 but with nerfed emea and double elim bracket in playoffs it was about time to win something. The real impressive run was without a doubt by zeta. Zeta was a team full of bots before this masters and all of a sudden they wake up and decide to actually play that was actually crazy.
So only valid order:
- Zeta Division Masters 1 2022
- KRÜ Champions 2021
CowboySG [#24]Optic also had the highest level of competition of any masters, while sentinels had the least.
Optic also had to play significantly more games than any team in any masters.
Not saying I disagree with your list, but I don't think any of the previous champions would have won this past masters.
um no fpx and no full fnatic team meant less competition
number1_ScreaM_fan [#34]um no fpx and no full fnatic team meant less competition
Fnatic still lost to G2. Stop trying to pretend G2 doesn't exist. Also every team except maybe NIP was good enough to win it. On average Optic played better teams than the rest of the previous winners.
CowboySG [#24]Optic also had the highest level of competition of any masters, while sentinels had the least.
Optic also had to play significantly more games than any team in any masters.
Not saying I disagree with your list, but I don't think any of the previous champions would have won this past masters.
not highest level when only 2 of 3 emea teams didnt play or with half roster. on top of that it was double elim bracket in playoffs which makes it easier. I think copenhagen will be the masters with highest level of competition. all emea teams will play so no copium from us. JP and KR maybe showing up aswell and BR/LATAM have atleast one good team aswell
CowboySG [#35]Fnatic still lost to G2. Stop trying to pretend G2 doesn't exist. Also every team except maybe NIP was good enough to win it. On average Optic played better teams than the rest of the previous winners.
na copium na is going to get shit on by FPX and FNC at masters 2 lol
CowboySG [#32]I'm not taking away from them, but acting like optics run isn't impressive is disingenuous.
the point of OP's list was to rank them from most impressive tournament win to least impressive. i don't think he was saying that optic wasn't impressive rather he was saying other tournament wins were more impressive.
MiguelArtz [#36]not highest level when only 2 of 3 emea teams didnt play or with half roster. on top of that it was double elim bracket in playoffs which makes it easier. I think copenhagen will be the masters with highest level of competition. all emea teams will play so no copium from us. JP and KR maybe showing up aswell and BR/LATAM have atleast one good team aswell
Assuming nothing bad happens, Copenhagen should be the best, I agree.
I'm not sold on fnatic though, they still lost to G2. FPX probably gets top 3 masters though if not first, I agree.
However, there were no pushovers this Masters, which is more what I'm referring to, Optic didn't have a single easy matchup.
Matrix13e [#37]na copium na is going to get shit on by FPX and FNC at masters 2 lol
Considering G2 won't be there to let the region down, maybe you're right.
CowboySG [#35]Fnatic still lost to G2. Stop trying to pretend G2 doesn't exist. Also every team except maybe NIP was good enough to win it. On average Optic played better teams than the rest of the previous winners.
Guard dominated in regional while shit the bed in LAN
LAN and regional can yield extremely different results
MiguelArtz [#33]
- Sentinels Win wasnt special because at that time there were no strats just click heads and you win and at that time Sen was favorite so not really impressive when its expected.
- Gambit played well but to be honest that was expected aswell...
- Maybe I'm blind but I just dont get how acend even won champions. like they barely won the games to get out of groups and then they were on the easy side of the bracket thats how they got to the final. But when looking at each game they never impressed me. KRU on the other hand had an insane performance in champions I think nobody without latam copium expected them to go that far and their games where crazy especially their last game against gambit.
- Optic did a good job in masters 1 but with nerfed emea and double elim bracket in playoffs it was about time to win something. The real impressive run was without a doubt by zeta. Zeta was a team full of bots before this masters and all of a sudden they wake up and decide to actually play that was actually crazy.
So only valid order:
- Zeta Division Masters 1 2022
- KRÜ Champions 2021
Acend beat Liquid and Gambit to win Champions....they definitely played extremely bad in the groups....but they were a completely different beast once they reached the final playoffs
CowboySG [#40]Considering G2 won't be there to let the region down, maybe you're right.
well ofc they wont be there if they playd like shit and FPX was the best in stage 1 and they did not go they would have won masters but u will see this masters how good FPX and FNC are if they play with full players and can go lmao.
TmhariMummy [#41]Guard dominated in regional while shit the bed in LAN
LAN and regional can yield extremely different results
Sure, but people keep acting like Fnatic was some invincible force that would've beaten everyone.
CowboySG [#44]Sure, but people keep acting like Fnatic was some invincible force that would've beaten everyone.
Nah that's just shit speculation....we can't say anything until Fnatic has played with the same comp with which they dominate regional EU...ig Copenhagen would answer a lot of these doubts
TmhariMummy [#45]Nah that's just shit speculation....we can't say anything until Fnatic has played with the same comp with which they dominate regional EU...ig Copenhagen would answer a lot of these doubts
Yeah, fnatic looking good. Would be shocked in they don't get top 3. Of course they have to show up in playoffs first, so we'll see.
imo acend run has to be the least impressive.
their run was shrouded in controversy with the keyd stars drama
and only a few members of the team were hauling ass in their run unlike gambit and even sen
and, and considering what happened to the team shortly after their champs run
i still think it would have been much more satisfying (for me at least) if gambit had won champs
oh and i really dislike starxo so maybe i am biased
reallyrainy [#48]imo acend run has to be the least impressive.
their run was shrouded in controversy with the keyd stars drama
and only a few members of the team were hauling ass in their run unlike gambit and even sen
and, and considering what happened to the team shortly after their champs run
i still think it would have been much more satisfying (for me at least) if gambit had won champsoh and i really dislike starxo so maybe i am biased
nah but acend had a very impressive playoffs run compared to optic who were droppping maps and didnt hit their peak till like against loud
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