Not even when they were as envy- 0-3 GMB and 0-2 ACE .Talk all you want but the fact is that masters 1 boasted a weaker EMEA, no FPX, FNC sub situation and so optics run is factually the least impressive of any of the lans wins so far in valorant- I would favor fnatic in a potential international match.
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trembolonaRage [#3]That’s why I rate them this way
1-3 gmb, fpx, fnc
4 optic
5 drx
6 loud
i wouldn't put gmb that high but fpx and fnc are definitely around the top
Verstepping33 [#5]Please lets wait till Masters 2. I don't want this to age like....
trash talk is best from a contested position. I fear if i try to trash talk na after masters 2 it will just be punching down
HaSanity [#8]i was saying fnc 2-1 sen in reykjavik... but this time i am doubling down😈😈😈 surely fnc dont choke this time
fnc 2-1 against sen in copehagen?
Dr_DoofenshmirtZ [#9]i mean, u had g2 (who owned fnc during challengers, ended 2nd), and didnt even finish top 4 and got bullied by yoru(lol)
they were worse than fnc most of stage 1,1 series doesn't change that
Dr_DoofenshmirtZ [#9]i mean, u had g2 (who owned fnc during challengers, ended 2nd), and didnt even finish top 4 and got bullied by yoru(lol)
seeding match + motivation and vibe got killed after they realized braveaf probably wont be able to travel
trembolonaRage [#3]That’s why I rate them this way
1-3 gmb, fpx, fnc
4 optic
5 drx
6 loud
I’d prolly put VK(with mwzera) as #1
Dr_DoofenshmirtZ [#9]i mean, u had g2 (who owned fnc during challengers, ended 2nd), and didnt even finish top 4 and got bullied by yoru(lol)
They barely qualified for playoffs then went crazy for some reason but they got grouped this time around
Dr_DoofenshmirtZ [#9]i mean, u had g2 (who owned fnc during challengers, ended 2nd), and didnt even finish top 4 and got bullied by yoru(lol)
nah
trembolonaRage [#3]That’s why I rate them this way
1-3 gmb, fpx, fnc
4 optic
5 drx
6 loud
id replace gmb with guild (based on recent games not overall performances ofc)
hellohello139 [#20]FPX would get shit on by OpTic easily
chet literally said they were getting smashed by fpx at iceland but sure
Mapusaurus [#22]chet literally said they were getting smashed by fpx at iceland but sure
yeah because they are only scrimers LOL
CowboySG [#31]M3 was Envy's first LAN, and if EMEA was so much better, Acend wouldn't have choked vs. 100T. (Also 100T beat Gambit too)
In Champs, Envy ran into issues with covid.
In M1, EMEA's representatives failed to make it out of the first round.
cant tell if this guy is trolling or actually just braindead
kristof [#32]cant tell if this guy is trolling or actually just braindead
EMEA doing everything they can to discredit Optic. I'm just returning the favor.
Matrix13e [#2]100% NA will get shit on by EMEA at masters 2
nah, apac got the next one for sureeeeeeeee
Dr_DoofenshmirtZ [#9]i mean, u had g2 (who owned fnc during challengers, ended 2nd), and didnt even finish top 4 and got bullied by yoru(lol)
Fnatic was better than G2 the whole stage and even played this best series in the history of valorant (vs M3C) one series changes nothing and the yoru comp is really thought out and difficult to counter if you have not played against it before so them losing to yoru literally means nothing
FNC won against 2 NA teams (V1 and C9)
GMB won against 1 NA team (NV)
ACE won against 1 NA team.(NV)
I don't doubt these teams are good cause I have watched them play but I don't know why EMEA people talk about these stats like it even matters like that. Then say optic run is a fluke and complain that they weren't in full form or whatever.
edit: sorry i left out NV losing to Acend
CowboySG [#33]EMEA doing everything they can to discredit Optic. I'm just returning the favor.
so both. ok😹😹
CTG [#38]FNC won against 2 NA teams (V1 and C9)
GMB won against 1 NA team (NV)
ACE won against 1 NA team.(NV)I don't doubt these teams are good cause I have watched them play but I don't know why EMEA people talk about these stats like it even matters like that. Then say optic run is a fluke and complain that they weren't in full form or whatever.
edit: sorry i left out NV losing to Acend
Emea had a superiority complex to the point if they didn't win, it's obviously not their fault.
CowboySG [#41]Emea had a superiority complex to the point if they didn't win, it's obviously not their fault.
that's eupe for u
CowboySG [#44]Don't even hate EMEA teams. Their fans are insufferable though.
yep. couldn't take criticism to the point that sa fans became better than them
LogicValo [#37]Fnatic was better than G2 the whole stage and even played this best series in the history of valorant (vs M3C) one series changes nothing and the yoru comp is really thought out and difficult to counter if you have not played against it before so them losing to yoru literally means nothing
Your argument is the most brain dead thing I’ve heard in my life. You basically just said, “well actually they just really thought out their comp and outplayed the shit out of fnc but it means nothing even though they were outplayed”. Bruh wtf
Mapusaurus [#19]old 100t would get owned by fokus
Yeah that’s what they said about Gambit and Acend but hey that’s all you homie
CTG [#38]FNC won against 2 NA teams (V1 and C9)
GMB won against 1 NA team (NV)
ACE won against 1 NA team.(NV)I don't doubt these teams are good cause I have watched them play but I don't know why EMEA people talk about these stats like it even matters like that. Then say optic run is a fluke and complain that they weren't in full form or whatever.
edit: sorry i left out NV losing to Acend
Acend won against Envy at Champios, right?
CTG [#38]FNC won against 2 NA teams (V1 and C9)
GMB won against 1 NA team (NV)
ACE won against 1 NA team.(NV)I don't doubt these teams are good cause I have watched them play but I don't know why EMEA people talk about these stats like it even matters like that. Then say optic run is a fluke and complain that they weren't in full form or whatever.
edit: sorry i left out NV losing to Acend
acend won against envy brother
Deadpanmitten94 [#47]Your argument is the most brain dead thing I’ve heard in my life. You basically just said, “well actually they just really thought out their comp and outplayed the shit out of fnc but it means nothing even though they were outplayed”. Bruh wtf
Your calling me braindead? He was commenting saying that G2 were somehow better than fnatic based off one serires ( and I was stating that one series means nothing especially based the whole stage performance which is more indicative than a single series especially against a team who is on a run. He also said that G2 got destroyed by yoru and I was purely pointing out that playing a co-ordinated team, with a new idea, that have not played against so only know how to counter in theory is fucking hard to do even for the best of teams. Its braindead to say that playing against a team who has an entirely different comp to the meta is easy. Even the top coaches (including sliggy on his stream) would tell you that playing against a team who has a thought out comp for the first time is almost impossible to win.
LogicValo [#56]Your calling me braindead? He was commenting saying that G2 were somehow better than fnatic based off one serires ( and I was stating that one series means nothing especially based the whole stage performance which is more indicative than a single series especially against a team who is on a run. He also said that G2 got destroyed by yoru and I was purely pointing out that playing a co-ordinated team, with a new idea, that have not played against so only know how to counter in theory is fucking hard to do even for the best of teams. Its braindead to say that playing against a team who has an entirely different comp to the meta is easy. Even the top coaches (including sliggy on his stream) would tell you that playing against a team who has a thought out comp for the first time is almost impossible to win.
Didn’t read you wasted your time lmao
trembolonaRage [#3]That’s why I rate them this way
1-3 gmb, fpx, fnc
4 optic
5 drx
6 loud
ah i wouldn't put drx top5 rn. they r good but idk abt being in top5
number1_100T_fan [#54]old 100T owns emea
they beat 2 emea teams that had no lan experience then lost to envy😹😹💩💩
CTG [#38]FNC won against 2 NA teams (V1 and C9)
GMB won against 1 NA team (NV)
ACE won against 1 NA team.(NV)I don't doubt these teams are good cause I have watched them play but I don't know why EMEA people talk about these stats like it even matters like that. Then say optic run is a fluke and complain that they weren't in full form or whatever.
edit: sorry i left out NV losing to Acend
tl beat c9 and sen
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