M3C will not qualify to M2

And if they not gonna make roster change or at least roleswap they will not qualify even on Champions.

Just open deffo's page(https://www.vlr.gg/player/252/d3ffo/?timespan=90d) on vlr.gg and watch stats of last 90d
KD - only last game on Chamber made its positive, other agents negative
Look to FK/FD stats. Only on jett he barely got 1 . All other are negative. This guy barely can entry, probably good passive sniper who can make diff in defence half like he did on chamber vs NaVi, but really bad at making entry for attack half

Right now he is like Kiles for Acend

I am not a hater. Its just stats and facts. This is becoming more and more obvious that d3ffo is the weakest player in this squad for now. Stop ignoring this problem. They need to make Sheydos duelist like he was on start and give d3ffo more passive or supportive role if they are not ready to make any changes.
If you will say that his role its just go first and die to look in monitor 3 minutes and then do it again... It means that you retarded as fuck. Duelist must win duels and create more space to his team.

Thats all.

Ok

I love how wrong this guy is

anyone hatin on d3ffo is not actually watching the games

JustHunter [#3]

I love how wrong this guy is

Imagine loosing map in bad fashion to much weakest version of NaVi comparing to 1st EMEA and loosing to Guild who were 2-0ed by you in last season 🤣

Yeah, m3c surely will easily qualify to m2!

v1_wins_this_masters [#4]

anyone hatin on d3ffo is not actually watching the games

No hate, im m3c fan.
All im talking about its roleswap

Also i love how you vlr.gg guys cant prove your points, only write that someone is wrong without any proves

Just relying on stats will blindside you. Ntm that Gambit is the type of team that can improve fast af when they want to. Remember how Gambit was the weakest looking Team from the major region in first day of groups in champs?
Then they manage to go to GF and all 5 maps.
Don't doubt a team that has 2 of the best players of the world and the best IGL, along with deffo who carries out his role successfully and Sheydos the trados.

+1 hope m3c can improve fast enough, i want to see them in master 2 or champions

Nisham [#7]

Just relying on stats will blindside you. Ntm that Gambit is the type of team that can improve fast af when they want to. Remember how Gambit was the weakest looking Team from the major region in first day of groups in champs?
Then they manage to go to GF and all 5 maps.
Don't doubt a team that has 2 of the best players of the world and the best IGL, along with deffo who carries out his role successfully and Sheydos the trados.

Do you like how they improved since last season?
Do you tried to make analysis why they lost to acend on icebox on champions?

Not guilty of one person for sure, but they were on top because there was meta of astra and viper which allowed to play slow and very hard punishment to enemy for any mistakes.

Currently meta allows you to play more agressive and its very hard to punish this sort of teams rn. I think only Zeta were good at it. Remember that agressive BR NA and Asia teams were on top this time. In EMEA the most agressive team FPX was on top last season.

To play more agressive you basically need strong enteyfragger. Its simple.

name checks out

yuri_tarded [#6]

No hate, im m3c fan.
All im talking about its roleswap

Also i love how you vlr.gg guys cant prove your points, only write that someone is wrong without any proves

No hate, im m3c fan.

lol check ur reply #5

yuri_tarded [#5]

Imagine loosing map in bad fashion to much weakest version of NaVi comparing to 1st EMEA and loosing to Guild who were 2-0ed by you in last season 🤣

Yeah, m3c surely will easily qualify to m2!

really dud, 1 bad match and automatically not qualify?

yuri_tarded [#9]

Do you like how they improved since last season?
Do you tried to make analysis why they lost to acend on icebox on champions?

Not guilty of one person for sure, but they were on top because there was meta of astra and viper which allowed to play slow and very hard punishment to enemy for any mistakes.

Currently meta allows you to play more agressive and its very hard to punish this sort of teams rn. I think only Zeta were good at it. Remember that agressive BR NA and Asia teams were on top this time. In EMEA the most agressive team FPX was on top last season.

To play more agressive you basically need strong enteyfragger. Its simple.

"To play more agressive you basically need strong enteyfragger. Its simple."
No????
The whole reason Optic won over Loud in finals was due to their support players coming online. While Loud had only Aspas. Zeta weren't aggressive, they had strong defaults and had high explosive entries after draining util. Only thing bad about m3c is their comps.

Elcatsu [#11]

No hate, im m3c fan.

lol check ur reply #5

Yeah, they lost map to NaVi in a bad facision and were owned by Guild, am i wrong about it?
Fan is not a crazy cocksucker if you didnt knew.

you must be a valorant god or something.
but i trust engh and redgar's judgement more than random vlr analyst like you so, fuck off.

trola [#12]

really dud, 1 bad match and automatically not qualify?

0-2 to G2 last season
0-2 to Guild
2-1 to weakest version of navi. Btw they made it 2-0 against stronger version of that team last season

yuri_tarded [#14]

Yeah, they lost map to NaVi in a bad facision and were owned by Guild, am i wrong about it?
Fan is not a crazy cocksucker if you didnt knew.

title

M3C will not qualify to M2

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Imagine loosing map in bad fashion to much weakest version of NaVi comparing to 1st EMEA and loosing to Guild who were 2-0ed by you in last season 🤣

Yeah, m3c surely will easily qualify to m2!

Yeah that's for sure not a hate.

its weird how vlr clowns zombs for bad stats, but will defend d3ffo and say stats don't matter.

Elcatsu [#17]

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M3C will not qualify to M2

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Imagine loosing map in bad fashion to much weakest version of NaVi comparing to 1st EMEA and loosing to Guild who were 2-0ed by you in last season 🤣

Yeah, m3c surely will easily qualify to m2!

Yeah that's for sure not a hate.

Guy told me i am completely wrong i answered with irony that with current form they will surely make it easily lmao why i even should explain it to you

yuri_tarded [#16]

0-2 to G2 last season
0-2 to Guild
2-1 to weakest version of navi. Btw they made it 2-0 against stronger version of that team last season

Stop comparing with last season, we all know the meta has changed and they are trying to find the right comp for every map rn. Losing one map is not the end of the world. You are underestimating Navi too.

Nisham [#13]

"To play more agressive you basically need strong enteyfragger. Its simple."
No????
The whole reason Optic won over Loud in finals was due to their support players coming online. While Loud had only Aspas. Zeta weren't aggressive, they had strong defaults and had high explosive entries after draining util. Only thing bad about m3c is their comps.

I am respecting your point, lets see how M3C will adapt to current meta
Personally i dont think this slow playstyle pays so much benefits as before

And yeah, about optic, thats what i am talking about. I want to see d3ffo on Chamber like yay and someone like Sheydos on Raze/Neon because he is much stronger rifler

trola [#15]

you must be a valorant god or something.
but i trust engh and redgar's judgement more than random vlr analyst like you so, fuck off.

I don't think either Engh or Redgar are in power to kick anyone from the team right now

The thing is, Gambit tries to sell the roster, as they are exiting esports forever (because of countless sanctions)

They won't sign anyone to make up for d3ffo's absense (that would be wasting money), they won't kick anyone, they just want to get rid of Valorant team and receive the maximum profit out of it

So, unless some another organization buys out Gambit's 4 players + coach (everyone except d3ffo), he will stay and he won't be removed / benched

Revlo [#18]

its weird how vlr clowns zombs for bad stats, but will defend d3ffo and say stats don't matter.

m3c are always right! They are never doing mistakes! You cant show and say that they are doing something wrong! You don't understand they are Valorant Gods! 😭

Revlo [#18]

its weird how vlr clowns zombs for bad stats, but will defend d3ffo and say stats don't matter.

If tenz had those stats he would get obliterated by the community

eeeeeshhh [#24]

If tenz had those stats he would get obliterated by the community

true

trola [#20]

Stop comparing with last season, we all know the meta has changed and they are trying to find the right comp for every map rn. Losing one map is not the end of the world. You are underestimating Navi too.

Its just a fact that A group is much harder than B group and even tho M3C are struggling, its a very bad signal for me

yuri_tarded [#14]

Yeah, they lost map to NaVi in a bad facision and were owned by Guild, am i wrong about it?
Fan is not a crazy cocksucker if you didnt knew.

"bad facision"

seankukuz [#27]

"bad facision"

Autochanged text by my phone

Revlo [#18]

its weird how vlr clowns zombs for bad stats, but will defend d3ffo and say stats don't matter.

That's because his own "fans" diss him.
90% of sentinels "fans" are bandwagons. If they win they overrate them, if they lose they trashthem so hard.

M3c fan base is actually wayyyy cooler and I'm not even a fan 💀

yuri_tarded [#21]

I am respecting your point, lets see how M3C will adapt to current meta
Personally i dont think this slow playstyle pays so much benefits as before

And yeah, about optic, thats what i am talking about. I want to see d3ffo on Chamber like yay and someone like Sheydos on Raze/Neon because he is much stronger rifler

I just have faith on them considering what they have accomplished so far. Ig the war also plays a huge effect on mental and I wonder if they can even go to masters even if they qual.

Rez [#29]

That's because his own "fans" diss him.
90% of sentinels "fans" are bandwagons. If they win they overrate them, if they lose they trashthem so hard.

M3c fan base is actually wayyyy cooler and I'm not even a fan 💀

Fact, but sometimes m3c fans overrespect what m3c are doing, when it is basically not working.

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DrudaL [#8]

+1 hope m3c can improve fast enough, i want to see them in master 2 or champions

same

They can. Performance is something everyone can question. Also, if they get bought out by another org (just like C9 did to gambit's cs), then they can compete anywhere.

Possible, because of how stacked EMEA is. But I don't think they will make roster changes anytime soon.

Glitchbob [#35]

Possible, because of how stacked EMEA is. But I don't think they will make roster changes anytime soon.

I think idea of roleswapes is great. Just watch what it did with Guild where trexx and Sayf made roleswap to their mains (duelist/anchor) and what it made with TL where Scream now fulltime duelist (raze neon were played before by soulcas and scream on support roles was not that good lets be honest)

Even if youre supposedly right, im p sure the team is loyal to each other and they wouldnt drop d3ffo unless absolutely necessary.

KageJ [#34]

They can. Performance is something everyone can question. Also, if they get bought out by another org (just like C9 did to gambit's cs), then they can compete anywhere.

From what i heard gambit tested deffo on smokes and he was really good on this role ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Cresp [#37]

Even if youre supposedly right, im p sure the team is loyal to each other and they wouldnt drop d3ffo unless absolutely necessary.

I mean first of all esports is a business, and if team is loosing too much its a money wasting for org, so it is forcing to make some changes because org need results. Gambit need to qualify for masters 2 to sell their roster, no one want team without results

fadezis [#39]

I mean first of all esports is a business, and if team is loosing too much its a money wasting for org, so it is forcing to make some changes because org need results. Gambit need to qualify for masters 2 to sell their roster, no one want team without results

Ange1 is right but i also dont know if m3c is affiliated with gambit still bc of the competition ban on russia, particularly if gambit is still making calls then sure deffo is probably going to get dropped in some time if he doesnt step up. But if gamb isnt managing i dont see him dropped.

fadezis [#38]

From what i heard gambit tested deffo on smokes and he was really good on this role ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Where’d you hear this

Thanks for your input, anyway

Debatable but reasonable

zardinez [#41]

Where’d you hear this

Some players which scrimmed against gambit wrote about it in ru valo esports chat. I cant say more

Nisham [#13]

"To play more agressive you basically need strong enteyfragger. Its simple."
No????
The whole reason Optic won over Loud in finals was due to their support players coming online. While Loud had only Aspas. Zeta weren't aggressive, they had strong defaults and had high explosive entries after draining util. Only thing bad about m3c is their comps.

I have another opinion in this discussion
About your vision of the problem
Like FPX fan im talking you thats the whole idea of "bad comp" is bullshit. You can win with almost any comp in this game if behind this comp solid structure(gambit won unprepared haven with simple comp. And redgar was on entry, not deffo :D) FPX added entry player (they played without entry player whole 2021) and started winning even with crazy comps(which i love), their momentum finally built. The whole idea of emea top teams (and of the world as well) its to help your entry star player to find entry. Starting round with advantage means that round is almost won. Acend helps to cNed with this, Fnatic to Derke, FPX helps to ardiis while in Gambit absolutely miracle approach. Our entry die and we gonna trade him (but this idea dont work against disciplined team ig, because entry just gonna tp/dash after he made entry so you just gonna play from disadvantage)
Sacrificing for info while in this game a lot abilities for it its kinda debatable idea. Also strong duelist is kinda x factor for the team. Like cNed,yay,derke. Bro, with all respect, last highlight from deffo that i can remember was on masters 3 (ace vs 100t)

So i think the problem is their approach, not the player or "bad comps"

fadezis [#45]

I have another opinion in this discussion
About your vision of the problem
Like FPX fan im talking you thats the whole idea of "bad comp" is bullshit. You can win with almost any comp in this game if behind this comp solid structure(gambit won unprepared haven with simple comp. And redgar was on entry, not deffo :D) FPX added entry player (they played without entry player whole 2021) and started winning even with crazy comps(which i love), their momentum finally built. The whole idea of emea top teams (and of the world as well) its to help your entry star player to find entry. Starting round with advantage means that round is almost won. Acend helps to cNed with this, Fnatic to Derke, FPX helps to ardiis while in Gambit absolutely miracle approach. Our entry die and we gonna trade him (but this idea dont work against disciplined team ig, because entry just gonna tp/dash after he made entry so you just gonna play from disadvantage)
Sacrificing for info while in this game a lot abilities for it its kinda debatable idea. Also strong duelist is kinda x factor for the team. Like cNed,yay,derke. Bro, with all respect, last highlight from deffo that i can remember was on masters 3 (ace vs 100t)

So i think the problem is their approach, not the player or "bad comps"

I say bad comp when teams don't lean into the strengths of the comp. Think more of Liquid and how they don't use or lean into the comps strenght

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bump

Bump

Aged well KEKW

why people bumping this up😹😹
they didnt even qual yet and no way they beat fpx

KilOOty [#50]

Aged well KEKW

we are not qualified yet

sweetdreams11 [#52]

we are not qualified yet

got too excited mb

aged like milk
Edit : i read the title in wrong way mb

xLeo [#54]

aged like milk
Edit : i read the title in wrong way mb

they still won't