The older versions of CS such as 1.3 , 1.4 and 1.5 (which Valorant was inspired from, besides also 1.6) were played on MR12. Riot did not take their inspiration from CS:GO. Riot Directors clearly stated at the announcement of Project A that they wanted to replicate the experience they had playing the FPS they loved in their youth years. It's not rocket science, not sure why I even need to explain this

They all hate valve for copying buy screen & MR12

How did Valve copy MR12 when Valorant took it from CS to begin with?

just objectively false

You're confused on what objectively means. You're describing simply subjective opinions. The reality is that you can track active players without official numbers, it's not rocket science (Riot offers many public APIs that enable this tracking). CS:GO currently has on average 300k more active players per day than Valorant, it's a simple objective fact that you have a hard time comprehending, this doesn't make CS better than Valorant or vice-versa, it just defines its popularity (which may change in the future or not).

There seems to be no point in discussing things with you, since you're hell bent on ignoring simple facts.

Cheers

As someone that mainly plays valorant for the last couple of years, I can confidently tell you that on a global scale counter strike is definitely more popular than valorant. There are at least 300k more daily active users in CS compared to Valorant (albeit, this difference has been reduced in the last year or so, it used to be larger in favor of CS)

The upcoming VCT season holds immense promise, and I can't wait to collaborate with my new teammates to make our mark in the CS:GO world.

I think it's super interesting that yay will play in VCT from the Liquid CS:GO roster indeed

I heard from my trusted sources that your trusted sources are not to be trusted

In reality, Singapore has nothing to do with China, historically or geographically speaking (unlike Taiwan and HK), it's a Malay related country/state at its core.

The only thing Chinese about it is that a bunch of people of Chinese descent immigrated there for better financial opportunities. Considering SG as Chinese really makes no sense.

how many matches did Liquid win in International Tournaments during 2023?
how many matches did fnatic win in International Tournaments during 2023?

If you're an actual brit, I'd suggest going back to 2nd grade, you have problems with the definitions of the words "close" and "equal"

you're right, making fun of someone's accent isn't racist... it's xenophobic

no way this guy thinks CR7 is the GOAT.... lmao what a dummy

you just like taking Ls?

https://www.vlr.gg/184522/paper-rex-vs-drx-champions-tour-2023-pacific-league-playoffs-gf

Let me know when Liquid reaches an international final, so we can see them not choke it the same way PRX does

can't choke the finals if you never reach them

This must be a troll take... statistics and facts is not something that your brain can comprehend, nothing biased with that.

you're overestimating tarik's pull with Riot... he'd be risking the currently large bag that he's getting because of Valorant for not much upside.

That would be hilarious, but I don't see how Bayern will lose this year's Bundesliga. Most, if not all, national competitors have weaker rosters compared to last season. None of them managed to replace the star players that they sold...

The question of becoming a teacher is very dependent on your location, but it can be more fulfilling than an HR position, if you have a passion for education.

If you're in an unfavorable location for teaching, HR is absolutely the way to go. You'd get opportunities for decent pay earlier in your career, and also the ability to climb corporate ladders and switch to administrative leadership positions in the mid/latter part of your career (something that teaching will take many years considering the seniority play).

The Riot Premier is excellent for people who dream of making a living by playing games

This is where you have it wrong. As someone that went from playing in the 4th national PGL CS1.6 division in Romania, all the way to winning ESL European tournaments, if I'd be a Val young player now and I would see what's happening with Ascension, I'd stay away from Premier and probably wait for CS2 to come out and try my chance to pro there.

The pyramid created by Riot only works if you prioritize players and their teams, because that's what it is based from in theory. Reality shows us that in practice this is not the case, so many people will consider it as a potential waste of time and resources. Remember, players in Premier and challengers will mainly have to pay for themselves, much like I had to pay my own plane tickets to fly to Spain to play tournaments. Eventually, nobody will risk doing that knowing that in the moment you are close to making it to the top, Riot can just pull the rug from under you.

You have no clue what you're saying. In my 8 years of playing high level CS 1.6 I've never heard any teammates (or any player for that matter) say "oh, I don't want to qualify for WCG/ESWC , I just want to finish 4th in the qualifier". Most players that commit to playing a video game full time want to make it to the top, this is not even a matter of discussion.

You're just talking nonsense now

You have to be a complete idiot to believe that Riot's decision is correct or that it promotes in any way the integrity of the sport. Quite the contrary, Riot is slowly signing the death sentence of its Valorant eSports scene (much like 99% of the franchise/partnership leagues before it)

The difference is that in CS (either 1.6, earlier versions or later versions) you didn't need an org to make it to the top level. You just need to be good (or better said, your team needed to be good enough).

On the other hand, Riot pretty much forces players to have an org in order to be at the top level, prioritizing Orgs over the players that actually provide the skill. There's nothing screaming less "sports integrity" than that.

OP is correct, Riot is selling fantasies to players saying "we want nobodies to become pro". This is not the way to achieve this. Riot is just slowly signing their own Valorant eSports death sentence, much like 99% of franchises/partnership leagues before it.

You just proved that you never played on a team nor do you understand how team dynamics work. eSports worked for many years without an org owner being involved. Wasting my time talking to you, you're truly clueless.

You're confused once again. All teams that made Ascension were already picked up. No team was ever picked up because they made Ascension. That is actually the fact.

TTR was so trash that finished 7th / 12th overall in the 2nd split, in front of 5 different teams with orgs.

Try using your brain next time before replying to me, and maybe refresh your use of dictionary (since it appears you have troubles defining simple words)

An opinion based on hypotheticals vs an opinion based on facts... I don't think there's much to "agree to disagree" on. But yeah, sure

Cheers

Do you think TTR would be FA if they qualified for Ascension?

Yes, why not? Why is that so hard to believe for you? Not only that, but you have a similar precedent created: Previously it was said that if you make Challengers you'll definitely be picked up by an Org, and that proved to not be true, since a ton of Orgs left the scene after partnership was initiated. If there was an Org interested in Valorant they would've already picked TTR, but that obviously didn't happen. Social Media influencers had to come to the rescue for some of the teams...

Doesn't look like you live too much in reality bro. You're trying to base your points on wild hypothetical assumptions that do not match the recent reality.

But anyway I'm missing the point, that would be like if Riot owned a team, doesn't make sense

Riot owns all the rights to all teams in regards to VCT partnership. Not sure what's so hard for you to comprehend. You're confused, they are paying each org.

Yeah ofc you need a 6th and stuff I'm saying who has the power to decide what, can 2 players and the coach bench the other 3? What if the team fights and don't reach an agreement on who to bench? What if they are shit all year and for nepotism they agree not to bench anyone?

You're describing issues that are applicable to partnership teams too. Not sure how this is specific to a FA team, or you're simply deluded on how team dynamics are actually working. In majority of teams the coach + some influential core of the players are the always the ones making these type of decisions.

There's no factual data to support your claim. Where did you get this "1000%" from? Pulled it out of your ass?

An orgless team making it to Ascension is only a matter of when, not if. You're kinda clueless

Looks like you don't really know what you're talking about. Everything you're mentioning is a non-issue.

First of all, if you're playing against a team who's paid by Riot are you really not gonna be paranoid about it

All teams are paid by Riot in partnership (base salary players, anything on top of the minimum is provided by Orgs). Are you not aware that Riot pays each team/org currently in partnership, per season?

Second of all who makes the roster changes?

As an FA team you'd still have to abide by the same rules: aka have a coach and substitute player available (if still applicable). In this case, it would be a decision between the players and the coach (similar to how it is done in existing Orgs as well)

Third, you can't do that forever

You don't do it forever. You do it for 2 VCT seasons, since that's how Ascension works.

We could also let the players compete FA and Riot pay them, but that wouldn't really make sense

How does this not make sense? This is the solution, period.

How are you going to create a system of promotion from Premier > VCL > Ascension > VCT if you're automatically telling FA players/teams that they cannot get into VCT ? Then what's the fucking point?

Riot, through its action, is pretty much saying: "You can be the best team in the World in Valorant, but if an Org doesn't pick you up that agrees with our terms, you practically do not exist"

are you on drugs dude? go get some sleep

WTF are you waffling about?!

gotcha, then ardiis has great math skills.... also interesting that he didn't say any of that while he was technically in LA, only after, kind of a bitch move saying only after he knows he won't be in Americas next year

He's too overconfident after making one run.

2 runs. Reaching the grand final back-to-back is considered 2 runs, not 1. Making a tournament run does not necessarily mean winning, the term "run" is short from "deep-run"

LA is homeless bro half of them dont have teeth or live in a tent

There's approx 20 mil ppl in the LA Metropolitan area with around 75k homeless population. Your math skills are great

maybe ppl didn't see it in pro play on stream, but I've had someone do that with raze in a ranked match, and get kill with ult

ngl, the only person on hard drugs here seems to be you zen-o. u gonna share?

He did ok on split and ascent. The big difference between Tokyo and now is that in Tokyo EG played more based on pre-prepared strats and he didn't need to do too much mid-rounding. Now his brain power is being used for calling and adapting way more than it was used in Tokyo.

I wonder if you realize how stupid you look/sound with these threads...

you're blind... he does similar things on gun rounds too

liberals created most esports, they didn't just make their way into them. most conservatives have been vehemently against video games for the longest time.

You're confused on how things work in CS. Valve doesn't invest in any specific region. They only host majors, which are generally speaking across the world. Teams/Orgs chose to concentrate in Europe, for better practice and easy access to third party hosted tournaments.

he played kayo only 1 map out of 5 played against loud...

the proof is in the pictures.. they're not original pictures (they've been edited, both the discord and the imessage ones actually are edited), or are you saying you can't tell the difference between edited and non-edited pictures?

the one 7-1 that brazil can be proud of?

haha ;D

Based on your logic, it should've been 2-1 EG since they threw Pearl.

idk why everyone acts so surprised... virtually all statistics showed that EG was the best team of the tournament so far (even though PRX probably played the more attractive Valorant until now)

I don't disagree, read the first part of my response

I doubt we ever argued, but I remember your username as being one of those ppl that keep making threads saying that LOCK//IN is a Masters event which doesn't hold against any logical analysis. That on top of usual EMEA biased takes that are not very good. Maybe not all your takes are idiotic, but that one surely is

you're confused... get out of California more

As someone that has been living in US for the last 12 years (also in cali), many US states (especially in the midwest and south) are shitholes compared to Denmark

Americans on average smoke more than Europeans (be that cigarettes, crack or meth)

msarez usually has idiotic takes, but here he's correct

It was clearly a mistake from PRX players, however the timing that c0m had on the rotation was very fast considering he showed himself in A main only 11 seconds before

NA mfs finally about to get humbled. no more fracture to save y'all 🤣 1 map trick team

All this talk and PRX still lost Ascent