Yeah reasonable point. I guess vlr isn't the best place to be having discussions without people going over the top with their comparisons and opinions.
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Yeah reasonable point. I guess vlr isn't the best place to be having discussions without people going over the top with their comparisons and opinions.
I see where you're coming from, the better players mechanically usually play the duelist role, that's where the superstars are - and with the plays something does, I'd say he isn't playing gekko like how normally other players do lol.
For me it's actually the other way around, instead of comparing with others, let's say, you would want to build a super team, and you can only choose forsaken as the flex OR something as the duelist for the team (ignoring the fact that most people would build a team without these two), who would you pick? I would say I would rather pick forsaken just because his versatility compared to other players, and the ability to perform at such a high level, is very near unmatched. Heck if he needs to he can also play duelist too).
This is just my opinion, while something looks to be the better player mechanically and has a lot more impact, I still think forsaken is a better player (overall in my eyes) just because he can play all the roles and agents when his team needs it. His Raze debut in Madrid still impressed me because he literally just picked it up and went nuts that game.
Something's willingness to be aggressive yielded a lot of success, but at the same time if he gets punished for it that's one valuable player down. From what I see, forsaken has been playing way more safe, letting Jinggg and something take the frags, but you can't really blame him for being more of a team player to support his teammates for success.
Every player on prx plays their part to contribute to their success, we can go all day arguing who's better than who, but ultimately we can just all agree they're a a team of cracked players who are very fun and heart attack inducing to watch (trolling optional)
During lockin prx was ass, and that was before something came in - forsaken was still the primary duelist. During Tokyo prx was playing with a sub and fnatic wiped the floor with them. If something could make it to Tokyo it could have been a different story, but when fnatic peaked prx wasn't in a state to hold a candle to them, so it would be natural that nobody would compare them during that time.
People were saying if texture was APAC aspas after he broke bo5 kill record, then we got this match up. Gonna be banger
I don't want to have hope anymore...just gonna enjoy their W gaming regardless of result
It sucks, but what can we do? The other explanation is the teams that got eliminated shouldn't have lost their games - drx choked a 7-0 lead on Sunset, who can they blame for that besides themselves? As much as t1 look so horrible today (whiffing all their shots and looking braindead), PRX looked the same when they faced TS. It just feels like shit they decided to lose the 2 most important games instead of during group stage.
Talon because talon looks fun, t1 and drx looks more standard and shaky (t1 kinda overcooked with the comps today)
Both teams look cracked in their own region, excited to see their rematch again if it happens
the rematch for the players from reykjavik 2022
The only time they look frustrated is in a GF BO5....
Just watch their games vs drx and vs t1 in playoffs, should be a good way to gauge for yourself
Gonna run phoenix on every map like qck except it will work for him (if raze nerfs are true and copium)
Now idk what's last grip about, but the team said Jinggg wasn't getting enough support as entry (for lotus iirc after they got shut down by TS) so forsaken swapped from kayo to breach.
As for Lotus...man probably didn't want to just sit in a corner with his camera out
That's why PRX choked last year (copium) they know the curse...
No worries I've been feeling bad for myself since Copenhagen 2022
Not the biggest frauds but the biggest chokers
Nah 0-2 in records for all the games is just brutal man, hopefully T1 really shows up. Sayaplayer hasn't gotten his revenge since The Guard days
Nah deryeon deserves to be on the team, his initiator looks weak now but he's a decent player. As much as a PRX fan, Benkai didn't look like he was hitting his shots this year.
On some copium but Masters Tokyo smth wasn't there, and at Madrid Jinggg wasn't there. PRX is the best team in Pacific...with a 3rd place without something against Prime Fnatic, and 2nd place when there was prime EG :')
Uncle David wants to go fishing real bad.
After you win this, you will go to upper finals. Even if you lose that, you will drop to lower finals. With 3 teams going, they are winner of grand final, loser of grand final (winner of lower finals), and loser of lower finals
Let's see if your streak continues
It just keeps getting worse, off season was so long, then now they are cramming everything together with some group format that can be unfair for teams
Nahhh I just finally got off work and the first map ended 13-0???
Prx enemy is themselves fr
No lower bracket for today's games though, losers are out for masters Shanghai already. That's why it's a tough format
Talon looked really very good, fingers crossed PRX can win, but looks like it's gonna be tough if everyone in Talon land their shots like what they did against TS
PRX likes to create yearly chads (optional), same thing happened with CGRS last year.
Benkai and PRX are outliers, can't really use them as examples because they just do different stuff and it works
Platchat curse might strike....
Surf looked great in his games ngl
He's been really away from PRX for quite some time, and now that he's coming back, he needs to gel with the team just as PRX is changing up their comps. Something has been playing a lot more Gekko than Reyna, which I think would put more pressure on him as the primary duelist now.
What you say in the second paragraph makes sense, but it's not a meta issue, it's role or agent issues, at least for yay and demon1. At the same time, it's also many other things, such as team synergy and how prepared the team is when dealing with executes as a whole. You can be an awesome raze but if your team doesn't set you up to entry and you just go in alone you're just gonna die without getting traded.
PRX (my flair I know) just went ahead and play reyna and harbour on bind/ascent, those obviously aren't meta comps but they made those work last year. Zeta decided to pick up chamber for LCQ last year and Laz's chamber helped them go on a run to play in champs.
One way is like what you said, change roles to support your teammate, OR let the star players play a comfortable role/agent and let the team play around them. Yay could let Deryeon play Raze, but he was horrid as a flex player in kick off, he looked very lost when he was on skye and viper (when Deryeon was on duelist). Now that he is back on duelist, at least he's definitely more comfortable, even if he's not performing (he did get 2 aces on split 1 though)
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