2 map differential, not 8 round diff.

I think Valorant dev team are the only balance team in the world that would make a nerf on a agent, even player that don't play the agent would hate T.T

I really like Fracture, I would love it to come back, but to be fair, Pearl didn't stay long in the mapool, it's probably the map that gonna get back, if Riot favor the favorite map instead of the most recent one, it will be Haven. As sad as I think, I don't think Fracture will come back next mouth.

I would really want to know if Fracture will be played without a vision if the map come back, because this kinda disappear recently.

I don't think Clove will be balanced, but maybe mapool chage will favor Clove if they rotate out some wide maps

More map arent popular, sooner they rotate out, Ascent is still here Haven was last to rotate out, Icebox and breeze get rotate out really early compared to their release date, Pearl was flawed and get rotate out early.

How so ? Clove potentiallly... But Iso ?!

Hmmm it may be because of the mapool but right now he is kinda the best vision of the agent to me :/

Can't wait to see that new map

Wait thats 8 maps XD

But the map wasn't as popular as lotus

How Lotus could go out so soon ? It's one of the most popular map, and one of the 2 last that was release. I don't get how with the lore update you arrive at this conclusion.

I'm kinda agreed for Ascent and Breeze, to me they seem like the 2 front-runners.

The only way to be sure if he his performing poorly is part of because of is environment or because himself, Potter would at least make us know the truth about him.

He would probably not be that expansive, so it's affordable for EG, it may be a win-win situation.

If the problem is only money I think they can find some solution :

• closing Italia, Portugal,
• Fuze Indonesia and MYSG that struggle a lot, (Beside BME, BLD, DSG and AE, it's a desert, a fusion where thoose 4 structure would be together would be sane for the region, plus it would be easier to create a team if you can take player from this 3 country like PRX did)
• Solve the question of "Wheres does Laos, Cambodia and Myanmar player can have a residency", by reunite TH and VN doing a "Mainland Southeast Asia region"
• Not doing a LAN for Europe since we are close enouth from each other
• Organize this tournament in Japan because they might have enough crowd to not loose that mush money
• For Americas : No choice, it has to be a LAN. It would be fair to organize it in Brazil since they lose a lot from the fusion with NA, plus maybe Brazilian fan can be enough to not lose that mush money.

After T2 Split, it should have a mini tournament with every team that won a T2 Split 1, the winner (And potentially the 2nd) would be directly qualified to the real Ascension tournament.
(And only winner of Split 2 should qualify in ascention, I really hate point system, it's weird to win split 2 in some region and still not qualify, some region found a good compromise by doing a mini-toornament with the top 4 point team, but it deflates Split 2 stakes :/)

Hard nerfing Viper 1 mouth before making out her two best map would be absolutely wild, makes no sense at all, but it's not impossible XD

Why do you think they didn't ? They have also another tournament to prepare :/

Maybe, maybe not, my point here isnt "The best team didn't qualified", but more "This team deserved to participate to promotion"

That the problem of having 7 bracket in NAE, a busy team like SR didn't have time to farm the point and are not qualified even if they won bracket.

Every team that win a bracket in contenders should have been qualified to promo. I really hope Invite tier will solve that problem.

https://x.com/VALORANTLeaksEN/status/1785747301887013298

• New Map
• New Map Rotation
• Duelists Changes
• June 9

5 week waiting will be long but finally some new map, thanks Riot.

Now they are many question we need an answer :

• Will the new rotation will be available for stage 2 ? (Please yes)
• What are the 2 map that rotate out (Might be 1 or 3, but usually it's only 2) ?
• What map will rotate in ?
• Will it be release the 11th ?

Vlr nation, what is your though on those questions ?

What ? No why ? I'm more on Astra and Jett this act

I think if Viper got killed, we will go back to the double initiator meta we had for almost 3 years :/

What if your duelist don't entry on your smokes ?

I'm not sure losing the versatility in your duo, is worth the marginal gain picking double controller instead of something else. (Especially if you have to sacrifice your info initiator)

I'm sad they are no ares in it, maybe that because of unluck but everytime a good battlepass is release ares seem to not be a part of it :/
But except that it's an ok battlepass (Sometime I think the best battlepass where the first one, with Tronlike skins)

She is OP on 2 maps out of the 10 maps (Because those maps are bad and need a rework, Viper is a symptom of this), and unplayable on every other because she need another controller to be usefull, and you won't have 2 controllers in your ranked game. (If you have 1 controller, it's already a miracle)

Thats everytime the problem with agent's balance team. They don't target the rank where they need a nerf. They balance for the proplay by doing nerf that will affect soloQ but may not affect proplay, I can't believe how dumb this is.

The worst example of that was then infamous 5.07 patchnote. We were in a situation where initiator flasher were unplayable in soloQ, and strong as fuck in proplay, while it was the contrary for duelflash... And what they did ? They gave "More identity" to agent by nerfing the possibility for an initiator to pick on their own flash making them even more impossible to play in soloQ, while they up duelflash making them event stronger in soloQ...
The solution would have been "Make every flash equal" or "nerfing initiator in pro only, and uping duelist in pro only" so no flasher is unplayable in ranked or in proplay and vice versa, but they made the oposite.

"IT BASICALLY KILLS VIPER AS A SOLO CONTROLLER ON MOST MAPS, while not really affecting her ability to work as a secondary controller"

If that is true that mean even more double controller on the game. But the change has been made to nerf double controller. Pretty ironic.
That remind me when Raze nerf as almost killed Neon on Fracture

The funniest thing would be to do the opposite 2023 run :

• Win every game of stage 1 regular
• Loose every playoff game
• Win every game of stage 2 regular
• Still loosing playoffs
• Still qualify threw the point system with 12 points
• Win every group stage game
• Loose every playoff game

It should have change.
Mapool was changing every 4 mounth, and on the worst mapool ever... nope : It's 6 month.
The next rotation will probably be in 2 months, it may or may not be available for next champions.

Reveal content 1 mouth before it release ? Riot never do that... we are lucky if they make announce 2 week before. But that not unpossible, especially if they release the map midact (And make the 2 weeks of the soloNewMapQueue during the 2 last week of act instead of during the 2 first week of a new act)

Maybe thats the reason they are a teaser for a new map in this battlepass, they want to release the map midact, but I start having some doubt :/

It's been 8 mouth, but it won't be release tomorrow, it will be release in 2 months

This impression is because it get release riiiight after Shanghai and we had 5 mouth with nothing, so it's recent.

No change and that make me mad...
Especially after teasing a new map in the battlepass.
10 FUCKING mouth, without a new map... How that's possible Riot ?! 6 month on the worst mapool ever if we used to stay 4 months on the same mapool ?

Considering the timing it makes no sense at all, they could have released the map now, pro would have 6 week to train it on stage 2, and it wouldn't be that weird to have pro. Now... When are they gonna release it ? If they release it next act, in July, that would mean pro will probably have to play the same mapool on stage 2 and even on champions (changing right before champ would be dum) on the same horrible mapool, it will be the first time in Valorant history that we keep the same mapool during a full VCT season... ON THE WORST MAPOOL

I hope they release it midact like Clove, but I really don't believe it might happen.

I can't wait S4 this season is exausting by some weird choice (At least this year we have suspens)

You don't get point for regular saison, you gain point for seed #4 at champ

I agree it's not THAT bad that people think, the format got really some great idea, the Stage 1 / Stage 2 was a really elegant solution for make a single round robin and a master in the middle, every game in stage 1 count for the whole year and thats really nice, (Compared to LoL where the spring doesnt count that mush), and the fact stage 2 is a full round-robin is totally fair.

But format has some problem that Riot can solve next year, the fact it's possible to not go to to master after doing 5-1 is a problem, sure other team performed better, but a distant fight is less entertaining, and less fair than a direct fight, maybe your only loss was just be for calendar reason (you get beaten by a team that was trash early in the tournament but litterally explodes at the end, and sadly you played them last), but that could be easily solve by starting with intra group first. Kickoff format was also a huge joke.

By dream format for the future would be :

• 16 teams
• Kickoff easy to do with 16 teams : It could be either doble elim bracket or swiss round, where the team that win 4 games in a row got to master, while the 4 team that end in 3-1 go in a bracket.
• Stage 1 with 2 group of 8 intra group, so basically the same format than 2022 Split 1 and 2
• Stage 2 complete the round-robin
• 2 last non franchised team get relegated (Or have to participate in a playoff tournament)

With that kind of format, you can even consider relegate non-franchised team at the end of every T2 tournament

Can Kru make the reverse scenario of last year ? Not loosing a single game in regular season, then loose every single game in playoffs, But still qualify to champions because of point and winning it ?

It is, and that's may mean how bad NA team are good to detect promising rookie :/

Sorry bro I prefer intraword than crossword It's more balanced for the state of words

Can we please just take in account the card are reshuffled in almost every region, and it's nearly impossible to know who is the best team or region right now ? We can bark on every team or region right now, but the true it's for... Maybe the first time in Valorant history, they are something like... 20 teams that can win Champion. EMEA got fucking 9 teams with 1 win gap, Am is also really stacked especially alpha, and top 3 in omega may be strong when they play intragroup, and APAC got at least 3 teams that are consistent and that was in the past not that far winning an international event, even China, they still look shaky but on LoL they progressed really fast (But I think it's too early for this year... Except if everyone is washed, as a lot of people seems to think). Can we please enjoy that and just admit we know nothing, being excited about every event and game making us mush closer from the truth.

This year is already amazing, please enjoy it.

In that case he have to pick him, you cant not pick an agent just because your star player is afraid to play his main. Now it make start to feel he is as dumb as me not playing my favorite agent (Viper) because I'm afraid to loose with her and not keeping my positive ratio on her in normal game (I don't do ranked)

If that's true what he need now is a mental coach, he cant perform with that low esteem of himself

Really ? Thats kinda interesting, why ?

• Be Yay
• Being best Chamber ever
• Not being allowed to play Chamber on your own map (Or not wanting to)
• See opponent pick Chamber
• Loose your own map against opponent with Chamber
• Win their map where none has peak Chamber
• Decider map, you aren't still allowed to pick Chamber (Or not wanting to)
• They peak Chamber
• They steamroll you

If they really loose Lotus, this guy has all the right in the world to do the biggest mental breakdown in the world...

Erratum on the fact he might be the reason why Chamber isnt picked

What is fun is that even if they win everything now, 4-1 might not be enough to qualify in playoffs, :/

Please Riot, start with intra group next year to solve that kind of problem

What would be the funniest ? GenG breaking Apac curse in Shanghai in front of mad Chinese that had censor them, or China winning in Shangai (And winning a trophy before Apac) ?

It's a de facto state, but even Taiwan government doesn't consider themself as independent state (They just consider they own all mainland China IIRC)

I love the slot repartition, and I really love how almost every 4 major league have the same amount of people in it :

• Americas : 1M0
• China : 1M4
• APAC : 0M9 (Without South Asia that has no PC culture Yet, and no player in the T1 except 1)
• EMEA : 0M9 (Without Middle East and Africa that has no PC culture Yet, and no player in the T1)

Every region should have roughly the same size and every region should have the same number of slot regardless of their performance (If not that will create a snowball effect, best region will have more international experience and become stronger, and we all love the fact that every region can win Valo)

Maybe one day Africa, Middle-East, South Asia will have a sufficient PC culture to become a T1 region on their own (And this day I hope they will have the same amount of spot of the other T1 region despite being trash for the moment), but while that's not the case, the distribution is perfect. Maybe in 50 years when population of Asean will boom and China-Korea-Japan will demographically collapse, we will have to redraw Asian border and have and move China, Korea and Japan team in the same region (East Asia, as in GC), and letting more spot to Asean, but for the moment this is perfect as it is.

"According to a researche [sic] at Cambridge University, it doesn't matter in what order the letters in a word are, the only importent [sic] thing is that the first and last letter be at the right place. The rest can be a total mess and you can still read it without problem. This is because the human mind does not read every letter by itself but the word as a whole."

That's probably why you though intragroup before crossgroup, because that would have to make sense, and your brain has reorder the schedule to have the schedule make sense. :C

2 group.

• Stage 1 you play other group --> Top 1 got to double elim playoff, #2 and #3 play one game to go to double elim playoff (They are basically in a playin).
• Stage 2, you play your group --> Every win in Stage 1 count --> Top #1 from each group go to playoffs in double elim, 4 best team that isn't top 1 of group go playin and need to win 1 game to qualify to playoff.

I really like the idea to have a playoff in the middle of single round robin to go to MidMasters. But I really don't understand why start with crossgroup BEFORE intragroup, it would make so mush sense to do the countrary. Imagine if every Alpha team endup in 6-0 ? Does that mean you can not be qualified even if you end up being 6-0 ?

The format would be so neat and make so mush more sense if we start with intragroup before crossgroup, that would mean team that compete for the same spot splays against each other adding more stakes to one game. Pllus with intragroup frist we are sure we have a fair rank inside the group where team got some loose before getting eliminated.

Really I really see no reason why doing crossgroup before intragroup, do you guys have an idea why ?

Yup the main shaky point is the transition between 2022 and 2023 that make region predictable or unpredictable, in 2024 even if they have a huge turnover in 2024 for Gen, it's still the same structure, so we already know in 2023 that the structure wasnt a bad structure and if they try to upgrade the roster we can trust.

It's a little bit the hammer theory, if you have a hammer and change the sleeve it's still the same hammer, and if you change the stone the next year it's still the same hammer even if they are nothing in common with the hammer you had at the beggening of the year, if you keep the roster but change the structure it's still the same continuity so we are able to predict, if next year you keep the structure but change big part of the roster it's still somewhat predictable.

Because that the same team since 2021 :
PRX --> PRX
Secret --> Bren
Talon --> X10/Xerxia
DRX --> Vision Striker
Zeta --> Zeta

Gen.G --> More or less O2S
RRQ --> Mix BOOM/ONIC
T1 --> New
Global --> New
DFM --> New (But now CR whish is historically one of the 2 best JP team)
Bleed --> Kinda reshuffle but still same org

So it's easier to predict than in EU where they are a lot of change every year.

I fear that if the name of this thread are right, it's gonna be 3 FNC win X.X
But your enthusiasm is still a good thing, I suppose. I believe next year will be better with 2 year for stabilization after the great shuffle.