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Americas VS EMEA truth

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#1
number2_cNed_fan

I know title says truth but how else you gonna get clicks?
This is my humble opinion

Americas has more individual talent scatter across teams while EMEA has less individual talent that is focused on a few "superteams"

So imo:
AMERICAS LEAGUE > EMEA LEAGUE
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The EMEA superteams > AMERICAS superteams

Doesnt matter if ur a "3 team region" if those 3 teams can win against AMERICAS.

In conclusion, I enjoy watching the Americas league because more competition, but EMEA top teams are (probably) better than americas top teams.

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TLDR: Americas has better internal competition while EMEA has more title contenders.

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number2_cNed_fan
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I tried to speak my truth without offending anyone

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geospliced
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I appreciate that. It's a big Valorant world with many different opinions/perspectives and I highly respect your efforts to keep it gucci.

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cartixuzi
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why are you making it sound like there's other superteams that are good in EMEA besides FNC lol, surely we don't think VIT clear NRG/LEV/SEN/LOUD right

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number2_cNed_fan
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We havent seen much of VIT, FUT, and NaVi with Ardiss.
Thats mostly why i put probably. They have shown talent in the off season.
And, other than SEN, none of the Americas "superteams" played in the off season so we don't know how good they are...

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cartixuzi
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praying for your recovery 💔💔💔

#6
number2_cNed_fan
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Only matches will tell...

#7
ionlyHave1Zuni
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Emea has no superteams tho?

Navi has retardiis
Fnatic has toaster and d0rke

Shit i dont even know any other emea teams

#22
xSlqme
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toaster and d0rke have more trophies than brazil buddy

#28
ionlyHave1Zuni
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? They have 1 trophy and even then i dont like to count it due to the name of the event being "flukyo"

#37
GhostKing44
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how is it flukyo? the top team there performed mostly the same in champs, no one's form deviated too much bar nrg

#8
Asuna_Yuuki
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Why is EMEA “superteams” plural?

Are u implying that EMEA has more than 1 superteam

And that 1 superteam lost 2x to loud

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number2_cNed_fan
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You are going off 2023 results... Fnatic easily cleared any team other than LOUD, and LOUD just lost their star duelist. Its going to take them some time, if ever, to get back to their form.

And for multiple, i realize superteams may be the wrong term. I meant to say teams with good potential.
Emea has
FNC
FUT
VIT
NaVi with Ardiss

And if we are going with the FNC superteam definition, AMERICAS doesnt have any...

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Asuna_Yuuki
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NRG and LEV are superteams

What is your definition of “superteam”

Also EMEA besides FNATIC won ONE game vs AMERICAS last year(not counting LOCK IN)

ONE GAME

LET THAT SINK IN

Bias aside EMEA is really a bad region rn

All times besides FNC need to step it up

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number2_cNed_fan
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As i said, superteam is the wrong term for my current situtation and i have misused it.
I would say a superteam is a team that has a good potential to lift a trophy (in this context)
Edit: i agree with Americas having superteams.. but if we go with fnc 2023 superteam definition. Noone was close to them other than loud.

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number2_cNed_fan
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Not counting lock is not a valid way to talk about 2023, and even so, FNC won against EG twice and NRG once in Tokyo
Giants also won against KRU in champs

#20
Asuna_Yuuki
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thats the game Im counting

The guants win vs kru

Thats the only one EMEA won

And the reason LOCK IN doesn’t count is because top teams from some regions got to play the bottom teams of others.

For example, NaVi got to play LEV and KRU

NRG got to play KOI and Giants

In champs and tokyo, the top teams from all regions played each other and Americas came out on top

#43
geospliced
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I'd say Team Liquid is getting overlooked a lot this season no? They've got a young Apeks core that has looked pretty decent!

#48
Asuna_Yuuki
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No firepower sadly

#12
Yessirskiiii
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You new kids on the block are braindead.

Do you realise that my gigabrain is literally oozing with good takes regarding competitive Valorant????

How is Americas "depth" better when they literally have 3 teams capable of challenging for the title.

For EU? NAVI, FNC, TL, FUT, VIT and GX. THAT'S 6 TEAMS YOU DONKEY

AMERICAS??? LOUD, LEV and NRG. That's 3 teams, not 6. Depth where????? 🤡🤡

SEN are solid but they'll never contend

Depth where little man???

#AheadOfTheCurve

#13
number2_cNed_fan
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Americas has better internal competition while EMEA has more title contenders...

#14
Yessirskiiii
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"More internal competition"

EU has more talent, even the Americas fanboys agree with this, anyone who knows an ounce about the scene knows it. EU GMs finally got their shit together and even the teams who are "bad" have good talent to build on.

You're just a robot who goes with the narrative. 80% of the users on this site are Americas bias, and you actually believed their horribly bias takes and made it into your own.

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Asuna_Yuuki
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The only contenders are FNC and maybe NaVi if they can reintegrate ardiis into their system well enough

#16
Yessirskiiii
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VIT are quite literally top 2 itw on paper

#19
Asuna_Yuuki
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On paper?

They are a bunch of tier 2 players

Their strong suit is not their individual talent

#27
Yessirskiiii
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Sayf - Top 10 itw, could argue was top 5
RunneR top 5 duelist off of the eye test
Trexx - S-tier flex
Kicks - A to S-tier ini
Cender - solid
If you're gonna ragebait atleast make it more believable tho than "TiEr 2"

#29
Asuna_Yuuki
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Trexx is good but not S tier

Sayf won’t be as good as last year due to his new role

And the rest are unproven rookies

Don’t act like this team is very insane

#30
Yessirskiiii
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It's not a "new role" you filthy casual. That's his pre TL role

#31
Asuna_Yuuki
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I mean new role compared to last year

And there is a big difference between sayf on sentinel and sayf on duelist

#32
Yessirskiiii
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Look at the casual little rat switch up "B- b- but i meant compared to last year"

Nah, you just didn't know that he actually always wasn't a duelist 🫵😂

#33
Asuna_Yuuki
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Bro of course I knew

I’ve been following VAL since masters 1 2021

I know Sayf has played sentinel mostly on guild

My point is that he wasn’t nearly as good as sentinel as he was on duelist

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funny_prank
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demon1 - Top 5 itw, could argue was top 3
Marved top 5 smokes off of the eye test
Victor - S-tier flex (A tier AT WORST)
crashies - A to S-tier ini
ethan - very good
If you're gonna ragebait atleast make it more believable tho than "ViTaLiTy"

less - Top 5 itw, could argue was top 3
saadhak top 2 igl off of the eye test
cauanzin - S-tier ini
tuyz - A to S-tier smokes
qck - good
If you're gonna ragebait atleast make it more believable tho than "ViTaLiTy"

aspas - Top 5 itw, could argue was top 3
c0m - top 3 sova off of the eye test
kingg - S-tier
mazino - A to S-tier smokes
tex - good
If you're gonna ragebait atleast make it more believable tho than "ViTaLiTy"

zekken - Top 10 itw, could argue was top 8
johnqt - top 5 igl off of the eye test
TenZ- A-tier flex
sacy - A to S-tier init
zellsis - morale
If you're gonna ragebait atleast make it more believable tho than "ViTaLiTy"

#18
number2_cNed_fan
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Gotta do my obligatory job as a FUT and cNed fan.

FUT is actually a good contender, they got top 8 champs last year, this year they have a good chance with 2 direct upgrades to their team.

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Asuna_Yuuki
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They got top 8 but they were not a top 8 team

Results can be deceiving

They beat T1 2x and lost 2-0 in all other games

Dont act like it was a good run

Most teams wouldve qualed in that group

You need context instead of just spouting results

#40
number2_cNed_fan
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Most teams would have qualed in NRGs group but they didnt...

#44
Asuna_Yuuki
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Ok and?

NRG is a completely new team with insane upgrades

Last year is irrelevant

#45
number2_cNed_fan
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So is FUT.

#47
Asuna_Yuuki
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Nah FUT has maintained a mid core while NRG has gotten a team of champions

The only player on FUT who has gotten international success is cned 3 years ago

And also don’t forget the difference between NRG and FUT in Tokyo

NRG was much better than FUT last year

#49
number2_cNed_fan
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NRG was better last year, im just saying FUT also got big upgrades

#23
KyLZi
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I mean Americas is superior, I agree with him, but why are these new EU guys rolling over so easily?

#25
Yessirskiiii
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Soft kids with bellies full of chocolate. This new generation is doomed.

#34
Asuna_Yuuki
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The new generation is submitting to their NA overlords

They have learned who the truly superior region is

#39
Conceit
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Gotta take it down a step
Let's just wait and see

#21
zen-o
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I applaud you for speaking the truth

#26
Asuna_Yuuki
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Not the truth at all

#35
AzShun
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3 teams region? emea have 3 fnatic?

#36
saidtheory
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两个傻逼

#41
cohnr
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I feel like Americas has 2 maybe 3 tiers with NRG/LOUD then the rest and the rest are all at pretty much the same level which is a pretty good level

EMEA has so many different levels compared to Americas, they got FNATIC top, then FUT/VITA/NAVI and maybe GX, then they got a decent mid table, then struggling teams, then teams that just cant win

#46
AR1AN
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Only time prove what region is better
Idc its America or emea
I just want to see good matches

#50
azeijrazjerflazeknrfgfv
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cn0d

#51
Mortadelo
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I feel literally the other way around, or at least the last year was the last was the opposite. FNC can compete with Americas superteams but they have more of them. Meanwhile the body of the league is more competitive in EMEA, our 4th and 5th seeds did really well at champs much better than americas 4th. That being said comparing last years KC to MIBR is pointless anyway

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