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#1
HuntersFury

Championship poinst-
https://prnt.sc/q5cHDcp89Lvx

100T has already overtaken SEN with one less match played in the regular season group stage. Only the top #1 team qualifies through Champ points.
Also, don't forget yall gotta play a super superteam NRG now, upward looking C9, 2nd best in the region G2, Group stage demons KRU next split.
It's not lookin good bruv 😭

#2
oiiink
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L format

#4
smthlikeyou11
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everyone has the same format btw

#7
oiiink
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Kickoff win + Madrid win = Less points than split win

#18
smthlikeyou11
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then just win ur splits
surely if u can win madrid u win splits no?

#12
HuntersFury
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It is. Imagine going through a cut throat kickoff format, go to intl. win the whole thing and then another team just makes regular season playoffs by winning the same amount of games as you and overtakes you just by winning the playoffs? That's tragic LMAO

#17
BathW0ter
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Acc to them Kickoff was just pre season and hence not as important sadly

#37
Brimstan
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maybe don't not qualify to playoffs next time

#15
Saiki_taha
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that format got u to madrid

#3
dort
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sen fanboys thought they were guaranteed champs over winning mickey mouse LAN 😂😂

#8
EnterKey
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Nrg looking bleak tho

#20
babi
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At least we still have a shot, where is NRG?

#24
nobody___100
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where's nrg at buddy? 5 champions and looking to drop 2 of them.

#25
dort
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they're dropping champions for more champions, dont see an issue there

#5
Notbaka
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how did 100t overtake sen ? sen won kickoff and madrid right?

#9
Obelisk
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i think they get points for playoffs if you win

#13
okayso
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you get +1 for every win in Split 1 and +3 for winning today

#16
Klaw69
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3 points in group stage, knockout + upper-semifinal + upper final = 3 points, gf win = 1 point + additional 3 points for winners

#28
Notbaka
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damn sen did all the hardwork to win stuff just for 100t to overtake them in champ points

#35
ozaee
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not really, the split is designed to give more champship points, if sen got a point for every win they got, they would by far have the most points

#32
Ballsamolee
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playoffs give points?

#45
aford277
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Yeah its weird. You get one point for every win you get + 3 if you're the winner. So 100 thieves got 4 today alone by winning grand finals. I just don't get why they didn't give points for winning matches in kick off

#6
Obelisk
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we just got to give the best performance we can if we lose all good

#10
Alar
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100T only got 6 while Sen got 9, right? I thought you only get 3 extra points for winning playoffs in your own region and you get one per win during each Split.

#11
BathW0ter
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Its okay man. If SEN play like the madlads they are, split 2 will be enough without the need for champs points. Also, I really hope Kaplan, Drew and John can take the time to rest and then study Shanghai teams since a lot of them might be repeated for champs

#36
HuntersFury
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SEN win condition is mostly 2 guys. tenz and zekken. That was the case in kickoff and madrid as well. JohnQT is the IGL and the lurker so you can't ask him to perform on a high level consistently. Zellsis is a true support player on and off the server. So, sacy has to step up like Leo, eeiu, davai etc but I don't think he can tbh. He hasn't been doing it for a year and a half. look at any other top team and they have literally 4-5 match winners.

#14
Paraplant
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people acting like both sen or 100t aren't qualifying through playoffs

#26
mommymiIk
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Neither of them are guaranteed playoffs. SEN is in the hardest group so anything can happen

#33
HuntersFury
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How are you so sure? YES they get to cook up some shit for split but so does everyone else and they get LAN exp. SEN has many other issues than just having tactical flaws. Unless you have glaring problems in your roster you should at least make playoffs off of a fresh masters win.

#34
Paraplant
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even if sen doesn't get top 3, 100t also need to flop for their points to matter

#42
ParodyAccount
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There's other teams that can surpass SEN in points that also won't get top 3

#47
Paraplant
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the thread is about 100t and sen

#48
ParodyAccount
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ok but when it comes to making champs there's other teams to consider. The OP also mentions other teams so the thread doesn't just have to be about sen and 100t

#19
BulkyLettuce
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what happens if 100t qualify without the points system?

#21
BathW0ter
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After the 3 regular season qualifiers, the team with most points qualifies as the 4th

#22
AstroGalaxy
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this format is dogshit tbh

#30
HuntersFury
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SEN got lucky that they at least got the max 6 points possible. Loud got fucked over even harder.

#23
kfox
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Wtf is this horrible format. No way we're making international lans less important than regionals. Get rid of kickoff. Absolute waste of time

#27
HuntersFury
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Also, 100T gets to play against a shittier Loud and they will farm the BR teams. 3 points guaranteed almost.

#29
ParodyAccount
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I've been saying it ever since they had a 6 points lead and I'll say it again, SEN's spot in champs was NOWHERE NEAR guaranteed. I shouldn't have to explain why.

#31
kamui2041
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If we think about it tho 100t will be going against Lev, Loud(With a subbed less), EG(idk jawg could do sumn, but im taking 100t), mibr + fur(:skull, but maybe xand and pancada save furia who knows), and that leaves them with a min record of 3-7 max record of 8-2.

Sentinels goes against Kru(i think kru have been kind of exposed these last few series and is a very doable matchup), Sen v C9(yeah c9 can always have Oxy9 go crazy, so idk), G2(look good, but also dependent on icy going crazy(while valyn does do great, i think icy really needs to perform to consistently look great on their attack halves), NRG(truly mid after what we have seen), So min record of 3-7 or 7-3.

Now, I think why 100t looks so good is because of their strats and some individual talents. Whether its cryo popping off, asuna or bang. They all seem to have great talent. On top of that, their best map bind seems some what unpenetrable when it comes to their defensive half. But it has shown holes.

TLDR: Sen has a chance, but its reliant on relying on new comps, strats, and better anti-strating coming into this part of the season. Its unfortunate only G2 is coming from this side of the bracket, but sen has a chance depending on how they develop.

A suggestion I think might be useful is starting to use double duelist or 0 duelist comps on some maps. The main reasoning why TenZ was taken off that duelist position was because of his decision making was too rash and he was pressured to be primary entry. With his time as flex and now, zekken flourishing, tenz could take that jett or yoru spot on some maps, allowing zekken to do what he does best on raze. Also, zekken started his career as an igl and flex player. We have seen many comps in other regions with no duelists, zekken has experience playing agents such as sova and others. We could definitely see some interesting plays come out of sen, since their roster is really flexible when there is more though to it. Will see how life pans out though.

#39
idaVAL
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I think they have the best shot for being the most prepared team for champs. They have the talent and the confidence after madrid, they need a break and shake things up while adapting to the new meta after viper nerfs. I really do think that sen fans have nothing to worry about.

#41
HuntersFury
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talent? On per they don't even have a top 5 roster in AMER. They lack firepower heavy. Most teams have 5 match winners, SEN barely has 3.

#44
idaVAL
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Yes you could make a case for firepower lacking but not talent. All of them are capable of being the best in their role. Zellsis might not be able to frag consistently but he is a second caller on that team. Sacy support util is insane and johns calls were immaculate before teams learned about everything sen does.

#46
HuntersFury
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Sacy support util is insane

bruh! stop saying that. His champs are made for support. Everyone is making this same bullcrap argument about him. Leo, trent, eeiu, d4vai, riens, which one of these don't have good support util? and they are insane at the game too with better APR. The role is literally the 2nd most impactful in the game in terms of support and frag, just having good util is not good enough.

#40
HuntersFury
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Yeah but that's group stage. 100T could still lose in playoffs and not make it through normal route.

#38
sussybaka
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Yeah, it looks like 100t definitely will qualify through this point system. I can't see the others overtake them if they continue perform like that.

#43
spectre300
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SEN are qualifying for Champs mark my words

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