Yeah imagine all you want, they need a culture shift, and I haven't seen anything indicating that they'll have one

This one kinda breaks Optic's momentum ngl. I think the guard can close this out.

Dw abt it what happens, happens

I mean Tenz plays insane once in a blue moon but Shaz is much more consistent. I actually really like his Sova util too, his shocks are usually really good. At the same time, Sen is just in such a rutt that I find hard to believe they'll make it to internationals ever again with this roster.

No World of Tanks Blitz is

Shaz is better than FNS mechanically but a much worse IGL

Did you see his clutch against V1 tho?

Yes

LMFAOOO SPYDER OFC

Where'd all those people go lmfao. Making decisions on a team after a single 9-3 half; a true VLR try not to overreact challenge.

Vs V1 was literally the only time he showed life in 2022. He just needs to work with a psychologist and get his anxiety and feelings of pressure under control.

He's fucking carrying them. LAN exp coming in CLUTCH rn

That's cap; this is one game. Look up some of his other clutches and you'll see he's not all spray transfer

I want to see TGRD vs DRX

Uh imma have to disagree with this. Even at Champs, Nats went stupid, and in playoffs he was still really good.

I think that's a joke because Maxim made the call to force against C9 on fracture. Maybe it's true tho, I'm not sure. At the same time, yeah he's a great aimer and a really good player. Marved is also incredible ofc, I'm just throwing out names who could compete. Skuba was pretty fantastic as well.

Damn Calypso did your second second acc get banned

Bruh did you not watch the same game I did? Xerxia were undeniably better than optic in the first game, but in the second one, Optic demolished them (13-9 and 13-6). The main difference was a mental shift plus Victor actually performing. I believe in Xerxia tho and I'm sure they'll be back better than ever.

Not quite as good individually as M3C rn I don't think, but they will be in time.

antisemite

nt. 1/8. Everyone who watched the map knew that optic played better then, although Xerxia are fantastic and I love them.

Ok you're gonna get flamed for this but I kinda get that. At the same time his fragging is fucking INSANE, and he does get a ton of opening pics (albit more on defense I think).

Idk who you've seen going on abt how they're gonna trash everyone immediately. I think most guard fans expected them to struggle at first on LAN but I think there's a very real chance that they make a deep run and possibly win it all afterwards. They're not out of the running!

I had them in uppers until they lose to G2 then they come back and beat Loud + G2 again to win the whole thing. Maybe it's my copium but I have faith that they'll be a great team internationally, if not at this event, than in the future.

It would ruin my pickems because I had them doing that in the upper bracket but yes I could totally see this. Even when they lose they always come back stronger.

Zander?

They really aren't LMFAO. Guard are just a little inexperienced. You can see that the most with Trent imo, who wasn't performing nearly as well as he usually does.

Derke?????

Like I said I think the only teams that they could not defeat at first would be Xerxia, DRX, and Liquid. And if they faced any of those at first, they'd win in lowers because they always come back better.

Despicable

As an overall player yeah, considering he IGLs and all. As a duelist, Yay is better. Only person who stands up to him as a pure duelist is Derke atm.

Watch to the end of this match then make your opinions. Besides didn't Zeta get PUMMELED in their first game and still make it?? TGRD could absolutely have done it too.

Bro exactly. They had ONE bad half. Now they're 9-6 with optic on an eco. This is definitely possible.

Imma be honest, XSet is never making it to LAN in their current state. Not with TGRD, Optic, C9, and V1 also being in contestion. I think Cryo would need to be on another team in order to make it, but he's cracked and totally deserving of it.

Yes I genuinely think they do. I think the only teams that they could not defeat at first would be Xerxia, DRX, and maybe Liquid. And I think on a rematch they win all three of those.

No way lmao

9/3 comeback pls lets go

You haven't watched a single one of their playoff matches huh

Bro they're all super young and don't have much exp on LAN. Besides we've seen them lose the first match a bunch and then just come back better.

This is not how they usually play. Usually it's much more tactical and set up, but optic are just crushing them atm.

Do not care, guard vs optic happening rn and yay is going fucking stupid

Literally best jett/chamber in NA rn. Maybe Cryo could be as good in the future but yay is the now.

AND AGAIN

Jesus fuck optic coming out with 3-0, that's really important. Their mental is their biggest weakness and if they get off to a good start, I'm scared for TGRD.

HOLY FUCK YAY

A fantastic rematch, all on LAN, with sideshow and bren casting. I'm hyped.

Tbf there's a lower bracket

In NA, achievements do not equal hype. Look at TSM lmfao.

If they change their mental and work ethic sure

I hope so!