m80 isn't shit, it's just mxm is looking damn impressive

Holy shit they're actually insane

GUARD easiest 2-0 of their lives

it's been one game on haven bro.......... oxg's map pick

DSG lost to TSM blud

bro who cares, MXM is a good team but guess what TSM is beating DSG and then G2 and then beating MXM in the rematch and then they lose to M80/TGRD all good

coping

3 game honeymoon

TSM lower bracket run starts now

TSM 2-0

m80 2-1

TSM 2-1 moist ain't it

bro is carrying way too hard rn

200 W

SOMETHING IS COOKING

This is a pretty bad list

1. GUARD
2. M80
3. TSM
4. G2
5. MXM
6. OXG
7. DSG
8. Faze

No seeds by groups combined

It was seeded by the groups combined, not groups separate

Faze shouldn't be here, the guard 2-0

mxm 2-0

Round 1 Matchups:

1 - M80 vs 8 - DSG
4 - TSM vs 5 - MXM

2 - TGRD vs 7 - FAZE
3 - G2 vs 6 - OXG

Seeding is combined not by group

1 - M80 vs 8. DSG
2 - TGRD vs 7. FAZE

Easily M80 and Guard take this

this is like one of the best series ever

they're terrible at closing out maps, they've lost 1-2 three times in a row

faze is watching getting multiple heart attacks

Their H2H vs faze and Shopify

Turtles playing for everything here
OXG just playing for seeding

ty so much

can you send the rulebook

i believe GA1 vs GB4, GA2 vs GB3, GA3 vs GB2, GA4 vs GB1
basically whoever isn't the first seed of group A is literally gonna die against M80/TSM/TGRD

actually it's the top 8 teams in the split standings that qualified to MSI - 1v8, 2v7, 3v6, 4v5
so basically M80 vs any 2-3 team (DSG/OXG or TTR), TGRD vs any 2-3 team(DSG/FAZE/OXG or TTR), TSM/G2(4-1) vs any 3-2 team (G2(only if G2 loses)/MXM/OXG or TTR), TSM(4-1) or any 3-2 team from Group A (MXM/OXG or TTR) vs any 3-2 team from Group A (MXM/OXG or TTR)

eh mad lions would do way better in group A compared to tsm/m80/tgrd group b

The winner of this match gets 1 more vcl point

tsm is better

9z - all knights looked kinda bad in preseason, and 9z historically decent

For making it into msi its h2h then RD
for standings overall its rd then h2h

that's the whole problem bro - different tiebreakers for each way is so confusing

Split 1 Standings and Circuit points
Round Difference

To get INTO Mid Season Face Off
H2H
then Round Difference

Interesting - https://twitter.com/KnightsArena/status/1636040953059328002

sources from knights discord

NA VCL chose the dumbest ass tiebreaker ever - literally in every other tournament it's the last tiebreaker

tsm is better than faze and dsg

TSM is already a top 3-4 ascension team bro

mods not updating a game lul

2-0 TSM
Ez claps

ur welcome!

Yes

Thanks man

So Group A of NA Challengers is really complicated and I'll sort out records but with the first tiebreaker being round diff and then h2h, stuff get wonky

• for tarik and the others that are insanely confused

G2 is already in.
FAZE, TTR (juicers), MXM (moist), and OXG can clinch with a win - simplest way to MSI (MSFO) - they are all 3-2

2-3 records (4th place) make playoff scenarios:
If Shopify wins:

• The loser of TTR/OXG is eliminated, if MXM loses, they're eliminated
• If Faze loses, Faze needs to have a total round diff of the combined win and loss difference to be 7 or less to make it into playoffs, or else Shopify makes it and Faze is eliminated
  • (ex shopify wins by 4 in the series and faze loses by 2 in the series, faze makes it, if shopify wins by 6 in the series and faze loses by 2 in the series, shopify makes it)

If Shopify loses:

• If OXG and MXM lose, Moist will be in playoffs if Oxygen loses 5 or more rounds in the series than MXM in their match, otherwise if it is less than 5, Oxygen will make it. (MXM has H2H)
• If OXG and Faze lose, Oxygen will be in playoffs if Faze loses 6 or more rounds in the series than OXG in their match, otherwise if it is less than 6, Faze will make it. (OXG has H2H)
• If TTR and MXM lose, Turtle Troops will be in playoffs if MXM loses 1 or more rounds in the series than TTR in their match, otherwise if they lose by the same amount, MXM will make it. (TTR has H2H)
• If TTR and Faze lose, Turtle Troops will be in playoffs if Faze loses more than 12 rounds in the series than TTR in their match, otherwise, if they lose by 12 or less rounds, Faze will make it. (FAZE has H2H)

TL;DR Playoffs Group A clinchers, 2-2 teams just win and you're in, and surprisingly Shopify controls their own destiny for the 2-3 teams

TSM > TGRD

Shopify gonna tragically lose to G2 next week LMAO
Looking as bad as V1's downfall

Well LG's best map was usually fracture