valvenq
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I like this. Considering there's a lot of factors to consider (agent bans, underperformance, roster changes) in KJC, your list is the most accurate I've seen.

Time to make a new regional ranking lol

  1. Singapore / Malaysia
  2. Thailand
  3. Philippines
  4. Indonesia
  5. Vietnam

edit: this was a joke btw

posted about 3 years ago

NA LCQ favorites are literally between 3 teams: 100T, XSET and C9B. C9B is the underdog winner of the three, so hopium or not they got a chance like any other team in the LCQ.

posted about 3 years ago

TS is trying new strats, not saving them. The meta will change two months from now, which will be champions time by then.

edit: them underperforming also adds to the equation.

posted about 3 years ago

what war lmfao. this is actually a reasonable take.

posted about 3 years ago

agent ban only works when there is a large agent pool. KJC is a nice experiment, but following Leagues footsteps will take some time.

posted about 3 years ago

forgot about them, will put them at s++

posted about 3 years ago

Thanks! My tierlist isn't that comprehensive as teams vary at certain maps and agents, but I will definitely use your suggestions.

posted about 3 years ago

This would be my list and is more accurate before KJC Invitational. Just like in any sport, the competitive scene changes and teams adapt. Rankings aren't static. The reasoning for Team Secret being 5 on my list is obvious due to their performance in KJC Invitational.

posted about 3 years ago

I'll be sure to include them after KJC Invitational ends.

posted about 3 years ago

I need some reasoning for this, but I'll consider changing it. I personally think that Full Sense will underperform, but they are definitely one of the best teams in SEA.

posted about 3 years ago

Team Secret will definitely perform well and have potential to be S+. Right now they're not playing at a level where they should be.

posted about 3 years ago

Updated 2021-10-10

This ranking / tierlist is based on the SEA Valorant scene right now, meaning teams like X10 Esports would be inaccurately included as there is no recent data to support their ranking. Roster changes have also been considered.

Tierlist |

SSS - Paper Rex
S+ - X10 Esports, Bleed eSports, Team Secret
S - Bleed eSports, ONIC G, Full Sense, Boom Esports, Louvre
A+ - Boom Esports, Kingsmen, Zeal Esports
A - Team Big BAAM, Foxy Araikordai, Alter Ego, XcN Gaming, CBT Gaming
B - CERBERUS Esports, Bigetron Astro, Nigma Galaxy, Sharper Esport, Morph Impact, Oasis Gaming
C - Team SMG, EGO, The Infinity Esports, Griffin Esports, Five Ace e-Sports

Ranking |

1 - Paper Rex
-- Gap --
2 - X10 Esports
3 - Team Secret
4 - Bleed eSports
5 - Full Sense
6 - ONIC G
7 - Louvre
8 - Boom Esports
9 - Kingsmen
10 - Zeal Esports
11 - Team Big BAAM
12 - Foxy Araikordai
13 - Alter Ego
14 - XcN Gaming
15 - CBT Gaming
16 - Nigma Galaxy
17 - Oasis Gaming
18 - CERBERUS Esports
19 - Sharper Esport
20 - Bigetron Astro
21 - Morph Impact
22 - The Infinity Esports
23 - Team SMG
24 - EGO
25 - Five Ace e-Sports
26 - Griffin Esports

There is a lot of individual bias in this ranking, so please recommend some changes. If you have any questions for my reasoning, I'll try my best to answer them.

EDIT:

Changes |

  • Moved top 10 rankings around:
    1. Full Sense has been considered as the better team in most cases despite lack of any recent performance.
    2. Team Secret, albeit a subpar performance in KJC, have been moved S+ tier and top 3. Although Team Secret needs to perform, I have to agree with a lot of what TMosura's post had stated.
    3. Team Big BAAM falls out of top 10.
    4. Zeal Esports have been moved up despite a 7th-8th performance in KJC.
    5. Kingsmen replaces Team Big BAAM and moves up. Boom Esports, despite promising roster changes, have been moved down.
    6. Louvre, despite finishing off Team Secret in KJC, remains the same.
    7. Bleed eSports, despite finishing in GF within KJC, have been moved down 1 place, but moved up in the tierlist to S+ with potential.
  • Added A+ tier, to distinctively put teams that are evidently not at yet S tier, but also better than A tier. Moved Boom Esports, Kingsmen and Zeal Esports.
  • Alter Ego and XcN moved up to A.
  • Nigma Galaxy and Sharper Esport moved down to B.
  • Added C tier. Moved Team SMG, EGO, The Infinity Esports, and Griffin Esports.
  • Added CBT Gaming, Bigetron Astro and Five Ace e-Sports (let me know of any other notable teams I should include).
  • Everything below top 10 in the rankings have been shifted to match the tierlist.

Thoughts |

Despite TMosura's suggestion of varying rankings, I think a specific value for 1 team gives us a more clear idea of the scene as a standing. I completely agree with what they say about teams being very close, but for this ranking I want it to be clear for those who aren't following the SEA scene which teams are more distinctively better than another.

I've also added SSS for PRX, whether it is inaccurate or not will depend on LCQ, but I'm 100% certain that they are currently the best team in SEA. After watching their games, and their obvious distinctive playstyle in accordance to the metas, as well as how they adapted perfectly to the KJC agent bans, there's a considerable gap between PRX and other SEA teams. Imagine KRU of SEA, that's how I see it. X10 Esports have yet to prove themselves of this caliber due to no recent performance. I honestly think that Paper Rex would've been a better candidate for Champions than Team Secret, but obviously Team Secret won that challenger playoffs fair and square.

As for top 10, TMosura's analysis of the scene is the most accurate I've seen as of date. SEA's top 10 cannot be ranked perfectly according to a specific ELO, as the variables of maps and agents make certain teams better or worse than others. Despite of performance, team chemistry and other notable factors, my decision on this ranking has been both personal bias and community bias. This is why I ask for suggestions on the ranking, because I know I alone will make human errors despite my analysis of the scene with statistics in mind.

Regardless, as a Canadian viewer following SEA and NA, I certainly think without a doubt of personal feelings, that SEA have the potential to be a top contender in Valorant.

This tierlist is to be updated again once APAC LCQ ends, which will determine a realistic standing for SEA coming into VCT 2022.

Please let me know if there are any other things I should change / include.

posted about 3 years ago

This is gonna be an intense one.

posted about 3 years ago

Subroza and Wardell are also a consideration. Man Canada is stacked.

posted about 3 years ago

Lmfao wtf

posted about 3 years ago

Jammyz is the best F/A on the market rn, hope he gets signed.

posted about 3 years ago

Paper rex

posted about 3 years ago

Team Secret is no.1 imo.

posted about 3 years ago

All those rumours made people fall deep into an echo chamber. Gaslighting 101

posted about 3 years ago

hopium*

posted about 3 years ago

G2 vs SEN at finals rather than groups would've reach 2m+ views easily.

posted about 3 years ago

VS vs Gambit

posted about 3 years ago

ggs, closest 3-0 i've watched other than fnatic vs sen

posted about 3 years ago

what the fuck

posted about 3 years ago

wow how could you predict that your a god

posted about 3 years ago

Would rather see NV vs Gambit then another rematch between 100T and Gambit. Something new would be nice. If it's a stomp then Gambit is the best team in the world.

posted about 3 years ago

Since it's 9-3. 100T had the greatest comebacks in this event, it's more practical for them to perform better under pressure.

EDIT: 11-3 comeback (copium)

posted about 3 years ago

Missing TR, but I think your ranking is pretty solid.

posted about 3 years ago

I don't think a lot of people liked the format tbh, let's hope they do better for champions.

posted about 3 years ago

anything can happen tbh, talk after the game is over

posted about 3 years ago

he lives in africa

posted about 3 years ago

everyone sleeping on this guy. single handedly stopped the unstoppable comeback made by SEN on haven

posted about 3 years ago

should've asked this question before today's matches lol. I think 100T vs Gambit is good as well.

posted about 3 years ago

All very interesting matches. The teams I thought would reach the finals were eliminated. Competitive Valorant is really unpredictable.

posted about 3 years ago

Easily the best in the whole event

posted about 3 years ago

We love to see it

posted about 3 years ago

rip PRX. gl TS!

posted about 3 years ago

I didn't get to see earlier but did you bet anything for today's game?

posted about 3 years ago

VS and NV

posted about 3 years ago

if you're right I'm gonna cry from happiness

posted about 3 years ago

It's not that surprising. He used to be an aggressive player in cs, trying to convert that to valorant is almost instinctual for someone like him.

posted about 3 years ago

cringe

posted about 3 years ago

Saying PRX > Acend is too far-fetched. VS was clearly saving strats against PRX and played phenomenally against Acend. Not trying to discredit PRX tho, from the matches I've saw clearly SEA > BR > JP

posted about 3 years ago

eu "VS" na final

posted about 3 years ago

11-3 comeback, they struggled hard for that win.

posted about 3 years ago

If you haven't noticed yet, all of NA seeds have struggled on Icebox.

posted about 3 years ago

1 - PRX (My sleep schedule was fucked for the entire Berlin qualifiers, so I watched mostly SEA region when it was live. I support NA but at the same time love a good underdog story.)
2 - Envy (Used to tune in yay's stream a lot when he was prominent in cs and now in valorant, and he is a great guy.)
3 - Gambit (Ice cold persona from the russians, as if they have the aura of fearlessness surrounding them.)
4 - VS & 5 - 100T (Methodical gameplay, using abilities to capture objective points which greatly contrasts team like SMB which relies on firepower)
6 - SEN (NA)

posted about 3 years ago

Man you're underrating PRX. There's a reason why it was such a close match, and it's so apparent people underestimate PRX too much.

posted about 3 years ago
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