DRX 2-0

Xerxia 2-1

LOUD 2-0

Optic 2-1

Fire Flux 3-2

spain and france

turkey grand final should be fun also

they would be on same level as paper rex i think

vitality are 100% getting into franchising

northern europe VRL overrated, its got 3 F/A teams

mad lions just improved a lot

1-3 Fnatic, Optic, Loud
4-8 DRX, PRX, FPX, XSET, GUILD
9-12 XIA, NTH, LEV, KRU

ok but it isnt named stage 1, its just 2021

stage 1 is the name for masters 1 and its qualifiers

??? both stage 1 and stage 2 are the same format

otherwise it's not fair for people who compete in regular vct

true and based

definitely not

true but they would sadly still shit on the best mena team

so ur saying they make roster changes too often?

wtf is this "vision" of the team they keep talking about?

first Bonecold left due to it, now zeek

it must be a shit vision if that is true, those were their 2 best players except cned

cold take: 1 of either drx, optic, loud or fpx gets GROUPED

zeek is not a real igl and scream, jamppi are better igls anyway

keznit / xand will be plat chat's top 21 player

fucking bots analysts

L

what are they doing? bad management

you dont think another org like G2 or liquid can just, idk... sign him? fucking retard fake flagger

no way.. HUGE FKING L

DRX vs PRX because everyone seems to think PRX are a tier above and on the same level as optic, loud, fnatic

nvm

ok i can see your points and understand. when i think of mechanics i mainly thinking of combinations of button presses, how fast they can be pressed (yes i did overlooked that with 200-300 BPM) and your coordination with it all. and aim mechanics is self explanatory. timing itself isnt a mechanic but combined with button presses it can be, it is about precision. osu only has 2 buttons so thats why i see it as mainly timing but yes that can be mechanical. glad we came to an agreement.

i mean, do you play it? and whats your rank? the way you talk is like people who say non-pros cant have an opinion on the pro scene

-> claims i am oblivious to other osu mechanics without stating other osu mechanics

Being able to hit 200bpm deathstreams is a mechanical skill, reading AR 11 and low AR EZ-mod maps is a skill. That are things you have to practice to get good at it.

i know you are trying to make it sound complex, but this is literally a timing skill, are you for real rn?

Btw reaching 100k in Gridshot is super easy compared to be able to hit 300bpm deathstreams, your comparison makes you oblivious about other in-game mechanics.

again timing and claiming there are other mechanics without providing any evidence. youre not real

" Timing" is a skill in osu! - It is a lot more than that, it is technique, stamina, reading, aim control and finger control which are all mechanical skill you have to put thousands of hours in to get a good lvl in that game.

bunch of incoherent jargon tbh

i am only saying osu isnt the hardest game mechanically. it is hard absolutely a hard game but not the most mechanical. but you simply dont use your keyboard as much as games like starcraft, fortnite or gunz and it isnt as hard to aim as quake, fortnite, cs. i'll use your own argument against you since you like it so much. youve never played any of these games to a high level

Loud is undisputed 1st

acend is top 5 if cned and zeek gets back into form

i have played it

"being able to tap keys fast and accurate" is literally a timing skill. as for aiming we'll use a benchmark and that will be getting 100k gridshot in aimlab which many people strive for. anyone who gets 100k gridshot has enough aim to do the highest level osu maps, the hardest part for them is the timing. for games that actually require high level aim (not osu), games like quake, cs, fortnite at the highest level, 100k gridshot player will not be able to do that as easily. new records are set in almost every game all the time, dont you know this?..

your comment is a whole lot of incoherent rambling

not even talking about valulrant lol

its not

its 99% about timing tbh, it doesnt require high level aim or keyboard mechanics, u literally only press 2 buttons

quake (aim)
gunz (aim + keyboard)
starcraft (keyboard)

trash

they still on the level of drx imo

if drx fixes their mental and doesnt choke then maybe i would even favor drx over prx

do people seriously think paper rex can win the event over loud, optic, fnatic?

favorites: fnatic, optic, loud
dark horse: fpx, xset, prx, drx
underdogs: guild, xerxxia, nth, nip/levi

cloud

SMB choking?

not disagreeing or agreeing, just saying there are many ways to entertain other than trash talk

what does XSET got against asia? LMFAOOO

i think V1 were on a honeymoon / hotstreak

C9 downfall is understandable because they actually lost a player and coach, they will be back to top team at LCQ instead of losing to tier2 teams

ange1 and trexx can go tho

who who who?

7/8

initiator is basically flex bro

yay and derke are very close, the slightly higher rating and that derke plays raze pushed me to give it to derke but now that i think about it yay was more consistent and won Masters so it could go either way

it is a hot take i agree but it is just my opinion, i value consistency a lot. your opinion is respectable too. as for LANs i feel like we will really start to see difference between online vs lan players with crowd. at the moment players/teams tend to only underperform on their first LAN, after that it if they do underperform it is usually due to other factors rather than the LAN itself

Leo has been consistently a top player in emea and the best on Guild for the longest time and form is only a small factor i thought i would mention it due to everyone in this community being very reactionary

recency bias

Hm, i dont think he is the best on zeta but maybe i did overlook him

dep and laz the 2 best on zeta imo

syouta seems to have insane stats