depends on how it's prepared usually. But yeah chicken is awesome.
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depends on how it's prepared usually. But yeah chicken is awesome.
If only they never picked up babyj and ec1s and went with bang and jcstani or cryo and zander from the beginning.
i guess, i don't know why people should care though. VLR is a site many people use to get stats and results. Pros included.
fr, I saw the roster and was like, "wait a damn second. I kind of like this."
u some narcissist or some shit lamo.
Ad hominem. I think the rest of my brain cells have died.
ur only looking through your pov which also makes sense and mine does too
Yours does not make sense. You still have not provided sufficient support for your claims. Not even a cohesive line of thought. All you do is put words in my mouth and insult me.
You now say my pov makes sense, even though you also said I was being irrational and making decisions purely based on emotion and surprise. You keep contradicting yourself.
both of us dont have sufficent info to reach a plausible conclusion
No. It's just that you didn't spend any time looking for said info. Nadeshot literally posted a video regarding the circumstances. And if you think you don't have sufficient info to reach a plausible conclusion, then why are arguing with me in the first place. Oh wait, it's because you think you have a plausible conclusion and yet you don't have any information. Again, contradicting yourself.
so why do u have to be mad
You literally insulted me and then proceeded to lecture me. And now you're saying you didn't have any information anyways. Someone once said, "condescension from the ignorant is so pathetic." I agree with that wholeheartedly. Now, if you had a genuinely good argument with evidence behind it, then we could have a discussion and maybe you could convince me I'm wrong. But no, you insulted me, lectured me, and did all this without knowing anything in the first place.
chill first and think again whether you can discard my pov i.e taking a gamble and loaning two players in the hope that they can qualify for the main event (the final 2 teams that go to masters 1)
Contradicting yourself. Don't tell me to chill when you aren't chill. You called me a narcissist. I personally don't care what a random person on the internet thinks of me, but obviously, you do, considering you decided to insult me instead of coming up with a coherent response. And the part of your pov that I am discarding is all of your speculation and you defending the argument that replacing two players in the middle of a tournament is going to yield immediate results. To which you still have not attempted to counter nor rebut yet.
because there's is no guarentee they can with this roster, watching from the past two matches and qualifying for the main event would be even harder as only 2 teams can pass through.
Again, you're being hypocritical and backpedaling. You still haven't addressed massive chunks of my argument. There is no guarantee that they can win with any roster. But this roster change that they decided on is not helping their odds. And of course, qualifying is hard, this is the VCT for chrisssakes. If it's not hard what's the point. Go compete in a tier four tourney if you want the easy road. Life is hard, deal with it. All I'm saying is that the way 100T chose to deal with the difficulties was braindead.
i wanna see the synergy thing to know whether it is really worth abandoning your short term goal( masters 1) in the hope that this team can reach heights on later events of valorant this year.
That's called an investment. And you won't see synergy since they threw away half the team in the middle of the competition. If you want to see synergy, watch teams that have good teamwork.
You still haven't even attempted to rebut many of my points. The ones that you tried to counter you also failed miserably at. If all you have is empty insults and obvious fallacies then you're wasting my time. I'm tempted to say try again, but I'm not going to throw away any more time and brain cells on you. Just a tip, if you want someone to be respectful to you, why don't you try being respectful to them first. And if you mean something kindly but it's taken the other way, why not specify how you want it to come across. Instead of seeing an angry response and immediately insulting them.
why are you so pressed about synergy? where did nadeshot point this out?
Nadeshot posted a video talking about why BabyJ and Ec1s were released.
your opinion here is same as the whole community and i meant u and the community. fine now?
No. Now you're committing a strawman fallacy and putting words in my mouth. Stop generalizing and pinning me to your own personal perspective of this community. Also, my opinion is not the same as this whole community, or at least the opinion I was talking about is not the same as the one you are for some reason blaming me for. I have never said BabyJ and Ec1s should be kicked from 100T. So don't lie and say, "your opinion here is the same as the whole community". And don't try to make an excuse and say, "I only meant the part of the opinion where people are mad that BabyJ and Ec1s were kicked", because you emphasized the previous part as well and said them together.
your only defence about them being kicked is your word "synergy" and nothing else. If you see from my way its also logical. and moreover he's the owner of 100t not their coach but this doesnt mean he isnt talking to the coach and all. so share your source.
No, my main argument is about synergy because that is the main reason why Nadeshot said BabyJ and Ec1s were kicked for. Your way isn't logical because it's full of speculation. And of course I know he isn't their coach, that's why is specified the 100T management team. I only talked about Nadeshot because he's the one who posted the video. If you actually read what I wrote then maybe you'd understand that. My source is Nadeshot's video that he posted.
https://twitter.com/Nadeshot/status/1495905902217482240
Now, this further convinces me that you have no clue what you're talking about because if you spent five seconds looking into the situation you would've found Nadeshot's video. This means you obviously didn't do any research and are just declaring your own personal opinion (riddled with fallacies) as a fact.
Edit: Forgot to reply to the other half of your post.
"You're contradicting yourself. What 100T did is exactly what will get them left behind. It's not just hypocrisy at this point, it's just stupidity."
Show this synergy thing and we'll know how big of an importance it is of. thats your only defence against all of this and what im stating is also rational which is taking a gamble and expecting the other players to perform and qualify.
What do you mean "show this synergy thing"? Have you ever heard of teamwork? Strategy? Tactics? Set-ups? Experience? Growth? Building off each other? Communication? Learning from past failures as a team? Capitalizing on teammates' plays? No? Those are all aspects of synergy. In case you didn't know, Valorant is a five-man team game. And it's not my only defense, you're just picking and choosing what you want to see and then still failing to prove those sections wrong. But yes, synergy is my main defense, because that's what Nadeshot emphasized in his video for why BabyJ and Ec1s were booted for. Also you saying that because you think my defense is stupid therefore yours makes sense is an Olympic-level leap in logic. You're just coping. Again, it's more than just "expecting players to perform and qualify" because teamwork matters. These players are performing together. And if they do not have enough experience playing together they will not play off each other efficiently. Relying on individual talent is extremely braindead and also goes against what Nadeshot said 100T kicked BabyJ and Ec1s for. By the way, you contradicted yourself again. This isn't a ranked game where anything goes.
and its also worked b4 by loaning tenz from c9. now you might be coming up with some shit its 2 players instead of one now.
You obviously did not read my post at all. And I have no clue how you did the math there at the end. And not in a good way. They added Tenz before VCT started. The competition back in that era of Valorant was much weaker, meaning individual talent could take one further (not that talent is a bad thing, of course, it's just that you need more than shooting ability). I'm pretty sure back then post plants were just coming into the meta. Your point here is completely irrelevant. Besides TenZ was added during very different circumstances, 100T by no means needed to kick BabyJ and Ec1s after what happened. And now that they added two players in the middle of VCT it's going to be even harder to adapt. Plus, jcStani and Bang are not TenZ.
stop rambling. If you want to argue with me, argue with me. Don't bring up irrelevant topics that I never talked about in my post. Don't blame me for what a community is doing. Here. Let me show you what you should've done instead.
I already assumed all this commotion is because of this thing " hypocritical and disrespectful either way."
And what about it. Nadeshot goes on and on about the importance of synergy. The team had two games that they lost, both teams they lost to had more experience and were very skilled teams. The hypocrisy is Nadeshot saying synergy is important but then defending his org that was not willing to provide sufficient time for that synergy to be built. Sure, sometimes things just don't click, but give them more than two official matches to figure that out. And don't tell me how you don't see the hypocrisy in his talking about a good 'culture' matching up with the actions taken.
Take it in the rational way instead of the unexpectedness catching you off and taking it in the negative way.
I am taking this rationally. And rationally I have come to the conclusion that 100T management is stupid.
What if they were not able to meet their expectations and i.e dominating their group,
What do you mean, "what if they were not able to meet their expectations", goals are great to have but you have to take necessary measures to ensure they happen. You have to be realistic as well. What is the likelihood of domination in a group against teams that have made it farther in the past and have more experience, such as Cloud9. You're also speculating, assuming what their expectations were. Additionally, you talk about not being able to meet expectations but then act like changing a massive chunk of the roster mid-VCT competition is a good choice that will lead them to "dominating their group". Maybe they'll win, LG and EG are weaker than C9 and Guard, but either way, the thought process is severely flawed.
If things would have gone like this is their any guarentee that they would have won other matches too?
No. That's a stupid take, there's never any complete guarantee that a team will win a match. It doesn't matter which team. That's especially stupid considering the group that 100T is in and the teams they're playing against. This point is irrelevant. That's arrogance, not confidence.
If these two things are not happening then u kick the root cause.
Two things. Speculation, you're assuming BabyJ and Ec1s were the root cause. "tHe RoStEr ChAnGe WaS nOt A rEsUlT oF pErFoRmAnCe." You're also speculating kicking them is the correct solution. Rationally speaking, if what Nadeshot wants is synergy, then not allowing for teams to gain official match experience together is stupid. Again, sometimes teams just don't click, but two official matches are not enough to determine that. Especially if the scrims were going great and what they said in the youtube video was true. And if you truly think that BabyJ and Ec1s were the root cause, you would still not support the change because they picked up two players that ultimately did not qualify for the tournament that 100T is playing in (no hate to jcStani and Bang, they're both cracked). What I'm getting at is if one of the things 100T is going for is mechanical skill, that's even more hypocritical since Nade wants "synergy". It's not smart to boot off nearly half of the new team because they didn't mesh perfectly immediately and 'dominate' C9 and Guard (again, I can't stress this enough, in the middle of VCT after two matches against two high-level teams favored to go far)
This clown coummunity either way were shitting on ec1s and babyj and now you lot are now grilling on 100T managment. Wtf is this two faced community first of all.
irrelevant and extreme generalization
And moreover this is not some friendly ranked game where you can do anything, Its all comepetiton and you dont want to be left behind
Exactly. This is not some friendly ranked game where anything goes. This is a game where teamwork matters. Adding two completely new players to the roster in the middle of a competition is not going to help the team's synergy. Especially when this is one of the most important competitions of the year. You're contradicting yourself. What 100T did is exactly what will get them left behind. It's not just hypocrisy at this point, it's just stupidity.
Moreover im 100% sure this community will anyways would have said to kick ec1s and babyj
again, completely irrelevant. Stop using what a select number of people did against me, who did not do that.
instead of keeping them and practising with them if they didn't qualify so doing it now would be better.
No. This is not some sort of friendly ranked game where you can do whatever you want.
The quantity in your post doesn't mean it's quality.
wrong reply
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Why are teams trying to use these comps? When are they going to learn that the payoff is not worth the cons that come with it? Sure it might work occasionally, but chances are it won't.
well... that's minus one braincell... We don't have many left to lose, be careful lol.
fr, trying to understand will only provide headaches.
makoidk
met them in a VCT watch party server. We don't ever watchparty but we vibe.
I don't think I ever had a gen.g flair, although I've thought about changing the flair occasionally to either C9 or Gen.G (VS new flair ugly asf, ain't no way I'm going back to that. And DWG is too small).
on paper
On paper is cool and all, but results are what matter. In this VCT (the competition where teams are expected to go all out and the competition that actually matters) V1 manhandled Knights (13-4, 13-2). Sentinels lost a map to them. Sentinels also lost a map to NRG. NRG lost to Optic. Optic lost to Rise. Rise lost to V1, not once, but twice. Not only did they lose, they lost badly. 13-6, 13-6, 13-4, 13-5. The Guard is looking insane as well. A 13-0 against Asuna and Ethan, regardless of the circumstances, is not easily attainable. It's not Sentinels being underrated, it's you disregarding V1 and Guard. Maybe it's because of personal bias, maybe because of V1's past and the Guard being new, maybe you didn't watch V1 and Guard play, maybe it's all of the above, but either way, Sentinels is not more favored than C9 to win a matchup between the two.
Also, the transferability argument (anyone can lose to anyone) is mainly set in tier two NA valorant. Hierarchies are clearer as you go higher up.
So yeah, on paper doesn't really matter. Relying on individual talent can only get you so far.
People aren't underrating Sentinels. They just aren't overrating them.
cloud9. Tbh I feel like Sentinels wouldn't even be second. They might lose to V1, Guard, and XSET before they lose to c9. Hell, with how V1 have been playing even C9 might lose to them if they aren't careful.
edit: I'm more excited for Sentinels vs Optic and Sentinels vs Rise (if Rise play well since they've been inconsistent recently).
i thought it said OP ED for a sec lmfao
oh so the, "babyJ and ec1s died for this" sort of braindead comments. I gotchu.
is there anyone really blaming jcStani and Bang? It's 100T being stupid, not them.
nice clip (also how'd you spawn with three downvotes, it's literally been a minute lmfao).
edit: four
Yes because dropping a massive chunk of the team after two losses against two very skilled teams and adding two completely new players in the middle of VCT will get 100T the results they want. And Nadeshot wants to talk about the importance of synergy and team culture. Pretty shitty culture considering what they did. It really doesn't matter how good the players they added are. It's hypocritical and disrespectful either way.
oh but I thought what they wanted was "synergy" and "culture".
what then, synergy? Culture? What kind of perfect synergy are they expecting with two games of experience. And what about that 100T youtube video lmfao. 100T is a walking L in terms of management.
100T management is a joke. Expecting "fast results" by switching out players in the middle of VCT? What a joke. They should expect a couple more 13-0s with critical thinking skills like those.
(I'm not attacking you btw, just blown away by how stupid management over there is. Riot's number of tournaments is dumb, I completely agree there).
oh yeah, it's a stupid decision for sure, especially in the middle of VCT.
I guess he fits the "culture".
I just spent a solid ten minutes writing a rant about how stupid this is, and then I realized it was a waste of my time.
I don't support 100T anymore even though I like the content creators and the players on the team.
All I can say is... wow. Just... wow. I hope 100T never wins another game. It would be funny to see what excuses they have next time. I'm disappointed (and irritated, seriously who the fuck makes these decisions??)
I wouldn't say Rise had a fluke run, I'd just say they're inconsistent as fuck.
It's not like either team is massively favored tbh.
I think Sen is middle of the pack tbh. I think if they went against V1, C9, and maybe XSet they'd actually lose. I wouldn't be surprised if the Guard can beat them as well. But I do agree they are above EG, LG, Knights, and NRG. Rise is inconsistent so I dunno about them. If they play well it'd be close. I haven't seen 100T play enough to make a judgment on that match-up.
I think Guard is more favored. They have a great foundation and have always been improving. 100T might catch up, but they're still new at the moment. But then again, who knows what'll happen.
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"now if you didn't have a long enough attention span to read my guide, then you're doing well. You'll fit in wonderfully. If you did read the whole thing, I'd suggest you leave and save what brain cells you have left before trembolona deletes them."
a mod should make a pinned post that says,
"if in need of a name change, ask in our discord."
I swear I see posts like these three times a day.
worldle is wordle but with the world thus being dubbed worldle.
There's a high chance of a TSM vs T1 rivalry growing, as it's likely that both will be competing in the same small competitions to prepare for VCT Quals.
you've wasted more than that if you're on this site I guarantee you
the pros of being stupid is that I don't react to anything
oh right, the shitty Crunchyroll adaptation where a few webtoons got their hundreds of chapters compressed into a few episodes. Well, it'll be better than an American Solo Leveling Live Action. If Warner Bros buy Solo Leveling I'm committing a war crime.
you have no idea how much I struggled typing those letters out too :(