Thx. Means a lot
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| Registered: | July 9, 2022 |
| Last post: | December 2, 2024 at 7:39 PM |
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As an eu fan, I don't really think we have room to talk considering we only had 1 decent team last yr
tarik himself has more viewers. wdym?
Hopefully. I'm tired of seeing the same 2 APAC teams every time
Wasn't PRX supposed to be playing DRX?
Why did Riot change it? I was lowkey excited to see a new APAC team play internationally
As a Riot Employee, he is already serving his punishment by playing in eu
Yea. Even though I was the reason they won, they thought I was a lil too biased towards EU
BiliBili 2-0
Unfortunately, I'm not their analyst anymore
Yea. He realized he was playing in eu and just dominated everyone
Ur source lied to u. From now on, I will be ur source of info
Consider anything I tell u abt the pro scene to be 100% factual
Wtf did I just watch? This guy literally launched a NASA rocket into the sky
i think 100t is prolly gonna have to take a 2 month break before that happens
Keith if it's aura. I thought u were talking abt skill
mibr vs furia has already started
sen vs 100t is in 2 hrs
Havoc was vod reviewing eu players which is why he played so bad
Now that Furia's coach put an end to it, he will be in form
yea but yay is much more replacable than fns is
a lot of emerging players have insane aim but saadhak is the only americas igl at the same lvl
fenis can find a new yay but it will be much harder for yay to find another fenis
Wait. Why aren't u counting yay then?
He was good in both the 2021 & 2022 seasons.
2021 - Envy literally made it to the grand finals of Berlin where they lost to Gambit. Yay was also the highest rated player at the event.
2022 - Optic, 2 finals, 1 trophy, self-explanatory
Ethan. Chronicle is better fragging-wise but not when it comes to setting up his team
It's not his fault. He has been classically conditioned to perform well for foot rubs from FNS
No foot rubs = No incentive to perform
He was once considered the best in the world. After the chamber meta ended, he fell off hard
It happens to all the players who were "once good". Same thing happened with tenz too though he seems to be doing good now
As an eu fan, I disagree. Games like SEN vs LOUD have showed us how talented the Americas are. Meanwhile, FNC will just breeze through our league like usual bc the rest of our teams all belong in tier 2
SEN 2-1
FURIA 2-0
Quit acting like ur taking the highground.
U've been hating on NA since day 1. Ur just like us but unfunny abt it at the same time
0/8
that would be fnc's record if they played in the americas league
listen, i understand that our region is pathetic rn but it's ok
as eu fans, we gotta calm down
hopefully players like aspas & demon1 will retire within the next decade so we can finally accomplish smtng
aspas & alfajer r reasonable replacements. Then u tried to sneak in d0rke, s0mething, nats, and s0ygetsu 😭😭😭
If Boostio is in form & SEN actually end up losing, im done. at that point, the org is just cursed
Champs - The final tourney of the yr where teams unveil all their strats
R we forgetting that Boaster & Crew faced LOUD twice at this event & got put down both times?
I also like EU but I need to stay realistic
Best IGL
Saadhak
Best Dualist
Demon1
Best Sentinel
Less
Best Recon initiator
I'll give u this one
Best support player
Ethan sets up his team way better
(1) - From what I saw from pros who were discussing igls on their streams, about 75% said fns, 15% said saadhak, and the remaining 10% split between shaz & steel were mostly vlr users. Idk abt the SA scene though. They were prolly like 80-20 for Saadhak & Fns
(4) - I can agree that it's servicable but he is doing significantly better on sova so there has to be some issue. The best sova comment caught me off guard which is why we went off topic. Crashies was better last yr but I'd say sacy is still top 3 though
(10) - 100T was expected to be 2nd worst NA team after EG. I think SEN should be that barrier & not LEV
(1) - I think ur confusing the yrs. Shaz, Steel & FNS were competing for that spot in 21. Steel had been dropped from 100T in 21 & played tier 2 for the entity of 22. In 22, NA was relatively unanimous abt Fenis
(4) - True but if ur looking at it like that, Crashies would be the best. Sacy had the edge in 22 but in 23, Crashies played many more games internationally. Sacy only played 1 where they lost to FNC. In addition, Crashies was tied with nzr for the best iniator stats in the Americas league as seen here: https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1189/champions-tour-2023-americas-league
At Tokyo, he was the 3rd highest rated sova after rb & c0m.
When NRG & SEN faced, Crashies performed well on sova. Meanwhile, Zekken was the one on sova and not sacy as seen here: https://www.vlr.gg/183781/nrg-esports-vs-sentinels-champions-tour-2023-americas-league-w2
(7) - I will check them out for sure
(10) - I agree maps win games but if ur 1 round away from losing to 100T, there is no way they can be placed in the loud/nrg tier as of now
Yea. Governor was actually pretty good that game
(1) By the end of 22, it was maybe 90% for FNS & 10% for Shaz from NA. The percent that said Shaz were just clutching at straws from 21. Idk who the 3rd one ur talking abt is though
(4) If it was the beginning of 23, I would possibly agree. However, I think Sacy & even Crashies both took a backseat to players like Leo, C0m, and Cauanzin this yr.
(7) I didn't watch the BR scene back then so imma just agree with u.
(10) This I disagree with. They won 2 close maps against 100T but got stomped 13-3 on split. I don't think that can be excused to "playing down to their competition"
With Leaf & Trent, G2 has the biggest upset potential against the top teams. If they lose to KRU & EG, I will personally disband them
(1) - I feel like it was split tbh. I think most SA fans considered it to be Saadhak but outside of SA, ppl were calling FNS the best. Either way, it doesn't matter bc Saadhak holds the title now.
(4) I think calling him the #1 sova in the world since hiko retired is a stretch. He was one of the best in 2022 but in 23, his stocks definitely fell.
(7) - I can't rlly debate this one bc I nvr watched Gamelanders Blue. I only started watching him when he was on Vivo Keyd
(10) - Loud & NRG I agree. But if 1 round had gone differently, LEV would have lost to 100T. They are also in the 2nd tier imo
My rebuttals to ur rebuttals:
(1) - Master's 1 2022 was literally when Optic won Iceland. It was abt 70-30 in favor of FNS until 2023 where LOUD performed much better than NRG
(4) - His all time rating with sova is 1.28. On skye, his all time rating is only 0.96. Clearly, there is a big gap
(7) - I disagree bc he was good but he wasn't solo-carrying Furia last season. Dgzin was good & Khalil had some solid performances
(10) - When I said top teams, I was referring to the group of LOUD, NRG, SEN, LEV. Those were the 4 big teams who ppl expected to take it all. LEV looked a lil shaky ngl but Imma give them time
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